Prince RECOIL string feedback??

[vasquez90]

interesting blog thread on the Prince Recoil string below... i have been hearing the same thing here - hard to compare to other strings, really is different from anything..s o it might be tough to compare,curious to hear, from those who have spent some QT with it...

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http://ggtennis.wordpress.com/2008/04/30/prince-recoil-the-real-deal/

Prince Recoil - The “Real” Deal
April 30, 2008

Okay…our blog readers may have noted a twinge of doubt and sarcasm in our previous post concerning the new Prince Recoil string. We were skeptics, especially given the price.

However, we now have additional experience with this string, more notably, our customers have experience with this string and it has impressed us beyond our wildest expectations. We are skeptics no more.

The recoil bandwagon is firing up. Why? Well there are several reasons. The first is because Recoil delivers in a big way on the promise of little to no string movement. If string movement drives you or your customers batty, this string could very well be the answer. The technology is more than marketing bravado, it is effective and delivers.

Second and most importantly, this string holds tension better than we EVER expected. One of our initial users just returned for a restringing. The string was in the racquet for a total of 55 days. The customer played 33 matches and estimates having at least 98 hours of playtime. At the time of stringing (note, we used regular tension, did not drop 10% as Prince recommends) the DT reading was 44. After 55 days and nearly 100 hours the DT reading was 38 which represents a mind-boggling tension loss of just 13.6%!!!

Durability seems to be surpassing our expectations as well. We had read accounts of the string breaking rapidly, but this conflicts with our current observations. The racquet with 98 hours shows insignificant signs of fraying. Very minor.

Our new take is that this string may actually be worth the price. (Did I really just write that???…hard to believe.)

 

[nickb]

Interesting...I have a set...going to string it up right now!

Nick

 

[bronco_mba]

Nice find. This is the first real assessment of Recoil on the boards that I've seen. I've personally been staying away due to the price.

Nickb, let us know how your play test goes.

 

[supermario343]

Interesting...I have a set...going to string it up right now!

Nick

are you doing a full setup or it or a hybrid nick? id be interested in knowing as well

 

[kingdaddy41788]

it seems to my like hybriding this particular string might take away a lot of it's benefits...

 

[nickb]

are you doing a full setup or it or a hybrid nick? id be interested in knowing as well

Full setup.

Will let you guys know.

Nick

 

[zane]

I've got a friend who uses Recoil in his Ozone Pro Tour and I got to hit with it for about five minutes a few days ago. It had a good crisp feel and I noticed that there was absolutely no movement (which is unusual for me.) I don't think it produced quite as much spin as some polys will (I have used SPPP and Recoil didn't spin near as much) but it does have a great feel on a flat ball. This guy has been using the racquet since the beginning of March and it still felt nice and tight to me so I would say that tension maintenance is pretty good. Like another poster said (even though I think it was NBMJ) there are a few other strings that currently use the teflon coating to prevent movement - I read that Tom Avery's High Voltage string (a set of which came in the mail today with a "Pro Supex" label) has some type of coating similar to that of Recoil.

* please remember that my opinion is coming from what I noticed in just five minutes of hitting

 

[Chauvalito]

The player mentioned in the first post must have hit very flat.

In my limited experience with the string it broke quite quickly.

IMO it is not wirth the price given that you can get similar performance from polys or even multi which are currently available at half the price.

 

[ClubHoUno]

I will buy this string and hybrid it with red X-one Biphase - this will be my "wet setup" stringed in the two rackets I only use, when I have TE trouble and when ever I play just before the rain starts or just after the rain = wet tennis balls, which is bad for natural gut.

 

[WChiang]

Full setup.

Will let you guys know.

Nick

I have been wondering about this string ever since it hit the market. Nick, I would be interested in hearing your feedback on this. The thoughts of someone that isn't repping a string brand would be helpful.

 

[tenniscore]

Thanks for bringing this back WChiang...I was excited to read peoples thoughts and it turned into a verbal slugfest...anyway, i have talked to a lot of players who have given it a stamp of approval and say,like the blog entry, it is the "real deal" - sorry Klip guy...definitely excited to string some up

 

[klementine]

NickB? Interested in knowing how you felt about the recoil. Is you're control string Pro Supex Blue Gear 1.25 @54, I think comparing this string to something like a tecnifibre TGV (w/ 40%-45% PU) would be fair, or anything but a full poly. Im not quite sure what the composition is of this string, other than the teflon coating? Anyway please get back.

 

[nickb]

NickB? Interested in knowing how you felt about the recoil. Is you're control string Pro Supex Blue Gear 1.25 @54, I think comparing this string to something like a tecnifibre TGV (w/ 40%-45% PU) would be fair, or anything but a full poly. Im not quite sure what the composition is of this string, other than the teflon coating? Anyway please get back.

Well it is designed to compare to a poly but better on the arm so I think comparing it to a poly is best really.

Not used it yet...will post back when I do.

Nikc

 

[klementine]

If you have the package of string, does it have the % of materials? Whats in these things anyway?

 

[nickb]

If you have the package of string, does it have the % of materials? Whats in these things anyway?

Dont think it says anything on the pack...TW says:

"Solid Core with a filament wrap. Gore(TM) MicroWeb technology extends string life, and provides a unique, low friction recoil for string realignment."

Nick

 

[klementine]

Solid core? You're absolutely correct, comparison with a solid poly would be best. Although, I must say, that is vague. Were they easy to string? What tension did you settle on?

 

[nickb]

Solid core? You're absolutely correct, comparison with a solid poly would be best. Although, I must say, that is vague. Were they easy to string? What tension did you settle on?

I was going to string it up but never got the chance...I plan to use it saturday in either my fischers or a speedport Black.

Nicl

 

[Wondertoy]

I got some free Recoil demos from Prince and will try it this weekend.

 

[Wondertoy]

Nice strings which don't move. Has good power and looks like it would have good durability. Less feel, spin and comfort than my usual PolyStar Energy. Rather expensive. For this price, I'd rather play with natural gut.

 

[kfactor/all/the/WAY!]

really pricey string!

 

[Deleted member 25923]

this is poly, no?

 

[krchawaii]

It's not Poly, but I hear it's best compared to a soft poly.
I had to get my N95 re-strung today, and I was going to go with the Recoil, but I looked at the price and I was like...ahh I shouldn't because the N95 isn't my main. Maybe I'll try it on my Nblade.
Anyway,
Here is a picture of the string taken from the Prince website.

 

[klementine]

I was going to string it up but never got the chance...I plan to use it saturday in either my fischers or a speedport Black.

Nicl

NickB? Any word on your play test with the recoil?

 

[Deleted member 25923]

This stuff I heard is as expensive as some natty gut.

 

[Zhou]

This stuff I heard is as expensive as some natty gut.

You can look it up... TW sells it for $24.99.

I don't think I will ever try it.

 

[Deleted member 25923]

You can look it up... TW sells it for $24.99.

I don't think I will ever try it.

Yea, i read that fact on the feedback. 24.99 is a crapload for one set of strings.

 

[samster]

Yea, i read that fact on the feedback. 24.99 is a crapload for one set of strings.

But you don't understand, it has the latest technology!

 

[samster]

It was a tough choice today shopping at TW: a set of natural gut or Recoil. Guess what I picked?

 

[J011yroger]

It was a tough choice today shopping at TW: a set of natural gut or Recoil. Guess what I picked?

A racquet from the closeout section?

J

 

[samster]

A racquet from the closeout section?

J

No, but I did think about doing that.

 

[CyberInferno]

it seems to my like hybriding this particular string might take away a lot of it's benefits...

I completely agree. It seems like you'd have to do the full set to enjoy the magic.

I was going to string it up but never got the chance...I plan to use it saturday in either my fischers or a speedport Black.

Nicl

Just out of curiosity, are you going to string it as recommended on the package? I believe it says they recommend you lower tension by 10%.

 

[chrisplchs]

talked to a few Prince pros who tried the string... common consensus = durability is no good.

 

[eric892]

I think the string is really effective

 

[bagung]

I think the string is really effective

effective in what way...?

 

[pow]

What I've heard about this string so far is that it combines the characteristics of many other strings...
It plays like a soft poly but without the durability and with the price of cheaper natural gut.
Say it ain't so!

 

[heathenrider]

i thought somebody was going to reply with the prognosis of the recoil in the sp black?

 

[duso]

I've strung with it, and used it. There is nothing great about this string. In fact I would rank it below ordinary. Little feel, little pop. To me its just a string. Pacific Poly Soft is a better choioce, especially for the dollars.

 

[vasquez90]

could not disagree more with duso - then again, I have no idea what type of player he/she is (especially as someone recommeding that Pacific string!) - Just a string? That type of in-depth analysis says a lot...

But you dont know what type of player I am or anyone is so demo yourslef - or ask someone who you know really knows string...dont listen to us - my guess is those who know will see the light! i am not playing natural gut and this is completely worth it - it is MUCH more durable, is not losing tension for me has a better feel, and delivers on the string recoil promise - i am loving it, but i am just one person.

 

[Wondertoy]

I've got a couple of sets if you want to trade email pw86@cornell.com

 

[klementine]

Really strange string in my opinion. Had the day off today, and the prince ozone pro tour that I ordered from tw for my borther-in-laws birthday came in. So being the good brother in-law, I play tested the string and racquet for him. The racquet plays great, it was strung with prince recoil @ 58lbs., the string doesnt play that great. Being able to seperate the racquet from string performance was easy for me, as I have played (never owned) with prince's 03 line.

I played for about two hours and the string started to fray, but not the usual fraying that Iam accustomed to, it seemed jagged, 'plastic' like. It does play like a poly, in the sense that power can be 'dialed' in, not erratic like some multis. A really 'deadened' dampened feel. But it did not keep up with the durability of polys (2hrs and some considerable fraying). All this said (in comparison to a poly), it does not vibrate at all, or move at all, really easy on the arm.
But Iwas not impressed with the feel of this string, comparable to babolat x-cel when strung at low tensions, although this string was @58lbs. Spin potential was average, power potential- average.

I would only recommend this string to someone who was looking for a soft, poly- like (without the durability) string, who did not hit alot of kickers and topspin forehands/backhands. I also felt that this string would perform best at over 60lbs.

I cut the string out after my play-test, it was just too frayed to give as a present. I prefer a crisp, more feedback oriented string like nrg2, nxt tour, x-one,Gamma Professional 16 ,Kirschbaum comp 17,Ashaway Crossfire 17 or any gut. I have pictures of the string if anyone is interested in viewing them, I can post the fraying and the strange 'jelly-bean' composition of this string, it has a soilid-core and a noticeable outer covering.

 

[CyberInferno]

Really strange string in my opinion. Had the day off today, and the prince ozone pro tour that I ordered from tw for my borther-in-laws birthday came in. So being the good brother in-law, I play tested the string and racquet for him. The racquet plays great, it was strung with prince recoil @ 58lbs., the string doesnt play that great. Being able to seperate the racquet from string performance was easy for me, as I have played (never owned) with prince's 03 line.

I played for about two hours and the string started to fray, but not the usual fraying that Iam accustomed to, it seemed jagged, 'plastic' like. It does play like a poly, in the sense that power can be 'dialed' in, not erratic like some multis. A really 'deadened' dampened feel. But it did not keep up with the durability of polys (2hrs and some considerable fraying). All this said (in comparison to a poly), it does not vibrate at all, or move at all, really easy on the arm.
But Iwas not impressed with the feel of this string, comparable to babolat x-cel when strung at low tensions, although this string was @58lbs. Spin potential was average, power potential- average.

I would only recommend this string to someone who was looking for a soft, poly- like (without the durability) string, who did not hit alot of kickers and topspin forehands/backhands. I also felt that this string would perform best at over 60lbs.

I cut the string out after my play-test, it was just too frayed to give as a present. I prefer a crisp, more feedback oriented string like nrg2, nxt tour, x-one,Gamma Professional 16 ,Kirschbaum comp 17,Ashaway Crossfire 17 or any gut. I have pictures of the string if anyone is interested in viewing them, I can post the fraying and the strange 'jelly-bean' composition of this string, it has a soilid-core and a noticeable outer covering.

I've seen the odd fraying when re-stringing some of our member's rackets. Because it doesn't move around much, it just kind of eats away at certain spots on the strings. They'll look perfect everywhere except a few spots where it looks like it could snap at any moment. At least that's what I've seen. Most of the members like it, but they're 3.5/4.0 players whom I would not put a lot of faith in their opinions on the string. Not that I think there's any thing wrong with that, but they certainly have not extensively playtested strings and I doubt they could name a poly-based string if I asked them.

 

[duso]

Former Big 10 player, stringer with 37 yrs. of experience. I think I know my way around. I'm not impressed with this string.

 

[Teyko]

I heard the string was kind of gimmicky...is this true?

 

[notujoo]

dannng why is it soo expenisive?

 

[samster]

Should I break the bank and try this string? Generally, I like natural gut the best, poly the least.

 

[FreshStew]

Would anyone prefer these over their current setup?

 

[tailofdog]

Great quality string! but, for the price i would go with Klip Legend gut

 

[ClubHoUno]

Great quality string! but, for the price i would go with Klip Legend gut

What if you need a great string for wet play - just before and after a rain delay on clay ?

 

[Applesauceman]

For me, Recoil lived up to it's claim...the strings don't move (just like a poly). The feel was good for about 3 matches (approx. 5 hours) and then it felt dead. I recently tried natural gut for the first time, and let me tell you, there's no comparison. If I'm going to spend $25 on string, I'm going natural gut.

 

[samster]

For me, Recoil lived up to it's claim...the strings don't move (just like a poly). The feel was good for about 3 matches (approx. 5 hours) and then it felt dead. I recently tried natural gut for the first time, and let me tell you, there's no comparison. If I'm going to spend $25 on string, I'm going natural gut.

Agree, you can get a set of natural gut for a buck more for better playability.