Rating the Athletic Ability of the Big Four

[Nadalgaenger]

Let's imagine a series of separate measures to rate the Big Four. Let's also assume the Big Four are in their absolute prime.

How would they stack up in the following?

100 M dash
5 K run
Marathon
Bench Press
Chin Up Competition
Arm Wrestling Competition

Here's how I would rate them:
100 M dash: 1) Murray 2) Nadal 3) Djokovic 4) Fed
5 K run 1) Djokovic 2) Federer 3) Murray 4 ) Nadal
Marathon 1) Djokovic 2) Federer 3) Murray 4) Nadal (knees)
Bench Press 1) Murray 2) Nadal 3) Fed 4) Djokovic
Chin Ups 1) Murray 2) Nadal 3) Djokovic 4) Fed
Arm Wrestling 1) Nadal 2) Murray 3) Fed 4) Djokovic

 

[user]

Here's how I would rate them:
100 M dash: 1) Murray 2) Nadal 3) Djokovic 4) Fed
5 K run 1) Djokovic 2) Federer 3) Murray 4 ) Nadal
Marathon 1) Djokovic 2) Federer 3) Murray 4) Nadal (knees)
Bench Press 1) Murray 2) Nadal 3) Fed 4) Djokovic
Chin Ups 1) Murray 2) Djokovic 3) Fed 4) Nadal
Arm Wrestling 1) Nadal 2) Murray 3) Fed 4) Djokovic

Sounds reasonable.

 

[metsman]

100M dash: Murray, Nadal, Djoker, Fed
5K run: Djoker, Fed, nadal, murray
Marathon, same
Bench: Murray, Federer(bigger chest), Nadal, Djoker
Chin Ups: Djoker, Nadal, Murray, Federer
Arm Wrestling, left arm it would go Nadal, Murray, Djoker, Fed
Right arm would go Murray, Nadal, Fed, Djoker.

Solid thread.

 

[Krish872007]

Sounds reasonable.

How about the 400 IM though? That would be a really interesting race. Thats one race in which I'd fancy my own chances against them

 

[mattosgrant]

I actually think the physically strongest of the 4 would definitely be between Murray and Nadal. I have no doubt those two guys are above Federer and Djokovic in sheer physical strength, despite that they probably hit the ball less hard overall. In sheer track speed all 4 are exceptionally fast, Federer would probably be last amazingly enough (even at his athletic peak, assuming the other 3 also are). In sheer endurance? Well pretty obviously that would be Djokovic and Nadal ahead of the other two at their peak, even though all 4 are quite good. I think in a jumping activity Federer would probably be best, but Murray would also be extremely good. Djokovic is by far the most flexible.

 

[fps]

Not sure about this. I'd be interested in 400m and 60m more than 100, but Fed trains using wrestling and other alternative styles, and in person he is an imposing figure. He looks a lot stronger in person, and Nadal looks smaller than he does on screen. I'd take Fed for the arm wrestling, that shoulder of his hitting single handers must be like iron.

60m I'd bet on Nadal, 100m Murray, 400m Murray, 5k Nadal again followed by Fed, marathon, errr, Novak or Fed probably.

Bench press Murray, chin ups Murray, partly because I know he built these into his training regime, and I'm not so sure about the other guys.

 

[Krish872007]

Ok 400IM is tough
I guess it'll be close between Djokovic and Federer for 1st place, with Muzz in 3rd and Rafa 4th.

 

[Nadalgaenger]

100M dash: Murray, Nadal, Djoker, Fed
5K run: Djoker, Fed, Murray Nadal
Marathon, same
Bench: Murray, Federer(bigger chest), Nadal, Djoker
Chin Ups: Djoker, Nadal, Murray, Federer
Arm Wrestling, left arm it would go Nadal, Murray, Djoker, Fed
Right arm would go Murray, Nadal, Fed, Djoker.

Solid thread.

Good point on the different arms in arm wrestling. Fed would naturally struggle against Djoker with the left arm since Djoker has hit that 2-hander so long!

 

[Nadalgaenger]

What if we threw the following players into the mix: Laver, Borg, Sampras, Agassi?

Here's how I'd call it:
100 M Dash 1. Murray 2) Nadal 3) Borg 4) Djokovic 5) Laver 6) Fed 7) Agassi 8) Sampras
5 K Run 1) Djokovic 2) Federer 3) Borg 4) Murray 5) Laver 6) Nadal 7) Agassi 8) Sampras
Marathon 1) Djokovic 2) Federer 3) Borg 4) Murray 5) Agassi 6) Laver 7) Nadal 8) Sampras
Bench 1) Murray 2) Sampras 3) Nadal 4) Agassi 5) Laver 6) Djokovic 7) Federer 8) Borg
Chin Ups: 1) Murray 2) Djokovic 3) Sampras 4) Borg 5) Nadal 6) Laver 7) Agassi 8) Fed
Arm Wrestling: 1) Murray 2) Sampras 3) Nadal 4) Agassi 5) Laver 6) Borg 7) Djokovic 8) Fed

 

[Deleted member 743561]

Let's imagine a series of separate measures to rate the Big Four. Let's also assume the Big Four are in their absolute prime.

How would they stack up in the following?

100 M dash
5 K run
Marathon
Bench Press
Chin Up Competition
Arm Wrestling Competition

Here's how I would rate them:
100 M dash: 1) Murray 2) Nadal 3) Djokovic 4) Fed
5 K run 1) Djokovic 2) Federer 3) Murray 4 ) Nadal
Marathon 1) Djokovic 2) Federer 3) Murray 4) Nadal (knees)
Bench Press 1) Murray 2) Nadal 3) Fed 4) Djokovic
Chin Ups 1) Murray 2) Nadal 3) Djokovic 4) Fed
Arm Wrestling 1) Nadal 2) Murray 3) Fed 4) Djokovic

I like these alternative measures of the top guys, but come on... six categories, and Fed wins none? Last in a couple, and second-to-last in a couple? What about considering some things like:

• balance
• anticipation
• tennis IQ
• reactions
• leaping ability
• accuracy

I'd give peak Fed the nod in just about all of these.

I would definitely like to see a skills competition with things like target practice, shuttle run, etc.

 

[hobl4]

Peak for peak

100 M dash: 1) Nadal 2) Federer 3) Djokovic 4) Murray
5 K run: 1) Djokovic 2) Federer 3) Nadal 4) Murray
Marathon: 1) Djokovic 2) Federer 3) Nadal 4) Murray
Bench Press: 1) Murray 2) Nadal 3) Federer 4) Djokovic
Chin Up Competition: 1) Nadal 2) Murray 3) Djokovic 4) Federer
Arm Wrestling Competition: 1) Murray 2) Nadal 3) Djokovic 4) Federer
Slams: 1) Federer 2) Nadal 3) Djokovic 4) Murray

 

[LinePainter]

Slams: 1) Federer 2) Nadal 3) Djokovic 4) Murray

LOL

 

[mattosgrant]

What if we threw the following players into the mix: Laver, Borg, Sampras, Agassi?

Here's how I'd call it:
100 M Dash 1. Murray 2) Nadal 3) Borg 4) Djokovic 5) Laver 6) Fed 7) Agassi 8) Sampras
5 K Run 1) Djokovic 2) Federer 3) Borg 4) Murray 5) Laver 6) Nadal 7) Agassi 8) Sampras
Marathon 1) Djokovic 2) Federer 3) Borg 4) Murray 5) Agassi 6) Laver 7) Nadal 8) Sampras
Bench 1) Murray 2) Sampras 3) Nadal 4) Agassi 5) Laver 6) Djokovic 7) Federer 8) Borg
Chin Ups: 1) Murray 2) Djokovic 3) Sampras 4) Borg 5) Nadal 6) Laver 7) Agassi 8) Fed
Arm Wrestling: 1) Murray 2) Sampras 3) Nadal 4) Agassi 5) Laver 6) Borg 7) Djokovic 8) Fed

Federer beating Borg or even Nadal in a 5k run or marathon is truly great joke.

Agassi beating Sampras in a 100 metre dash is an even better joke.

 

[Nadalgaenger]

I like these alternative measures of the top guys, but come on... six categories, and Fed wins none? Last in a couple, and second-to-last in a couple? What about considering some things like:

• balance
• anticipation
• tennis IQ
• reactions
• leaping ability
• accuracy

I'd give peak Fed the nod in just about all of these.

I would definitely like to see a skills competition with things like target practice, shuttle run, etc.

Federer couldn't even beat Serena and Roddick in this accuracy drill!

I'd say those other areas would be interesting too. I don't think Fed would win out necessarily in any. He is less balanced than Djokovic, has less anticipation than Nadal, and is a tennis moron when it comes to playing Nadal! His leaping ability is not as good as Murray and his accuracy is less than Djokovic's.

BUT he is the GOAT for other reasons, proving that raw athleticism does not translate into tennis dominance.

 

[Nadalgaenger]

Federer beating Borg or even Nadal in a 5k run or marathon is truly great joke.

Agassi beating Sampras in a 100 metre dash is an even better joke.

Why do you underestimate Fed so greatly here?

Federer in his prime would be a smart runner. His weight distribution is much better than Nadal's for distance running and his body is far less injury prone. I think Nadal has more of a sprinter's build.

Borg would be good in both, but I think Fed and Djokovic would beat him in a 5 K.

Marathon running is so hard to predict. So much of it involves mentality and pain tolerance.

 

[Deleted member 743561]

Federer couldn't even beat Serena and Roddick in this accuracy drill!

I'd say those other areas would be interesting too. I don't think Fed would win out necessarily in any. He is less balanced than Djokovic, has less anticipation than Nadal, and is a tennis moron when it comes to playing Nadal! His leaping ability is not as good as Murray and his accuracy is less than Djokovic's.

BUT he is the GOAT for other reasons, proving that raw athleticism does not translate into tennis dominance.

 

[mattosgrant]

Why do you underestimate Fed so greatly here?

Federer in his prime would be a smart runner. His weight distribution is much better than Nadal's for distance running and his body is far less injury prone. I think Nadal has more of a sprinter's build.

Borg would be good in both, but I think Fed and Djokovic would beat him in a 5 K.

Marathon running is so hard to predict. So much of it involves mentality and pain tolerance.

Borg had superhuman endurance, and an amazing engine. Combine that with being naturally faster than Federer, and you think he would lose to Federer over any running distance, LOL!

Nadal you have more valid points on, but his endurance and stamina in his prime was also unbelievable and better than pretty much anyone on tour. Combine that with being so naturally fast and athletic and I don't see Federer overcoming him at any running distance, short or long.

 

[Nadalgaenger]

Borg had superhuman endurance, and an amazing engine. Combine that with being naturally faster than Federer, and you think he would lose to Federer over any running distance, LOL!

Nadal you have more valid points on, but his endurance and stamina in his prime was also unbelievable and better than pretty much anyone on tour. Combine that with being so naturally fast and athletic and I don't see Federer overcoming him at any running distance, short or long.

Basically marathon running requires a very different skill set than tennis. I know this since I just ran my first a few days ago.

Tennis is about short, controlled sprints and increasingly in the modern game, superior cardiovascular fitness aids players in getting their heartrates back down after an intense Djokodal style rally.

In Borg's day, the rallies were far less intense. Borg likely had a clear edge, and that could be why he was so great on the ultra slow clay of those days. I have heard that his resting pulse was in the 30s, but then again, we can only make educated guesses about he, Fed, or anyone else could do over the course of a marathon.

I once saw a clip of Borg sprinting against some other top athletes. I think he gets smoked by Wayne Gretzky! I will try to find it!

Go to 5:20 in this video

 

[Krish872007]

If Federer is to win some categories, include some other measures like 1km cycling or 400IM (I keep harping on about this one!) - I can definitely see him winning a cycling race based on his leg forms.

 

[Sysyphus]

fedr woud win ping pong, badminton, ballet dancing, modern jazz dancing, figure skating (both singles and pair skating with Dimitrov), synchronised swimming.

 

[Nadalgaenger]

Basically marathon running requires a very different skill set than tennis. I know this since I just ran my first a few days ago.

Tennis is about short, controlled sprints and increasingly in the modern game, superior cardiovascular fitness aids players in getting their heartrates back down after an intense Djokodal style rally.

In Borg's day, the rallies were far less intense. Borg likely had a clear edge, and that could be why he was so great on the ultra slow clay of those days. I have heard that his resting pulse was in the 30s, but then again, we can only make educated guesses about he, Fed, or anyone else could do over the course of a marathon.

I once saw a clip of Borg sprinting against some other top athletes. I think he gets smoked by Wayne Gretzky! I will try to find it!

Go to 5:20 in this video

Of course as you will see, Borg runs barefoot!

 

[Nadalgaenger]

If Federer is to win some categories, include some other measures like 1km cycling or 400IM (I keep harping on about this one!) - I can definitely see him winning a cycling race based on his leg forms.

I think Borg or Federer would be strongest on a bike. Nadal and Sampras would be terrible.

 

[Nadalgaenger]

Peak for peak

100 M dash: 1) Nadal 2) Federer 3) Djokovic 4) Murray
5 K run: 1) Djokovic 2) Federer 3) Nadal 4) Murray
Marathon: 1) Djokovic 2) Federer 3) Nadal 4) Murray
Bench Press: 1) Murray 2) Nadal 3) Federer 4) Djokovic
Chin Up Competition: 1) Nadal 2) Murray 3) Djokovic 4) Federer
Arm Wrestling Competition: 1) Murray 2) Nadal 3) Djokovic 4) Federer
Slams: 1) Federer 2) Nadal 3) Djokovic 4) Murray

You are really underestimating Murray on the track. The guy incorporates a lot of sprint workouts and has a respectable time in several track areas.

Among the women, Steffi Graf would easily win. I bet she could hold her own with some of the men here. Wasn't she a noted Track and Field athlete in Germany or something?

 

[fps]

Ok 400IM is tough
I guess it'll be close between Djokovic and Federer for 1st place, with Muzz in 3rd and Rafa 4th.

Except Murray's training regime in the past has involved 400m after 400m with minimal rest, so he'll have done a lot of training around it. I wonder what the others do though, perhaps similar, perhaps not.

 

[metsman]

Federer beating Borg or even Nadal in a 5k run or marathon is truly great joke.

Agassi beating Sampras in a 100 metre dash is an even better joke.

federer could beat Nadal in longer distance I have the feeling his slow twitch muscle capacity might be greater.

 

[Krish872007]

Except Murray's training regime in the past has involved 400m after 400m with minimal rest, so he'll have done a lot of training around it. I wonder what the others do though, perhaps similar, perhaps not.

Oh, I meant 400 Individual Medley (IM - so swimming, not running) - I really don't know how much water training these guys do, so I'm going purely off my assessment of their tennis technique and assuming it translates into their technique underwater.
Technique's everything - these 4 guys are probably all fitter and stronger than me, but I'd trounce them in a swim for instance

 

[metsman]

Borg had superhuman endurance, and an amazing engine. Combine that with being naturally faster than Federer, and you think he would lose to Federer over any running distance, LOL!

Nadal you have more valid points on, but his endurance and stamina in his prime was also unbelievable and better than pretty much anyone on tour. Combine that with being so naturally fast and athletic and I don't see Federer overcoming him at any running distance, short or long.

eh no one had more stamina than Fed at his peak. See 05 Miami.

 

[The Fedfather]

Federer couldn't even beat Serena and Roddick in this accuracy drill!

I'd say those other areas would be interesting too. I don't think Fed would win out necessarily in any. He is less balanced than Djokovic, has less anticipation than Nadal, and is a tennis moron when it comes to playing Nadal! His leaping ability is not as good as Murray and his accuracy is less than Djokovic's.

BUT he is the GOAT for other reasons, proving that raw athleticism does not translate into tennis dominance.

Less balanced than Djokovic? That's interesting. I don't know how many times I've seen Djokovic losing his footing, often even falling. OTOH, Federer's movement is so good it seems like he's flying (some commentators on SkySports called him Peter Pan). A tennis moron when playing Nadal? What exactly does that mean? Accuracy less than Djokovic's? Federer's serve when it's on is renowned for its precision, no? I can't say the same about Djokovic's.

 

[Sysyphus]

federer could beat Nadal in longer distance I have the feeling his slow twitch muscle capacity might be greater.

The way I see it, Fed is the one who leans the most towards fast twitch in his disposition of these guys. He's the best at the explosive shots, generating power in backwards jumping smashes, or quick snappy shot with minimal swing and so on. Many tend to tone down Fed's athleticism, but in many of these respects he outperforms the other guys. He has also said he hates stuff like jogging.
Nadal, despite his appearance, is slightly more geared up for endurance and endurant strength (repeating his big swings all day long, repeating the rabbit-like sprints all day).

Very hard to say either way as tennis so largely consists of sport-specific skills, so it's hard to say how they would translate to more general athletic skills. For instance it's not given that the best movers in tennis would be the best at sprinting a race in a straight line and so on.

Just my three cents.

 

[Nadalgaenger]

The way I see it, Fed is the one who leans the most towards fast twitch in his disposition of these guys. He's the best at the explosive shots, generating power in backwards jumping smashes, or quick snappy shot with minimal swing and so on. Many tend to tone down Fed's athleticism, but in many of these respects he outperforms the other guys. He has also said he hates stuff like jogging.
Nadal, despite his appearance, is slightly more geared up for endurance and endurant strength (repeating his big swings all day long, repeating the rabbit-like sprints all day).

Very hard to say either way as tennis so largely consists of sport-specific skills, so it's hard to say how they would translate to more general athletic skills. For instance it's not given that the best movers in tennis would be the best at sprinting a race in a straight line and so on.

Just my three cents.

A guy like Ferrer would be a beast in a marathon!

 

[metsman]

The way I see it, Fed is the one who leans the most towards fast twitch in his disposition of these guys. He's the best at the explosive shots, generating power in backwards jumping smashes, or quick snappy shot with minimal swing and so on. Many tend to tone down Fed's athleticism, but in many of these respects he outperforms the other guys. He has also said he hates stuff like jogging.
Nadal, despite his appearance, is slightly more geared up for endurance and endurant strength (repeating his big swings all day long, repeating the rabbit-like sprints all day).

Very hard to say either way as tennis so largely consists of sport-specific skills, so it's hard to say how they would translate to more general athletic skills. For instance it's not given that the best movers in tennis would be the best at sprinting a race in a straight line and so on.

Just my three cents.

makes sense but Fed's stamina is, or was, so awesome. I feel like Nadal doesnt really have a long distance body type either. You make a good point with fast twitch movements in regards to their strokes, but in terms of running though Nadal has better fast twich. Federer's anticipation is better so that bridges some of the gap but in terms of top speed and first step speed Nadal is a beast.

 

[Deleted member 307496]

I think Murray is the most athletic member of the Big 4.

 

[Purplemonster]

Hot dog eating competition :

Nalbandian>(Federer+Murray+Djokovic+Nadal)

 

[mavsman149]

I would definitely like to see a skills competition with things like target practice, shuttle run, etc.

I would love this! Kinda like how the NBA has an All-Star Game and the Skills and Rookie Challenges, I would love it if they added these events at the WTF Finals, since that basically is tennis' All-Star Game (although it's actually important).

 

[Aceldama]

What if we threw the following players into the mix: Laver, Borg, Sampras, Agassi?

Here's how I'd call it:
100 M Dash 1. Murray 2) Nadal 3) Borg 4) Djokovic 5) Laver 6) Fed 7) Agassi 8) Sampras
5 K Run 1) Djokovic 2) Federer 3) Borg 4) Murray 5) Laver 6) Nadal 7) Agassi 8) Sampras
Marathon 1) Djokovic 2) Federer 3) Borg 4) Murray 5) Agassi 6) Laver 7) Nadal 8) Sampras
Bench 1) Murray 2) Sampras 3) Nadal 4) Agassi 5) Laver 6) Djokovic 7) Federer 8) Borg
Chin Ups: 1) Murray 2) Djokovic 3) Sampras 4) Borg 5) Nadal 6) Laver 7) Agassi 8) Fed
Arm Wrestling: 1) Murray 2) Sampras 3) Nadal 4) Agassi 5) Laver 6) Borg 7) Djokovic 8) Fed

I like this thread but I think you're wrong about Agassi's strength. He trained with Gil Reyes and could supposedly bench over 300lbs.

 

[Deleted member 716271]

I like this thread but I think you're wrong about Agassi's strength. He trained with Gil Reyes and could supposedly bench over 300lbs.

I'd move Sampras behind him, but the other 2 not sure. I saw that int he book, but could be a bit exaggerated. a 1RM of around 300 is high for a tennis player, but not crazy, I'd guess Murray and Nadal would be around there. I can do around that as a 1RM and I'm 6'1, 176.

 

[VexlanderPrime]

100 M dash - Rafa >>>> Djoker/Fed (?)
5 K run - Djoker>Fed>>Rafa
Marathon - Djoker>Fed>Rafa (too much mass)
Bench Press - Fed>Rafa>Djoker (But all would be pathetic).
Chin Up Competition - Rafa>>>>>>Fed/Djoker
Arm Wrestling Competition - Rafa>Fed>Djoker

 

[Colin]

Women's gymnastics:
Balance beam: Fed, Djokovic, Murray, Nadal
Floor: Fed, Djokovic, Nadal, Murray
Uneven bars: Fed, Murray, Djokovic, Nadal
Vault: Fed, Nadal, Djokovic, Murray

Rogi is the Nadia Comaneci of tennis. Nole may one day be the Larisa Latynina, but nobody will surpass that special ineffable quality of a Fed or a Nadia.

 

[Deleted member 716271]

Women's gymnastics:
Balance beam: Fed, Djokovic, Murray, Nadal
Floor: Fed, Djokovic, Nadal, Murray
Uneven bars: Fed, Murray, Djokovic, Nadal
Vault: Fed, Nadal, Djokovic, Murray

Rogi is the Nadia Comaneci of tennis. Nole may one day be the Larisa Latynina, but nobody will surpass that special ineffable quality of a Fed or a Nadia.

Nole is more of a gymnast.

If you'd like to artifically create metrics where Federer may come out on top. I'd suggest ballerina dancing

 

[ArcspacE]

There was never a Big 4 and never will be

 

[Colin]

Nole is more of a gymnast.

If you'd like to artifically create metrics where Federer may come out on top. I'd suggest ballerina dancing

Admittedly, I could see Nole taking gold working that pommel horse with intimate familiarity like a "tennis player of the evening" because of his sensualist, vaguely articulated bedroom pleasures, but elasticity will only get you so far. Ask any of the talented individuals who post startlingly personal videos of themselves online stretching to impossibly self-satisfying lengths. But in the end, it's an experience that's cold and isolating. So it goes with the Djoker.

This is women's gymnastics, where a ballerina's skill, beauty and art aren't discounted for the sake of male- and hetero-pejorative norms, but warmly embraced. Nole would look clumsy and pedestrian on the beam when glimpsed with the same eyes that bear witness to Fed's ethereal grace.

 

[Jaitock1991]

Seeing that Rafa is right-handed, I strongly doubt that he'd have much of a chance to win against any of the other guys

 

[tennisfan2015]

Let's imagine a series of separate measures to rate the Big Four. Let's also assume the Big Four are in their absolute prime.
Here's how I would rate them:
100 M dash: 1) Murray 2) Nadal 3) Djokovic 4) Fed
5 K run 1) Djokovic 2) Federer 3) Murray 4 ) Nadal
Marathon 1) Djokovic 2) Federer 3) Murray 4) Nadal (knees)
Bench Press 1) Murray 2) Nadal 3) Fed 4) Djokovic
Chin Ups 1) Murray 2) Nadal 3) Djokovic 4) Fed
Arm Wrestling 1) Nadal 2) Murray 3) Fed 4) Djokovic

I disagree with some and will tell you why.

100 M dash: 1) Murray 2) Nadal 3) Djokovic 4) Fed

The fastest over 100m would be Nadal not Murray. Nadal is the most 'compact' power runner while Murray would not be able to hold his top-end speed as long as Nadal could. I have coached 100m for more than 20 years and when I see them run Murray is not a sprint runner type but you are right I would place him ahead of Djokovic and Fed.


5 K run 1) Djokovic 2) Federer 3) Murray 4 ) Nadal

Correct. And this just proves my call for Nadal over 100m.


Marathon 1) Djokovic 2) Federer 3) Murray 4) Nadal (knees)

Correct.

Bench Press 1) Murray 2) Nadal 3) Fed 4) Djokovic

Again Nadal as he has shorter arms than Murray and needs to travel less therefore he could benchpress more than Murray. Djokovic could benchpress more than Fed. Keep them in the exact order as for 100m

Chin Ups 1) Murray 2) Nadal 3) Djokovic 4) Fed

Nadal again. Murray is heavier and has longer arms. No way he would outperform Nadal.

Arm Wrestling 1) Nadal 2) Murray 3) Fed 4) Djokovic

Agreed with Nadal but here I would put Djokovis 2nd Murray 3rd and Fed 4th.

 

[tennisfan2015]

Seeing that Rafa is right-handed, I strongly doubt that he'd have much of a chance to win against any of the other guys

Well I agree with you there but if we were to stick with a preferred arm - Nadal

 

[tennisfan2015]

There was never a Big 4 and never will be

Absolutely.

 

[jga111]

Sounds reasonable.

How about the 400 IM though? That would be a really interesting race. Thats one race in which I'd fancy my own chances against them

Murray can do 400M in just over 52 seconds.

 

[tennisfan2015]

Sounds reasonable.

How about the 400 IM though? That would be a really interesting race. Thats one race in which I'd fancy my own chances against them

Djokovic, Fed, Murray, Nadal.

 

[tennisfan2015]

Federer beating Borg or even Nadal in a 5k run or marathon is truly great joke.

Agassi beating Sampras in a 100 metre dash is an even better joke.

Sampras over 100m would be a joke. Sampras over 400m would allow me to have a nap in between and wake up fresh before he would finish the race.

 

[tennisfan2015]

Murray can do 400M in just over 52 seconds.

I have coached a national champion over 400m who ran 52 seconds when she was 13 years of age.

 

[tennisfan2015]

You are really underestimating Murray on the track. The guy incorporates a lot of sprint workouts and has a respectable time in several track areas.

Among the women, Steffi Graf would easily win. I bet she could hold her own with some of the men here. Wasn't she a noted Track and Field athlete in Germany or something?

Murray is not a runner no matter how many 10-20m accelerations he does. I have seen him running he is not coordinated and his legs are a shocker.