Starting Clamp Help

BurghKing

Rookie
Lately I have been having some issues when I pull the first main string and the clamp fray's the string. I have cleaned the clamps, adjusted the tightness and everything I can think of. I have not had this problem before in my many years of stringing. I have heard about using a starting clamp to assist the fixed clamp. How would I go about setting it up to help prevent some of the fraying?
 

leog

Rookie
you grip the string right after the fixed clamp with the starting clamp, to "back it up" so to speak. Since the sc can't be pulled through the fc, the string won't move. I always do my first pull this way--I don't like pulling against a clamp and nothing else.
 

BurghKing

Rookie
Do you leave the starting clamp hanging below the strings, or do you hold it above them? I have a feeling this may be a ridiculous question, but I have never encounterd this issue before in 15 + years, so I want to make sure I do it right. Thanks.
 

Mike Cottrill

Hall of Fame
Do you leave the starting clamp hanging below the strings, or do you hold it above them? I have a feeling this may be a ridiculous question, but I have never encounterd this issue before in 15 + years, so I want to make sure I do it right. Thanks.


Here is one method not using the machine clamp at all. Watch those grommets..
Does this help?

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rightylefty

New User
Use a business card cut in half, and then folded in half. Place the folded card in the clamp and then place the sring in the card. The string will be protected from whatever in the clamp that is causing the fraying. This simple trick should help correct your problem.
 

livthemoment

New User
could someone explain how to use a starting clamp to pull the first mains? in a floating and fixed clamp system.

I see that the floating clamps usually hold two mains to start and the center main never gets directly tensioned. Thus the first two pulls equalize with the center main. How do you get around this?

Thanks, I am just purchasing my first stringer, and have been reading up on the uses of starting clamps, but I cannot figure how to properly directly tension all of the mains.
 

LttlElvis

Professional
You don't use a starting clamp for the mains with floating clamps.

For a system with fixed clamp, once you clamp the 1st main, clamp the starting clamp right next to the 1st fixed clamp to secure from string slippage. The starting clamp is essentially "piggy backing" the 1st clamp.

I just got a new machine, and I don't need the starting clamp right now because the brand new clamps are holding the strings very securely. On my previous machine, I always needed the starting clamp. This just told me I either needed to clean and adjust my old clamps, or it was just time to get new clamps.
 

BurghKing

Rookie
Thanks for the tips! I will give things a try in the morning and see what happens...it can't be worse than my luck the last few times. Thanks guys!
 

livthemoment

New User
You don't use a starting clamp for the mains with floating clamps.

For a system with fixed clamp, once you clamp the 1st main, clamp the starting clamp right next to the 1st fixed clamp to secure from string slippage. The starting clamp is essentially "piggy backing" the 1st clamp.

I just got a new machine, and I don't need the starting clamp right now because the brand new clamps are holding the strings very securely. On my previous machine, I always needed the starting clamp. This just told me I either needed to clean and adjust my old clamps, or it was just time to get new clamps.

I know you do not need a starting clamp, but the way mains are tensioned using a floating clamp, the center main is not tensioned directly. The center main gets a cummulative tension of the mains on either side, which of course lowers the tension of the first 3 mains pulled.
I have read of ways to add the starting clamp on the first main and get a direct tension, but I did not understand how to do it?
I was reluctant to start a thread when this one was right here.
You were not answering my question. I hope I clarified enough.
 

BurghKing

Rookie
Use a business card cut in half, and then folded in half. Place the folded card in the clamp and then place the sring in the card. The string will be protected from whatever in the clamp that is causing the fraying. This simple trick should help correct your problem.

Thank you for the advice! I tried this method and had great results. At least one of business cards is going to good use! Thanks again.
 

livthemoment

New User
Sorry, I still do not understand your question. Maybe look at the Eagnas site and it has some pics on how to use a starting clamp and you can modify it for your needs.

http://www.eagnas.com/maxgen1/pp600.html

That site makes sense. If I was to use the starting clamp and pulled the first main, would you clamp the tensioned main with the relaxed main with the floating clamp. Then, string the next main and tension and clamp.

Would two mains tensioned be enough to then go back and tension the main with the starting clamp on it?
 

Gaines Hillix

Hall of Fame
That site makes sense. If I was to use the starting clamp and pulled the first main, would you clamp the tensioned main with the relaxed main with the floating clamp. Then, string the next main and tension and clamp.

Would two mains tensioned be enough to then go back and tension the main with the starting clamp on it?

I don't think you're going to eliminate this by using a starting clamp. I recall some past discussions about this, but can't remember the specifics about the methods used to get around this. It seems like Klippermate uses what they call a "starting pin" to help with this. You might look at their website or give them a call. Also, string forum.net may have some instructional material related to this. Here is a link to a thread on stringforum that describes the starting pin and the Klippermate part #;

http://www.stringforum.net/board/showthread.php?t=239

Here's another thread on the same subject;

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/archive/index.php/t-65015.html
 
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