Still blows my mind - Years Reaching All 4 Grand Slam finals - Federer - 3, Borg/Lendl/Sampras/Nadal/Djokovic - 1

[McEnroeisanartist]

Still blows my mind - Years Reaching All 4 Grand Slam finals -

Federer - 3,
Connors/Vilas/Borg/Lendl/Wilander/Courier/Sampras/Agassi/Nadal/Djokovic/Murray combined - 1

 

[thrust]

Laver- 1, winning all 4 in 69

 

[CHillTennis]

Laver- 1, winning all 4 in 69

Also 1962.

 

[buscemi]

Still blows my mind - Years Reaching All 4 Grand Slam finals -

Federer - 3,
Connors/Vilas/Borg/Lendl/Wilander/Courier/Sampras/Agassi/Nadal/Djokovic/Murray combined - 1

True, but some big caveats there. E.g.,

-Connors being banned from the French in 1974 (and not playing the French in 1975);​

-Borg not playing the Australian in 1978, 1980, and 1981;​

-McEnroe not playing the Australian in 1984; and​

-there not being an Australian Open for Lendl to play in 1986.​

 

[KG1965]

Still blows my mind - Years Reaching All 4 Grand Slam finals -

Federer - 3,
Connors/Vilas/Borg/Lendl/Wilander/Courier/Sampras/Agassi/Nadal/Djokovic/Murray combined - 1

???

 

[Mark-Touch]

Still blows my mind - Years Reaching All 4 Grand Slam finals -

Federer - 3,
Connors/Vilas/Borg/Lendl/Wilander/Courier/Sampras/Agassi/Nadal/Djokovic/Murray combined - 1

If you truly did combine their slams, they would have more than 1 !!!

 

[MeatTornado]

True, but some big caveats there. E.g.,

-Connors being banned from the French in 1974 (and not playing the French in 1975);​

-Borg not playing the Australian in 1978, 1980, and 1981;​

-McEnroe not playing the Australian in 1984; and​

-there not being an Australian Open for Lendl to play in 1986.​

I always feel bad for past players like McEnroe or Navratilova when they talk about how if they'd known their whole careers would get boiled down to their slam count, then they would've flown to Australia a lot more.

 

[HipRotation]

I always feel bad for past players like McEnroe or Navratilova when they talk about how if they'd known their whole careers would get boiled down to their slam count, then they would've flown to Australia a lot more.

It doesn't help that outside of when Australian players were dominate the Australian open just was not even in the same class of quality as the other "slams" until it's move to Melbourne. Even the French in the early 70s was questionable especially on the women's side.

The only constant in the game for the highest level of competition is The All England Club Championship and the US Championship, which have proved throughout their histories with being the kingmakers for #1 ranked players. Looking at their championship winners list is reading the history of the best tennis players.

 

[Federev]

Even crazier -

At one stretch Federer made the finals of 18 out of 19 consecutive slams. (Winning the majority of course.)

That’s basically almost 5 years of Fed being in every single slam final.

That is insane dominance.

 

[Third Serve]

I always feel bad for past players like McEnroe or Navratilova when they talk about how if they'd known their whole careers would get boiled down to their slam count, then they would've flown to Australia a lot more.

Connors definitely gets screwed over the most in this sort of situation. Besides only playing at the AO twice, he was also banned from RG and didn’t play for five years of his prime.

 

[thrust]

Also 1962.

True, but that was before the open era when the top male players: Gonzalez, Rosewall, Hoad, Trabert, Sedgman and Segura were on the pro tour

 

[DSH]

Connors, Borg and to a lesser extent Lendl, should not be on this conversation.

 

[PeoplesChamp]

Complete dominance unlike anyone before or after

 

[Musterrific]

Connors definitely gets screwed over the most in this sort of situation. Besides only playing at the AO twice, he was also banned from RG and didn’t play for five years of his prime.

It hardly matters - I doubt Connors would have gotten past Borg at the French even in his prime. His best chance was probably 82-83, after Borg was gone and before Lendl became the dominant player on clay, but by then he was already old himself.

What was the year Borg didn't play the French - 1976? That's Connors' missed golden opportunity.

 

[Phoenix1983]

???

Are you doing a question mark because they never made all 4 finals during their career?

 

[Third Serve]

It hardly matters - I doubt Connors would have gotten past Borg at the French even in his prime. His best chance was probably 82-83, after Borg was gone and before Lendl became the dominant player on clay, but by then he was already old himself.

What was the year Borg didn't play the French - 1976? That's Connors' missed golden opportunity.

Connors had 1976 and 1977 when Borg was out. I’m not saying he would be dominant or something, but just winning one RG title would be big for his career.

 

[KG1965]

Are you doing a question mark because they never made all 4 finals during their career?

Yes, but maybe I didn't understand the meaning of the thread.

 

[Lew II]

Djokovic reached 18/23 finals from 2010 USO to 2016 RG losing before the final to Federer, Federer, Nadal, Wawrinka, Nishikori.

 

[MichaelNadal]

"Back in my days, you had to go outside to use the outhouse, hunt your own meat, and Federer was the man"

 

[buscemi]

It hardly matters - I doubt Connors would have gotten past Borg at the French even in his prime. His best chance was probably 82-83, after Borg was gone and before Lendl became the dominant player on clay, but by then he was already old himself.

What was the year Borg didn't play the French - 1976? That's Connors' missed golden opportunity.

Borg didn't play in 1977. In 1976, he was beaten by Panatta in the QF. In 1974, he was 17 and had to survive 3 five setters. Plus. we're just talking about making finals, not winning them.

 

[Federev]

Djokovic reached 18/23 finals from 2010 USO to 2016 RG losing before the final to Federer, Federer, Nadal, Wawrinka, Nishikori.

That’s nice

Maybe some day he’ll equal Federer in that department.

He’s really good at tennis!

 

[Lew II]

That’s nice

Maybe some day he’ll equal Federer in that department.

He’s really good at tennis!

His streak is maybe even more impressive considering how many times he played Big4 in semis/quarterfinals.

2010 USO Federer SF
2011 AO Federer SF
2011 RG Federer SF
2011 UO Federer SF
2012 AO Murray SF
2012 RG Federer SF
2012 WI Federer SF
2013 RG Nadal SF
2014 UO Murray QF
2015 RG Nadal QF
2015 RG Murray SF
2016 AO Federer SF

 

[Lew II]

2010 USO - 2016 RG Djokovic semifinals played against ATGs:

2010 USO Federer
2011 AO Federer
2011 RG Federer
2011 UO Federer
2012 AO Murray
2012 RG Federer
2012 WI Federer
2013 RG Nadal
2015 RG Murray
2016 AO Federer

2005 WI - 2010 AO Federer semifinals played against ATGs:

2008 AO Djokovic
2008 UO Djokovic
2009 UO Djokovic

Lots of cakewalks to the final for Fed compared to Djokovic.

 

[Phoenix1983]

Djokovic reached 18/23 finals from 2010 USO to 2016 RG losing before the final to Federer, Federer, Nadal, Wawrinka, Nishikori.

Federer reached 18/19 finals from 2005 W to 2010 AO, losing before the final to Novak Djokovic.

 

[Lew II]

Federer reached 18/19 finals from 2005 W to 2010 AO, losing before the final to Novak Djokovic.

Check post #23.

 

[Phoenix1983]

2010 USO - 2016 RG Djokovic semifinals played against ATGs:

2010 USO Federer
2011 AO Federer
2011 RG Federer
2011 UO Federer
2012 AO Murray
2012 RG Federer
2012 WI Federer
2013 RG Nadal
2015 RG Murray
2016 AO Federer

2005 WI - 2010 AO Federer semifinals played against ATGs:

2008 AO Djokovic
2008 UO Djokovic
2009 UO Djokovic

Lots of cakewalks to the final for Fed compared to Djokovic.

Murray's not an ATG, as I've told you many times.

Also you can't judge draws just on the matches against 3 other players.

 

[Lew II]

Murray's not an ATG, as I've told you many times.

Also you can't judge draws just on the matches against 3 other players.

Do you think it's harder to win a semifinal against a player who won 11 semifinals in his career or to win it against players who won 4 or 5 semifinals in his career (like Roddick or Hewitt)?

 

[MeatTornado]

Yes, yes, we all know Novak would've won 35 majors in 06-09 if he had Federer's draws.

 

[Third Serve]

Yes, yes, we all know Novak would've won 35 majors in 06-09 if he had Federer's draws.

but there weren’t even 35 majors in 06-09

 

[Antonio Puente]

Djokovic reached 18/23 finals from 2010 USO to 2016 RG losing before the final to Federer, Federer, Nadal, Wawrinka, Nishikori.

Djoker went 11-7 in finals in the 23 slam finals streak you concocted, as opposed to Fed going 12-6 in the 19 slam streak mentioned earlier. Winning kind of matters, Lew. The average person would probably give the nod to 12 out of 19 over 11 out of 23. Of course, as is the case with many threads on TTW, it's hard to determine where the conversation is even going.

 

[Hitman]

Still blows my mind - Years Reaching All 4 Grand Slam finals -

Federer - 3,
Connors/Vilas/Borg/Lendl/Wilander/Courier/Sampras/Agassi/Nadal/Djokovic/Murray combined - 1

This was why I called him Mr Grand Slam. 18 out of 19 slam finals in a row....

 

[TMF]

Djokovic reached 18/23 finals from 2010 USO to 2016 RG losing before the final to Federer, Federer, Nadal, Wawrinka, Nishikori.

Showing your insecurity again.

 

[ollinger]

Still blows my mind - Years Reaching All 4 Grand Slam finals

What blows MY mind is that the OP continues to robotically post this drivel like some sort of highly trained seal

 

[Lew II]

Djoker went 11-7 in finals in the 23 slam finals streak you concocted, as opposed to Fed going 12-6 in the 19 slam streak mentioned earlier. Winning kind of matters, Lew. The average person would probably give the nod to 12 out of 19 over 11 out of 23. Of course, as is the case with many threads on TTW, it's hard to determine where the conversation is even going.

Slam finals/semis against ATGs:

2005 WI - 2010 AO Federer --> 14/37 (37.8%)
2010 UO - 2016 RG Djokovic --> 22/34 (64.7%)

 

[Lew II]

Showing your insecurity again.

OP is insecure first then.

 

[Antonio Puente]

Slam finals/semis against ATGs:

2005 WI - 2010 AO Federer --> 14/37 (37.8%)
2010 UO - 2016 RG Djokovic --> 22/34 (64.7%)

You're reaching a little in this thread, Lew. It's not really going anywhere.

 

[Musterrific]

Connors had 1976 and 1977 when Borg was out. I’m not saying he would be dominant or something, but just winning one RG title would be big for his career.

I think Connors was banned from the French during those years, or he definitely would have had a great chance to win it.

 

[GabeT]

but there weren’t even 35 majors in 06-09

They would have created them just for Novak!

 

[buscemi]

I think Connors was banned from the French during those years, or he definitely would have had a great chance to win it.

I think he was just banned in 1974 and then boycotted from 1975-1978 based on the initial ban.

 

[Musterrific]

Borg didn't play in 1977. In 1976, he was beaten by Panatta in the QF. In 1974, he was 17 and had to survive 3 five setters. Plus. we're just talking about making finals, not winning them.

I just checked - Connors' best shot was likely 1983. He was the top seed, but somehow got routined in straights in the quarters by an absolute MUG whose career-best ranking was 29 and never won a title. He would have faced Noah in the semis, who he owned. In the final he would have played Wilander who he had a terrible record against, but they didn't play each other before 1984, when Jimmy was in decline. What could have been.

 

[Musterrific]

I think he was just banned in 1974 and then boycotted from 1975-1978 based on the initial ban.

Oh I see, well then his myopic spite likely cost him a RG title. Dummy only has himself to blame.

 

[GabeT]

Djoker went 11-7 in finals in the 23 slam finals streak you concocted, as opposed to Fed going 12-6 in the 19 slam streak mentioned earlier. Winning kind of matters, Lew. The average person would probably give the nod to 12 out of 19 over 11 out of 23. Of course, as is the case with many threads on TTW, it's hard to determine where the conversation is even going.

But if we are talking about a “reaching finals” récord or streak then winning shouldn’t matter. That’s a different record. After all, Fed reached 10 slam finals in a row which is more than Novak’s 6 in a row. But Novak won 4 slams in a row, more than Fed did.

 

[buscemi]

I just checked - Connors' best shot was likely 1983. He was the top seed, but somehow got routined in straights by an absolute MUG who's career best ranking was 29 and never won a title. He would have faced Noah in the semis, who he owned. In the final he would have played Wilander who he had a terrible record against, but they didn't play each other before 1984, when Jimmy was in decline.

I'd go with the 1976 French, if we're assuming that Panatta still beats Borg. The finalists were Panatta and Solomon. Connors was 8-2 against Solomon and 6-1 against Panatta.

 

[Slowtwitcher]

BTW you can't be an ATG if you have a two-handed backhand. FACT.

 

[Musterrific]

BTW you can't be an ATG if you have a two-handed backhand. FACT.

I'm a two-handed backhand hater myself, but there are plenty of examples...

 

[Antonio Puente]

But if we are talking about a “reaching finals” récord or streak then winning shouldn’t matter. That’s a different record. After all, Fed reached 10 slam finals in a row which is more than Novak’s 6 in a row. But Novak won 4 slams in a row, more than Fed did.

It's a pointless conversation. Lew shoehorned his Djoker finals streak into the discussion, which isn't equal anyway, but in comparing finals streaks, yes, I would give the nod to the player who won more of them in fewer tournaments.

Back to the OP... Personally, I think this is one of the better distinctions Fed has. Why? You can't really cry about a weak era. Fed did it again, he made all four finals in 2009, after Nadal was beating him everywhere and after Djoker had beaten him at the AO.

 

[roysid]

Finals are good but nothing matter like wins.
3 slam win in a year
Fed -3,
Dhoner -2
Nadal -1
Thats what we should talk about

 

[Zebrev]

Thats why they call him "grand slam man".

 

[victorcruz]

Just goat-like things, thas all

 

[BeatlesFan]

I always feel bad for past players like McEnroe or Navratilova when they talk about how if they'd known their whole careers would get boiled down to their slam count, then they would've flown to Australia a lot more.

Mac's always said (and wrote about it in his two books) that he wasn't going down to Australia there over Christmas no matter what. Consider that Brian Teacher and Johan Kriek won it three times 1980-83, then Wilander won it on grass the next two years. These were absolute peak years for Mac, he could have conceivably won every AO between 1980-84!