Techniques for stinging nat gut as main with rough poly cross

Crisp

Professional
Just interested in any techniques on how to string nat gut mains with a rough poly cross. I always find this very difficult as the rough poly is very difficult to string without roughing up the nat gut. Any ideas?
 

Crisp

Professional
Come on guys, some of you pride yourself on your stringing knowledge, I'm just after a little help here.
 

Rusty669

Semi-Pro
Just interested in any techniques on how to string nat gut mains with a rough poly cross. I always find this very difficult as the rough poly is very difficult to string without roughing up the nat gut. Any ideas?

The main technique applied is definately patience!Don't rush the crosses, or your string job won't last very long. Very carefully weave the crosses over and under the gut mains.
In addition, if you pre-weave your next cross,make sure to arch it upwards.
I hope you know what I mean by this: Do not pull the cross through in a straight line, but arch it to the area where no crosses have been done yet(i.e. if you are stringing the crosses correctly from the top of the racket downwards you want to arch the string into the direction of the grip).This will create less friction on the mains, as the part of the racket where no crosses have been strung yet is obviously a lot softer than the area where crosses have already been strung.

Hope that helps!
 

GlenK

Professional
I would never use nat gut with a rough textured cross. That may be why not many replies. I look for a smaller smooth co-poly.
 

jk175d

Semi-Pro
I would never use nat gut with a rough textured cross. That may be why not many replies. I look for a smaller smooth co-poly.

Yup, not only will the gut last a lot longer, but the gut/poly hybrid simply performs better with a smooth poly.
 

TimothyO

Hall of Fame
Yup, not only will the gut last a lot longer, but the gut/poly hybrid simply performs better with a smooth poly.

This^^^

I've tried many different poly crosses with gut mains. Shaped can work, smooth is better, rough isn't a good idea, at least for durability when you're paying for your own strings.
 

jim e

Legend
When installing the cross strings, make sure to not only weave one ahead, also pull most of the slack one ahead as well, along with fanning the cross string pulling it across.This will help reduce friction and wear along with taking it a little slower as well, justr don't be in a rush.
 

Crisp

Professional
Thanks for your replies guys. I'm sure lots of people use rough as a cross. Eg federer. Personally I am trying flex infinity cp+ as my cross string with vs as my main. Usually I do this the other way around with no problem and feels better than any other combo I have ever tried, but after reading drakulies priority 1 article I decided to give it a try the other way around to see how it plays.
 

sundaypunch

Hall of Fame
Just watched the YouTube vid. This does seem like a good way to eliminate the friction, thanks for taking the time to link it. Not sure if it will be available in Aus... We only get all the crummy stuff haha.

There is usually some arguing in the threads discussing this tool. Some of this is due to the fact that it is advertised to help making stringing quicker. This usually offends all the people here that have spent many years perfecting their traditional technique.

If you string gut, you can ignore the speed argument - it is worth the price just for the reduced friction. It is also a simple but brilliant design.
 

Steve Huff

G.O.A.T.
Actually, I think the worst part is tying off poly to the gut mains. It's not hard though. I use a "deadman's" knot when tying off to natural gut.
 

Lambsscroll

Hall of Fame
"Rough" just means textured. ALU Power Rough is unique in that its texture doesn't saw through the gut. It actually allows the gut to slide more easily. When stringing the cross, fan (move the string up and down rapidly) the cross string as you pull it through the mains.
 
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Muppet

Legend
One of the nice things about using a slick poly for a cross with gut mains is that the gut can deflect and snap back along the poly easily, giving more spin to the ball. Conveniently, it makes stringing the crosses far easier.
 

Crisp

Professional
Thanks for the responses guys very much appreciated. I already use the fan technique and the one ahead, was just interested if there was something I wasn't doing. I have not heard of this bead technique that was mentioned. String way tool seems like it could be really good specifically for stringing gut and reducing the friction. Anything that reduces the friction is a plus right?
 

UCSF2012

Hall of Fame
There's a tool that pushes every other main away (half up, half down), so that the crosses don't rub against the mains as it's being pulled.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
I"ve strung maybe 100 VS gut rackets, but never one mix...
In the beginning, I was asked to string with a teflon spray on the mains. Later, after careful fan technique, it mattered little.
 
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