The day has arrived: Young winst 1st match at ATP level

Zaragoza

Banned
New Haven- 1st round: Young d. Delic 4-6 6-3 6-4.
It took him 12 matches to win the 1st but congrats. Davydenko is next :D
 

anointedone

Banned
Thanks for posting this encouraging news. It was bound to happen sooner rather then later. He had been making strides based on his performance in the Satelite events. Good things, relatively speaking of course, are starting to happen for him.

I still dont think he will ever be the superstar he was hyped/projected to be at 15, but more and more he is looking like he could find a home and belong on the ATP tour.
 

tguru

Rookie
I have never seen Delic but I watched him from row seven. His baseline game was not assertive and was quite up and down. Overall, he looked to lack confidence today. Maybe he felt the pressure of giving up the first W. Young showed some nice racquet head speed off the forehand but got overpowered by many shots to his backhand.
 

J-man

Hall of Fame
It is an ATP win for Young. it's a big deal. Half the people Young loses to on the pro level are nobody's. So to beat a nobody is a big deal
 

OrangeOne

Legend
Yup being a former NCAA All-American and ranked in the Top 75 sure is a nobody. Nice job calling someone a nobody from your arm-chair computer.

Good call, very good call. If we ever have a TW-Team-Put-Someone-in-their-Place-competition here, I want you on my team! :)
 

Fedace

Banned
New Haven- 1st round: Young d. Delic 4-6 6-3 6-4.
It took him 12 matches to win the 1st but congrats. Davydenko is next :D

POOR Delic, this is not the kind of distinction he needed. Delic is future pete sampras and scary good player trying to get over his mental breakdowns.
 
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Alex132

Guest
lol Davy is gonna smoke his ass back to Florida....so Young can thing about playing top players next time.
 

OrangeOne

Legend
Why do people seem to enjoy watching this youthful player lose as he develops?

ENVY is the only thing I can put it down to. People are so envious of a promising junior with sponsors and a great career ahead of him, that's what it must be.
 

tennissavy

Hall of Fame
Yup being a former NCAA All-American and ranked in the Top 75 sure is a nobody. Nice job calling someone a nobody from your arm-chair computer.

Have you ever seen him play??? He has a decent serve and nothing else. He is nobody. Being a good US player by collegiate standards means nothing on the pro tour. Look at Laura Granville- one of the most successful US collegiate players but is nothing more than draw filler in the WTA. Delic is no better than Granville. I've done a great job of judging talent. I said a long time ago- watch for Djokovic and Jankovic. I've also seen plenty of players who don't have enough ability to challenge for big titles- Rusedski, Granville, Henman, Rosset....... It's like you take it personally that I criticize a player and that is absurd.
 
Why do people seem to enjoy watching this youthful player lose as he develops?

ENVY is the only thing I can put it down to. People are so envious of a promising junior with sponsors and a great career ahead of him, that's what it must be.
Or maybe most of us are just annoyed because he's being pushed down our throats by the USTA, even JMac as the "next big thing" when he's anything but.
 

OrangeOne

Legend
Or maybe most of us are just annoyed because he's being pushed down our throats by the USTA, even JMac as the "next big thing" when he's anything but.

I don't know, 'pushed down throats' to me sounds little strong. I live in Hewitt-land, and every second week he's on magazines, on stories on TV, in the papers, especially now that he's half of an 'aussie celebrity couple' and all. But equally, I can always change the channel / not pick up the magazine / turn the page whenever I choose.

I still feel 90% of the 'anti-Young' crowd are just jealous of his potential at his age...
 

Fedace

Banned
Young vs Davydenko, is this going to be a featured match on ESPN2 on wed night?? they may show the woman's match fearing this match would be a blow out ?
 

Fedace

Banned
I wonder if Davydenko will take the money again. The payout would be amazing.

Davydenko can just tank this match again. Since Young is playing so well, well enough to beat Delic, he can just say he beat Delic and he just beat me too. Davy lost to Delic earlier in the year so he can just say Young was too good for me today.;)
 

tennissavy

Hall of Fame
Young vs Davydenko, is this going to be a featured match on ESPN2 on wed night?? they may show the woman's match fearing this match would be a blow out ?

I think espn has taken tennis out of the programming tonight. On espn's website, there is no more tennis listed at 1030pm! Just yesterday there was!
 

coloskier

Legend
Young's win yesterday can be explained with a great quote from the movie "Remo Williams"

"Sometimes everyone is blessed with luck" Chiun
 

David L

Hall of Fame
Or maybe most of us are just annoyed because he's being pushed down our throats by the USTA, even JMac as the "next big thing" when he's anything but.
How would that be Young's fault? It's not like he's in a position to control what people say about him.
 
young seems to be a good returner he is breaking serve and getting bps points the problem is that his 2nd swrves seems to be very attackable and he doent seem to be serving at a high percentage if he can get it up to about 65% consisently i think he can start to win some matches.
 

Chauvalito

Hall of Fame
I was quite impressed with Donald young, he was hitting 120 mph serves and staying in the rallies well.

At 20 he should be in the top 50, if not higher. I would even say top 20, but I am worried he might flame out at some pt.

If he gets coached well, and plays with a clear head...he will be quite good.
 

ChiefAce

Semi-Pro
I was quite impressed with Donald young, he was hitting 120 mph serves and staying in the rallies well.

At 20 he should be in the top 50, if not higher. I would even say top 20, but I am worried he might flame out at some pt.

If he gets coached well, and plays with a clear head...he will be quite good.

I'll call it right now, top 10 by the age of 21 assuming he doesn't get injured. He needs to tweak his serve and forehand just a bit but I'm sure that will come with time. He just turned 18 and will only continue to make big leaps in rank over the next 2-3 years.
 

Chauvalito

Hall of Fame
I'll call it right now, top 10 by the age of 21 assuming he doesn't get injured. He needs to tweak his serve and forehand just a bit but I'm sure that will come with time. He just turned 18 and will only continue to make big leaps in rank over the next 2-3 years.

I concur, I just hope he doesnt go the way of Safin...

For some reason I think his clay skills are going to be good once he plays more on the surface. He's solid from the baseline and can move to the net to finish pts.

I dont know how he moves on clay, just speculating...
 

mileslong

Professional
I'll call it right now, top 10 by the age of 21 assuming he doesn't get injured. He needs to tweak his serve and forehand just a bit but I'm sure that will come with time. He just turned 18 and will only continue to make big leaps in rank over the next 2-3 years.

you guts think that in two years he will go from where he is now to top 10? i just dont see it...
 

Moose Malloy

G.O.A.T.
you guts think that in two years he will go from where he is now to top 10? i just dont see it...

that's a 3 year span, not 2 years. blake wasn't even on tour until age 20, & struggled in challengers for 3 years after that before becoming a main draw player. Not everyone progresses at the same rate.

does tennissavy still think jill craybas can beat young?
 

tennissavy

Hall of Fame
that's a 3 year span, not 2 years. blake wasn't even on tour until age 20, & struggled in challengers for 3 years after that before becoming a main draw player. Not everyone progresses at the same rate.

does tennissavy still think jill craybas can beat young?

Hi Moose. No, I watched the match last night, with interest, and I think that Young would now beat Craybas but he would have to work to beat her. He has dramatically improved in a year. When I saw him at the US Open his groundstrokes were very unimpressive to put it kindly. I have stated over and over that one can make great improvements in tennis in a very short period of time and this is the case with Donald Young. However, he is still not worthy of all the hype that the media is giving him. A win over Delic is nothing in my book and the only reason that Young took Davydenko to three sets was the unusual and incredibly poor play by the russian. So, let's not get too hopeful, just yet, over Donald Young. He has improved by leaps and bounds though and he should beat Jill.
 

goober

Legend
Hi Moose. No, I watched the match last night, with interest, and I think that Young would now beat Craybas but he would have to work to beat her.

Young would have beat Craybas last year, the year before that and the year before that. Craybas can't beat anybody who has an ATP ranking.

What are you her agent or related to her or something?

She is 5'3". She usually loses in the first round of slams. She would be blown off the court by any ATP player. She has losses this year to such notables as Ayumi Morita, Katie O'Brien and Olga Govortsova. The level between Craybas and the top tier WTA is huge and the level between her and an ATP player is even larger.
 
Young would have beat Craybas last year, the year before that and the year before that. Craybas can't beat anybody who has an ATP ranking.

What are you her agent or related to her or something?

She is 5'3". She usually loses in the first round of slams. She would be blown off the court by any ATP player. She has losses this year to such notables as Ayumi Morita, Katie O'Brien and Olga Govortsova. The level between Craybas and the top tier WTA is huge and the level between her and an ATP player is even larger.


Young would absolutely annihilate every single person on the WTA Tour.
 

Topaz

Legend
Young would have beat Craybas last year, the year before that and the year before that. Craybas can't beat anybody who has an ATP ranking.

What are you her agent or related to her or something?

She is 5'3". She usually loses in the first round of slams. She would be blown off the court by any ATP player. She has losses this year to such notables as Ayumi Morita, Katie O'Brien and Olga Govortsova. The level between Craybas and the top tier WTA is huge and the level between her and an ATP player is even larger.

Jeesh, what did Craybas do to you? She is consistenly ranked in the top 100, and is currently 75. She is one of the best in-shape players on the WTA tour, and is a smart, seasoned player who never beats herself. She has a career WTA singles title, and an ITF singles title so far this year.

Among her wins are Kim Clijsters and Serena Williams. She was one of the American players who would show up for Fed Cup when nobody else would.

She is a consistent player who lacks any weapons, but certainly not deserving of such a harsh post. She's dropping off the radar simply because of her age and because of her diminuitive size.
 
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