chrisheile
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My T-7 ships tomorrow!!! Can't wait to try it.
My T-7 ships tomorrow!!! Can't wait to try it.
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chrisheile
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Hit for the first time today with th T-7 (Play Tennis America, not match play). Very similar to the Head MG Rad OS but feels like I have more control and it feels a bit better on my shoulder. League play Saturday.
Relatively new player here looking to potentially jump into the Gamma range. Just kind of looking for something unique. I've not built any real brand loyalty yet and some of the Gamma sticks look quite intriguing. I guess I'm about a 3.0, still kind of developing. My best and most consistent shot is probably my 1H Backhand, to be honest (is that weird?). I still need help with power from the racquet, but I don't like oversize heads when I've tried them. Considering demoing a CP-1000 or CP-1200. Good idea? What say you, Gamma Quadrant?
If anyone has a 320X in 4 1/2 grip that they wanna sell, I'd be interested: sstchur@yahoo.com
anyone knows if gamma is gonna release a t-7 successor? To me it's almost perfect except i would like to try a bit stiffer version for added power on serves
i dont want to change my rackets right now cause i dont like what the market is offering but my t-7 are kinda beat up now.
i dont want to change my rackets right now cause i dont like what the market is offering but my t-7 are kinda beat up now.
Hey Frankauc,
I think the closest thing to the T-7 right now actually is the 320X. Similar head size, similar balance, similar beam width. But it is a bit stiffer.
But shoot me an email sometime if you get a chance: sstchur@yahoo.com
I might have some additional information that could interest you.
snoopy
Professional
The Gamma G310, which came before the T-7, is what you're looking to try.
Compared to the T-7, the G310 has a similar balance and the same racquet shape and string pattern (the grommets I ordered from Gamma were labeled as being for the G310/T-7). However, the G310 is a bit stiffer and lighter than the T-7.
I've hit with a friend's G310 and it definitely has a bit more pop than the T-7 but without that flexy T-7 feel. It's a good racquet.
I agree snoopy, this is EXACTLY what im looking for. I dont mind the lighter weight cause it gives me even more room for customization. Too bad this frame is discontinued, and i've seen better paint job too, but i would love to try this
forthegame
Hall of Fame
Done!
Picked up a lovely Gamma T-7 from a TW member (thank you) on my recent travels.
Hit with it 2 days now and I like it. Soft, flexible and a nice hit so far. Waiting for the honeymoon period to end but so far, so good.
My other racquet is the Donnay Pro One Ltd which I love but I've been advised to look for something lighter by a coach. Gimmicks are not for me so have been searching for a solid, all-graphite stick.
Passed the "Meaghan thunk test" pretty well and while there's clearly less mass than my Pro One, it's solid. Very little 'tinniness' with my rubberband. I've already seen an improvement with my serve as I seem able to do more. Packing some heat on serve again (diminished somewhat with the Donnay) and I'm happy. Stable against my other hard-hitting coach today so not worried on that front for now.
Strung with Ashaway Liberty 16 at 55lbs - loosened now and feels much better.
I think it'll go well. Will update as I go along.
forthegame
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Another session, another love affair! Hope this honeymoon lasts and lasts! Playing it stock and liking it!
forthegame
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Added some lead at 10/2 - feel changed immediately and I didn't like it, became 'hard'.
Switched the lead to 9/3 and it got better. Not sure if it's made any improvement to my game but this morning my shoulder feels a bit sore - granted I played after a long nightshift with no sleep but thinking of removing the lead entirely or adding it to 12oclock.
Need string suggestions as I think that will be my next recourse.
Switched the lead to 9/3 and it got better. Not sure if it's made any improvement to my game but this morning my shoulder feels a bit sore - granted I played after a long nightshift with no sleep but thinking of removing the lead entirely or adding it to 12oclock.
Need string suggestions as I think that will be my next recourse.
You still hitting/enjoying the T-7?
I just ordered two brand new ones at a good price. Even though I've been using the Fischer Pro One 98 for over a year now and hitting well with it, I've never really gotten over the fact that I abruptly (and for no real reason) got rid of my T-7s. I really liked them a lot, and since I found a good buy, I figured I'd grab a couple and see if I like them as much as I remember.
Should get them on Saturday -- very excited.
forthegame
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Good times. I'm playing it stock except for OG and dampener.
Experimenting with strings at the mo. Does everything well. Need to up my game though. Still hankering after nBlade and MG Radical. Still the T-7 and I will not be easily parted, DV.
Very cool. I'm excited to give these another go. I remember feeling like the ball would sail on me occasionally back when I played with them, so I'm thinking I might string a little tighter this time around.
If they work out well for me, I'll grab two more and probably trade my 4 Fischers for 4 T-7s.
forthegame
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That's my line of thinking too, string tighter. Currently 56lbs with a multi...
Awesome! Just awesome.
Love the T-7, and I'm switching back. There is no doubt at all that I get way more spin with it than with the Fischers. I have better control as well.
I suppose there is the Honeymoon effect to watch out for, but this isn't really a "new" frame for me. It's just going back to what I used to use -- only difference is that it required me actually selling off my old T-7s, and tinkering around with multiple other frames before coming "back home."
T-Seven it is for me. Stock, except for an overgrip. Great frame. I'm going to stock up since these are discontinued.
Love the T-7, and I'm switching back. There is no doubt at all that I get way more spin with it than with the Fischers. I have better control as well.
I suppose there is the Honeymoon effect to watch out for, but this isn't really a "new" frame for me. It's just going back to what I used to use -- only difference is that it required me actually selling off my old T-7s, and tinkering around with multiple other frames before coming "back home."
T-Seven it is for me. Stock, except for an overgrip. Great frame. I'm going to stock up since these are discontinued.
ced
Professional
As a former T-7 user, and appreciator of several Gamma sticks (especially the 330 and 340Xes) I feel sure that if you could get your hands on a Kneissl Black Star you'd never look back !
I know that if I couldn't find a Kneissl I would be hitting a Gamma.
Possibly, but the T-Sevens are readily available to me, brand new, in my grip size, at a fantastic price.
I hit really well with them -- there's no reason to look further.
I'm challenging myself this time. No more racquet switches. No more customizing. This is it. I'm stocking up and I'm done.
... until I switch ;-) (just kidding -- I'm done. Really I am!)
ced
Professional
my challenge too .......
You're lucky to find T-7's in your preferred size at a very reasonable cost ... the Black Star when found isn't ever going to be a bargain!
Since I'm a flat hitter I can't comment on the Black Stars spin generation, as you hit spin the T-7 may well suit you better.
Good luck with them.
You're lucky to find T-7's in your preferred size at a very reasonable cost ... the Black Star when found isn't ever going to be a bargain!
Since I'm a flat hitter I can't comment on the Black Stars spin generation, as you hit spin the T-7 may well suit you better.
Good luck with them.
forthegame
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How do I get more power on my serve? IMHO, that's the only area where my T-7 and I struggle.
I hit my best serves my Head Liquidmetal 4, powerful and fast serves, but not with the T-7. I can't seem to get it right. Wonder if it's the flex....
Today, for my FH, I slowed down my swing and focused on the ball. My, oh my, the FH was miles better. More depth and several FHs dropped and landed on the line bamboozling my opponent.
Now if only I can stop swinging like a madman...
I hit my best serves my Head Liquidmetal 4, powerful and fast serves, but not with the T-7. I can't seem to get it right. Wonder if it's the flex....
Today, for my FH, I slowed down my swing and focused on the ball. My, oh my, the FH was miles better. More depth and several FHs dropped and landed on the line bamboozling my opponent.
Now if only I can stop swinging like a madman...
I'm not sure what to tell you because I had hit a harder serve (for my flat first serve) and a MUCH better kick serve (for my 2nd) with the T-Seven than I did with my Fischers.
But yes, I agree swinging with purpose (instead of like a madman) makes a big big difference.
And the T-7 is excellent for control off the ground. My backhand (both cross court and DTL) has never been better.
forthegame
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Well, well, well.
After reading your comments about serving, today I consciously tried to sort out my serve. I adjusted my grip, focused and voila, some heat came back to my serve. I guess there was a mental thing there that reading your comments helped to remove. Held very easily after that conscious effort with more pace on serve (till the very last game when I got broken serving for the set).
Need to work on my technique for the rest of my game, gotten pretty slack.
Is there a Gamma racquet comparable to the T-7 but in an 18x20 pattern? Would like to try that.
After reading your comments about serving, today I consciously tried to sort out my serve. I adjusted my grip, focused and voila, some heat came back to my serve. I guess there was a mental thing there that reading your comments helped to remove. Held very easily after that conscious effort with more pace on serve (till the very last game when I got broken serving for the set).
Need to work on my technique for the rest of my game, gotten pretty slack.
Is there a Gamma racquet comparable to the T-7 but in an 18x20 pattern? Would like to try that.
I don't think so. I'm not aware of any 18x20s from Gamma. At least, not any new(ish) ones.
Are you hitting a flat first serve?
forthegame
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I try to! LOL!
Do you have pretty sound technique on your serve? I find that I can get descent power on my flat first serve w/ the T-7. Maybe not /incredible/ power, but enough.
I really find that I hit a kick serve well with it. Really well! And I can slice and hit a "heavy" serve with it as well. I find it much more versatile on serve (at least with my mechanics, which I'm told are solid) than my Fischers.
forthegame
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Need suggestions for my T-7.
Have Forten Sweet (16 and 17), what tension do folks recommend? My last foray with a multi (Dunlop Comfort Synthetic) almost ruined my Gamma affair when it went dead (at least I think that's what happened).
Thinking of 55lbs. Should I go lower? I have a tendency to blaze FHs rather long. I hit with a silly long swing with a huge takeback (can't seem to fix it) so if I connect fully, the back fence/opponent's head etc is in danger.
Have Forten Sweet (16 and 17), what tension do folks recommend? My last foray with a multi (Dunlop Comfort Synthetic) almost ruined my Gamma affair when it went dead (at least I think that's what happened).
Thinking of 55lbs. Should I go lower? I have a tendency to blaze FHs rather long. I hit with a silly long swing with a huge takeback (can't seem to fix it) so if I connect fully, the back fence/opponent's head etc is in danger.
I used to use Forten Sweet too. I then went through a long period of time where I experimented with lots and lots of different soft multis. Somtimes hybrided with a poly in the crosses (yes, the crosses). Then I want back to full multi. Then I had a brief affair with full poly, and now most recently, I'm back to plain old Gamma Synthetic Gut 16.
And to be honest, I think I actually hit just as well (or maybe even better) with the thicker, cheaper synthetic gut.
Not that any of this helps you necessarily. My issue with the T-7 in the past was always having the ball sail on me a bit. This time around I strung significantly tighter than I had a few years ago when I used them. I used a multi (Pro Supex Maxim Touch 17) strung at 64/61. It felt pretty nice.
Sad to say though, that after a brief resurgence with the T-7, I'm back to my Fischers again. Well, not really sad. I like the Fischers. I dunno, every time I try to switch away from them, I inevitably come back. I think I am stuck with them for good (for better or worse, my strokes are most grooved with the Fischers and I don't have the patience to change).
T-7s are still good sticks. I'll hang on to them for a while then maybe see if anyone wants 'em.
As for your actual question (which I haven't addressed at all yet)
, here's what I think:Forten Sweet is kinda gummy, and a lot of folks like it best as a cross. Have you ever tried something like Gosen OG Sheep Micro in the mains and Forten Sweet in the crosses?
I'd keep the tension probably mid-range (to slightly above mid) with the Gosen, and I, personally, always like to drop the cross string tension by about 2 or 3 lbs.
Cheers!
-sstchur
forthegame
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Thanks sstchur, I strung it at 59lbs, so will see how that goes. Don't you just hate when you string a raq and can't hit for a few days?
Stringer said Forten was very nice to string.
Moved back to the Fischer eh? True racquetaholic!
Stringer said Forten was very nice to string.
Moved back to the Fischer eh? True racquetaholic!
Hope it works out for you. You know it's funny. In one sense I am a racquetaholic, but in another sense I'm not. I bought the Fischers and started using them pretty faithfully, and before I knew it, more than a year had gone by (longer than I had every stuck with any other racquet). And I thought I was done for good.
Then I briefly toyed with a Yonex that I borrowed from someone, and a Gamma Tour 320X, but neither really did it for me. I wanted to love them both, but I couldn't deny that I just hit better and more consistently with the Fischers.
Then I got an absolute steal of a deal on two new T-7s so I grabbed 'em. Loved them at first hit, but again, when I started to really play (a few matches, and not just casual rallying), I realized that I still hit better with the Fischers.
So every time I try to leave the Fischers, I keep coming back. They're like crack for me! LOL.
But it's not all bad. I hit really well with them -- I've played (and have been playing) the best tennis of my life with them. I should really just stop tinkering b/c it throws off my timing.
Cheers!
-sstchur
Nice thread!
I mentioned elsewhere...but i was looking to switch from the wilson KPS 88 to something more headlight. I was about to just order 2 more BLX six one tours when i stumbled across the Gamma 340x Tour. It was more headlight than the Six one and frankly just felt more comfortable. I liked what it did with my game so i went with it. Just ordererd 2 more.
stringing with M2 proL 17 @ 54:40 but i think i will experiment with some other strings like the RPM and Spiky Sharks. Really happy about the racket, my only concern is the lack of leather grip because i just have a thing about installing replacement grips but i am gonna see if i can get some help with that....
after years with the KPS 88 i find i really look forward to hitting with the 340X
I mentioned elsewhere...but i was looking to switch from the wilson KPS 88 to something more headlight. I was about to just order 2 more BLX six one tours when i stumbled across the Gamma 340x Tour. It was more headlight than the Six one and frankly just felt more comfortable. I liked what it did with my game so i went with it. Just ordererd 2 more.
stringing with M2 proL 17 @ 54:40 but i think i will experiment with some other strings like the RPM and Spiky Sharks. Really happy about the racket, my only concern is the lack of leather grip because i just have a thing about installing replacement grips but i am gonna see if i can get some help with that....
after years with the KPS 88 i find i really look forward to hitting with the 340X
New to Gamma
Hi! Never tried Gamma before. While taking a lesson this morning, the local pro recommended the Gamma Tour 320. I'm a 4.0 player, all around game, approaching 50 yo. Looking to move up head size from my current Wilson BLX Six One Team. Do you think this is the way to go? Also thinking about the Gamma Live Wire Pro 17 for the racquet. Any feedback appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Hi! Never tried Gamma before. While taking a lesson this morning, the local pro recommended the Gamma Tour 320. I'm a 4.0 player, all around game, approaching 50 yo. Looking to move up head size from my current Wilson BLX Six One Team. Do you think this is the way to go? Also thinking about the Gamma Live Wire Pro 17 for the racquet. Any feedback appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Hey YesTennis,
I've got a Tour 320X as well as a number of other Gamma frames and can probably tell you some specifics. Feel free to shoot me an email: sstchur(at)yahoo(dot)com
ced
Professional
The 320X is a very nice frame, if I remember correctly it is 98 sq. in. head ... your pro has made a good recommendation.
forthegame
Hall of Fame
First outing with my T-7 strung with Forten Sweet 16 at 59lbs - disaster!
Didn't like it one bit. Looks like I need more help with power than I thought, FHs were landing midcourt & put away with aplomb by my opponent. Lacked touch and zip.
Maybe it was all me though, long train ride and spent 8hrs total in transit.
Will give it another shot tomorrow including the always helpful standing on strings!
Didn't like it one bit. Looks like I need more help with power than I thought, FHs were landing midcourt & put away with aplomb by my opponent. Lacked touch and zip.
Maybe it was all me though, long train ride and spent 8hrs total in transit.
Will give it another shot tomorrow including the always helpful standing on strings!
ced
Professional
It's the string not the racquet.
forthegame
Hall of Fame
ced
Professional
I always preferred to string my T-7's on the low side .... usually with a multi/syn gut hybrid at 50/54, but I'm a flat hitter and could keep it in.
You will have to experiment with it some to find the right string(s) and tension for you.
In my current racquet I'm using Ashaway Dynamite Soft 17/ Head Syn Gut PPS at 48/52. I had good success with my T-7's using Tourna Quasi Gut and Tourna Irradiated ... both medium priced multi's.
Check Micklier's post here on the board: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=352048 , he has done some pretty extensive testing and posting in the strings section regarding multi's.
Don't give up to soon on the T-7, it's a good stick.
forthegame
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^^^
Thanks ced. Will try that when I tire of the Forten. I don't have Ashaway Dynamite but I do have Alpha Gut 2000, is it comparable?
Mikeler's thread is a mine of information, been looking at that closely.
Might even go as low as 54lbs. Tried 56lbs with a rubbish string and now 59lbs with forten. Probably should experiment with the same string but hey, gotta do with what I have.
I'm actually expecting another racquet soon, the T-7's been good to me so it will not be discarded.
Thanks again.
Thanks ced. Will try that when I tire of the Forten. I don't have Ashaway Dynamite but I do have Alpha Gut 2000, is it comparable?
Mikeler's thread is a mine of information, been looking at that closely.
Might even go as low as 54lbs. Tried 56lbs with a rubbish string and now 59lbs with forten. Probably should experiment with the same string but hey, gotta do with what I have.
I'm actually expecting another racquet soon, the T-7's been good to me so it will not be discarded.
Thanks again.
Alpha Gut 2000 is a very nice string, but I wouldn't really say it's like Forten Sweet. It's a better string, IMO.
I would string the Alpha Gut 2000 on the lower side, like Ced recommended.
Funny that you weren't able to get depths on your shots w/ it strung tighter. I strung up my T-7s in the lows 60s and I wasn't' able to keep the ball in!
forthegame
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Alpha Gut 2000 is a very nice string, but I wouldn't really say it's like Forten Sweet. It's a better string, IMO.
I would string the Alpha Gut 2000 on the lower side, like Ced recommended.
Funny that you weren't able to get depths on your shots w/ it strung tighter. I strung up my T-7s in the lows 60s and I wasn't' able to keep the ball in!
Gosh, you must be a power hitter!
It was actually much better today. I put some heavy books on the strings for a few hours
Not sure if the difference today is attributable to that but hey, better is better!
Unfortunately, my attention will now be divided between the T-7 and a few other frames :shock:
Still a Gamma Quadranter!
ced
Professional
I found Alpha to be pretty stretchy, and as sstchur said a better sting than the Foren. The thing I like about Ashaway Dynamite is that it is not stretchy at all, yet at low tension is very gut -like. Other users complain about its durability, but i have no problem with that. Caution tho, above 55# it plays like a plywood board at 48-54 it is great ..... just something i found from experimenting.
Don't give up on your T-7 just yet ... I really liked the Gamma's especially the 330X, 320X, T-7 and even the 340X (but it was honestly too much racquet for me), but had a time dialing in the right string tension combinations for them.
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forthegame
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Stringing at 59lbs has not worked for me on serve at all. No pace. Today was not a good serving day. The good thing is, this is what experimenting is all about eh?
gd!
Rookie
String for T-7, a story to be continued...
Hi
Started to play these sticks around one and a half years ago on clay court. Got it free of charge plus a set of WeissCannon Scorpion 1.22; tried out and liked it, lots of control and some spin, however I thought I should look for some Poly with added playability/feel.
So for my next try I went to WC Turbotwist 1.24 and found it offered incredible combination of control and touch, bought a real immediately.
During hot July 2010 I found TT to loose tension too fast for my liking, after +2 hrs strokes went too long and simply increasing tension did not helped as it got uncomfortable to my arm. So I restrung simply more oftenly to enjoy as good as I can.
At the end of clay court season I got a set of SP Hyperion 1.24 and was also positively surprised of this well offering package - hitting felt even a bit softer v WCTT which is basically to my liking. During winter season all went ok and I thought I would never look back............anyway, next clay court season started and again I found myself some time later struggling to find some additional useful power & control on demand I got during winter season on carpet floor.
I have to consider that I dropped my base stringing tension during last 18 months from 24.5/25 to 23/23.5 kp experiencing the T-7 is a little under powered stick compared to its specs.
So I started to experience with hybrid strings and got best results while using a Multi for mains and my Hyperion for crosses.
However, as one knows the better is the enemy of good, so I started to play around with some kind of Multis and Polys - closer to what I am used to play.
Finally, I got it; MSV Soft Touch 1.30 & Prince Beast XP 1.25 seem to deliver everything what I was looking for. Currently I have not really any idea how it could be even better - but you know, the better is the enemy of good. And so I will replace the MSV by Prince Recoil once my current setup has finished.
Tbc...
Hi
Started to play these sticks around one and a half years ago on clay court. Got it free of charge plus a set of WeissCannon Scorpion 1.22; tried out and liked it, lots of control and some spin, however I thought I should look for some Poly with added playability/feel.
So for my next try I went to WC Turbotwist 1.24 and found it offered incredible combination of control and touch, bought a real immediately.
During hot July 2010 I found TT to loose tension too fast for my liking, after +2 hrs strokes went too long and simply increasing tension did not helped as it got uncomfortable to my arm. So I restrung simply more oftenly to enjoy as good as I can.
At the end of clay court season I got a set of SP Hyperion 1.24 and was also positively surprised of this well offering package - hitting felt even a bit softer v WCTT which is basically to my liking. During winter season all went ok and I thought I would never look back............anyway, next clay court season started
and again I found myself some time later struggling to find some additional useful power & control on demand I got during winter season on carpet floor.I have to consider that I dropped my base stringing tension during last 18 months from 24.5/25 to 23/23.5 kp experiencing the T-7 is a little under powered stick compared to its specs.
So I started to experience with hybrid strings and got best results while using a Multi for mains and my Hyperion for crosses.
However, as one knows the better is the enemy of good, so I started to play around with some kind of Multis and Polys - closer to what I am used to play.
Finally, I got it; MSV Soft Touch 1.30 & Prince Beast XP 1.25 seem to deliver everything what I was looking for. Currently I have not really any idea how it could be even better - but you know, the better is the enemy of good. And so I will replace the MSV by Prince Recoil once my current setup has finished.
Tbc...
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ced
Professional
Don't mean to horn in here as Im sure sstchur will reply, but
IMHO, and based on my experience with the Fischer Mpro's, Mag Tour's, etc (the Pacific X Force sticks are basically Fischers) ...they all had a wonderful touch and feel, but were underpowered for the average player. The Gamma 320X, 330X, 340X and T-7 all had more 'pop' than the Fischers and almost as good control.
Sorry, I'm just now seeing this. Did you ever try a demo of any Pacific frames? Interested to know what you thought.
