Dolgopolov85
G.O.A.T.
Wow, has nobody really mentioned him yet? Incredible singer.
The Greatest Singer of All time:
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SystemicAnomaly
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Had forgotten how hawt Ann Wilson looked (and sounded) back in the 70s.
Bender
G.O.A.T.
Of course I was. Her immense talents are below her vocal chords.
dominikk1985
Legend
You can't really answer this question. Can't compare different music styles. Opera is different than pop music.
I would even say you can only judge opera singing because it has a somewhat standardized technique and is sung strictly after the notes but even with opera it is subjective.
And when it comes to pop and jazz music is is so diverse and so much improvisation that it is impossible to judge it objectively. I mean there are many objectively bad pop singers and a few good ones but you can't say this pop singer is objectively world class. You can say whether one is just a bad singer or a pretty good one but you can't really rank pop singers objectively and say like he is 7th best in the world.
And then there are very mediocre singers who still produced great influential music like bob dylan for example.
I mean freddy mercury was a very good singer but you could find a similarly good one in a meaningless garage band but you couldn't find an opera singer like wunderlich or pavarotti on the streets because it takes an education (yeah I know paul potts was pretty good but not world opera quality) on top of talent to get there just like you need formal training to become a top tennis player.
An opera singer is like an nba player while a pop singer is like a street ball artist or harlem globetrotter. This doesn't mean the nba player is superior, the streetball artist can do things the NBA player can't
but only one of them is objectively measurable because he acts within a standardized framework.
I would even say you can only judge opera singing because it has a somewhat standardized technique and is sung strictly after the notes but even with opera it is subjective.
And when it comes to pop and jazz music is is so diverse and so much improvisation that it is impossible to judge it objectively. I mean there are many objectively bad pop singers and a few good ones but you can't say this pop singer is objectively world class. You can say whether one is just a bad singer or a pretty good one but you can't really rank pop singers objectively and say like he is 7th best in the world.
And then there are very mediocre singers who still produced great influential music like bob dylan for example.
I mean freddy mercury was a very good singer but you could find a similarly good one in a meaningless garage band but you couldn't find an opera singer like wunderlich or pavarotti on the streets because it takes an education (yeah I know paul potts was pretty good but not world opera quality) on top of talent to get there just like you need formal training to become a top tennis player.
An opera singer is like an nba player while a pop singer is like a street ball artist or harlem globetrotter. This doesn't mean the nba player is superior, the streetball artist can do things the NBA player can't
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Dolgopolov85
G.O.A.T.
Wow, a Yogendra Yadav DP! Another one I didn't think I'd see on Talk Tennis.
ak24alive
Legend
In times like these when most people in Indian politics and media are either fake or stupid or both, one has to recognise and remember the few good ones left.
Yogendra ji is a voice of reason and stands for the poor and the common man.
Extremely knowledgeable person. Love him.
onehandbh
G.O.A.T.
Rafer Alston is a streetballer that later played in the NBA and did alright. He even had some good games in the playoffs.
Dolgopolov85
G.O.A.T.
Share the sentiment too. Gonna take any further discussion offline as this is a music thread but I hope you have seen the Kunal Kamra interview of Javed Akhtar and Yogendra Yadav.
ak24alive
Legend
Haha. That interview is gold. Love it.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
chrischris
G.O.A.T.
David Bowie
Tennis_Hands
Banned
The obvious answer is .... Fedr.
On second and third positions, honourable mention for Tommy Haas and Grigor Dimitrov.
On second and third positions, honourable mention for Tommy Haas and Grigor Dimitrov.
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
golden chicken
Hall of Fame
Didn't see this mentioned yet:
clout
Hall of Fame
Depends on the genre tbh, but IMO:
Rock & Roll Mount Rushmore - Freddie Mercury (Queen), Elvis Presley (the King!), Robert Plant (Led Zeppelin), and Mick Jagger (Rolling Stones)
Pop Mount Rushmore - Michael Jackson, Madonna, Whitney Houston and Britney Spears (love or hate her, she's a pop legend)
Rap and R&B Mount Rushmore - Eminem, Tupac, Notorious BIG, and Jay-Z
Soul and Jazz Mount Rushmore - Ella Fitzgerald, Frank Sinatra, Aretha Franklin, and Louis Armstrong
Grunge Mount Rushmore - Kurt Cobain (Nirvana), Eddie Vader (Pearl Jam), Layne Staley (Alice in Chains), and Chris Cornell (Soundgarden)
Pop Punk/Punk Rock Mount Rushmore - Billy Joe Armstrong (Green Day), Avril Lavigne (pop punk queen for a reason), Brendon Urie (Panic! at the Disco), and Gerard Way (My Chemical Romance)
Rock & Roll Mount Rushmore - Freddie Mercury (Queen), Elvis Presley (the King!), Robert Plant (Led Zeppelin), and Mick Jagger (Rolling Stones)
Pop Mount Rushmore - Michael Jackson, Madonna, Whitney Houston and Britney Spears (love or hate her, she's a pop legend)
Rap and R&B Mount Rushmore - Eminem, Tupac, Notorious BIG, and Jay-Z
Soul and Jazz Mount Rushmore - Ella Fitzgerald, Frank Sinatra, Aretha Franklin, and Louis Armstrong
Grunge Mount Rushmore - Kurt Cobain (Nirvana), Eddie Vader (Pearl Jam), Layne Staley (Alice in Chains), and Chris Cornell (Soundgarden)
Pop Punk/Punk Rock Mount Rushmore - Billy Joe Armstrong (Green Day), Avril Lavigne (pop punk queen for a reason), Brendon Urie (Panic! at the Disco), and Gerard Way (My Chemical Romance)
stringertom
Bionic Poster
Soul GOATs without Marvin Gaye, Diana Ross, Otis Redding or James Brown?
Also, Frank “The Voice” was king of pop before the later generations arrived in the genre. Same for Tony Bennett. Sinatra left jazz when he broke away from Harry James and Tommy Dorsey in the early 40s.
@Vcore89 would nominate Ian Gillan of Deep Purple for best rock vocalist and I would second him.
Vcore89
Talk Tennis Guru
Jesus Christ, true that, in the Rock and Roll category Ian Gillan is a Superstar. Thank you sir!
And I'd include the man with the golden voice Matt Monro and the woman with the most sultry, sexy and sensual voice, Diana Krall.
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stringertom
Bionic Poster
Monro’s From Russia With Love was so damn good!
Jesus Christ, true that, in the Rock and Roll category Ian Gillan is a Superstar. Thanks you sir!
And I'd include the man with the golden voice Matt Monro and the woman with the most sultry, sexy and sensual voice, Diana Krall.
