The Official Angell Users Club

Carreau

Semi-Pro
Not much to say here. It is almost perfect for me. For doubles it has big serve and is very nice for my net game. It is very stable when handling incoming pace (net game as well), very forgiving and very consistent. Cons - higher launch angle and I need more control sometimes for slices, short angle shots. I'm winning a lot with it, feels like home. :)
 

teocem

Rookie
Not much to say here. It is almost perfect for me. For doubles it has big serve and is very nice for my net game. It is very stable when handling incoming pace (net game as well), very forgiving and very consistent. Cons - higher launch angle and I need more control sometimes for slices, short angle shots. I'm winning a lot with it, feels like home. :)
I am using 300 grams (6HL) now and I feel it is a bit light and does not hit a heavy ball. And I ordered a 310/315 after reading your comments. I wander if you tried 320 grams or even 330 grams that exists as options.
 

teocem

Rookie
I have tried V2 300g + 24g at 8 inch handle. So, it was ~325g. It was too heavy for me.
I will comment on your holly grail after mine arrives. This time I will not bother with Sergetti, I am very sensitive for strings and I felt no difference at all.
 

MilanA

Rookie
@teocem well...I have an extended TC100 with 353g and 32cm balance strung and I'm having troubles to keep the ball inside...so it's too much power. Btw i think that no TC100 version lacks power...it's really a power frame.

Poslano z mojega SM-G950F z uporabo Tapatalk
 

teocem

Rookie
@teocem well...I have an extended TC100 with 353g and 32cm balance strung and I'm having troubles to keep the ball inside...so it's too much power. Btw i think that no TC100 version lacks power...it's really a power frame.

Poslano z mojega SM-G950F z uporabo Tapatalk
I think best configuration for V3TC100 is 310 gr with 310 or 315 balance for an avarage built male player.
 

CosmosMpower

Hall of Fame
@teocem well...I have an extended TC100 with 353g and 32cm balance strung and I'm having troubles to keep the ball inside...so it's too much power. Btw i think that no TC100 version lacks power...it's really a power frame.

Poslano z mojega SM-G950F z uporabo Tapatalk

Probably the extended length, too much swing weight.
 

BBender716

Semi-Pro
Oh. My. God. Hit with my TC95, 320g, 310mm, RA70, 16x19 (with lead at 3' and 9') in drills for the first time yesterday. I had absolutely no idea what I was missing in terms of "feel" and control versus my 6.1 95S.

Volleying was way easier and improved handling of fast pace at the net. My OHBH was helped greatly by the "heft" and my forehand was able to really push the pace with an easier time of hitting inside-out or sharply across my body.

All in all, this actually felt VERY similar to a slightly lighter RF97 with better feel. Really, really digging this and ready to use this puppy for a long time coming.
 

ONgame

Semi-Pro
Oh. My. God. Hit with my TC95, 320g, 310mm, RA70, 16x19 (with lead at 3' and 9') in drills for the first time yesterday. I had absolutely no idea what I was missing in terms of "feel" and control versus my 6.1 95S.

Volleying was way easier and improved handling of fast pace at the net. My OHBH was helped greatly by the "heft" and my forehand was able to really push the pace with an easier time of hitting inside-out or sharply across my body.

All in all, this actually felt VERY similar to a slightly lighter RF97 with better feel. Really, really digging this and ready to use this puppy for a long time coming.

TC 95 70RA is the best feeling racquet I have ever used. Immediately felt that after 5 minutes of using it.
 

1990's Graphite

Hall of Fame
Will we see a tc100 at Wimbledon? Tara Moore using the tc100!

DgjCeF8X4AEsQSp.jpg

She sure is! Here is my post from last July
 

ed70

Professional
Me and doubles partner Won a championship tie break from 9-2 down...won it 11-9 last year. Amazing how nice the beer tasted in the bar afterwards.

It’s a fine line winning and losing, I guess she raised her game and her opponents level dropped, easy to lose games quick when this happens.
 
Hi everyone.
After three years playing with TC95 63RA 16x19 339g 7-9pts strung, and leather grip, (no lead added), I made the move to Wilson Ultra Tour with leather grip and no lead added (!!) and am appreciating the increase in maneuverability and control, which is what I was looking for.


I never played with PT630 or H22 but would really like to have the feel of the hit with these frames and also appreciate the head format of these racquets much more than the overly longitudinal head format of Angell frames in my opinion. The head format of PT630/UT seems to inspire more confidence and promote a more "logical" sweetspot...kind of philosophical, so I won't get much into this!

Point is I am considering moving from UT to K7-Lime in order to compare how the stability, feel, power and spin will change.

For those who had similar racquet history, could you please give feedback on what I should expect?

Also, would you agree with TennisNerd on Lime being pretty similar in all several aspects to H22 and UT being pretty similar to PT630?
Some have said that Lime feels closer to PT630 than UT. Maybe mainly because Lime's material composition - aramid and graphite - is pretty identical to PT630's construction and also to Wilson's ProStaff's line, which I played with for 10 years and really enjoyed the blend of power, feel and control, despite it being way more stiff than the raquets I've mentioned.

Thank you all for the quality input in this thread.
 

Pneumated1

Hall of Fame
... The head format of PT630/UT seems to inspire more confidence and promote a more "logical" sweetspot...kind of philosophical, so I won't get much into this! ...

By all means, get into it;) I started playing tennis with a Paul Angell designed, I think, Dunlop 300G and honed my game with the 300 series for about 7 years. Those also had the 'overly longitudinal' head shape that you referenced. From those, I went to Volkl, which actually suits me best for head shape because I tend to hit a little lower on the head and love the width at 5/7 for the slice backhand. Now that I've been with the TC95 for a few years, the sweet spot is a little higher than I like, but I'm very happy with what I would call a refined Dunlop.
 

Jouke

Professional
I am flabbergasted. I just found out my TC95 16x19 which I thought was 63Ra has an unstrung swingweight of 287g. Meaning it has to be the 70Ra Version. o_O

Edit: measured on my Head swingweight maschine
 
Last edited:

matchpoint9

Rookie
Hi everyone.
After three years playing with TC95 63RA 16x19 339g 7-9pts strung, and leather grip, (no lead added), I made the move to Wilson Ultra Tour with leather grip and no lead added (!!) and am appreciating the increase in maneuverability and control, which is what I was looking for.


I never played with PT630 or H22 but would really like to have the feel of the hit with these frames and also appreciate the head format of these racquets much more than the overly longitudinal head format of Angell frames in my opinion. The head format of PT630/UT seems to inspire more confidence and promote a more "logical" sweetspot...kind of philosophical, so I won't get much into this!

Point is I am considering moving from UT to K7-Lime in order to compare how the stability, feel, power and spin will change.

For those who had similar racquet history, could you please give feedback on what I should expect?

Also, would you agree with TennisNerd on Lime being pretty similar in all several aspects to H22 and UT being pretty similar to PT630?
Some have said that Lime feels closer to PT630 than UT. Maybe mainly because Lime's material composition - aramid and graphite - is pretty identical to PT630's construction and also to Wilson's ProStaff's line, which I played with for 10 years and really enjoyed the blend of power, feel and control, despite it being way more stiff than the raquets I've mentioned.

Thank you all for the quality input in this thread.

I can't answer all of your questions but here's what I can share -- I went from TC95 63 16x19 320g to a leaded UT (for a few months) and then to K7 Lime. I play exclusively doubles so I was looking for a lower launch angle, bigger sweetspot, lower SW / more maneuverable frame than the TC95. I still have my TC95 though, it's a keeper!

Leaded UT is good frame. Good control, comfort, it's a great doubles stick. Then Paul came out with the Lime so I just had to try it. My Lime is 355g all-in, ~8pts HL, strung at 46-47 lbs depending on the string (I use full poly). It serves better than UT, slightly lower launch angle, very comfortable, but most importantly it has a great "feel" and awesome for touch shots. That might be due to the aramid fiber, as you said. At 355g, it hits as big, if not bigger than my TC95. It's also more maneuverable than the UT.

Someone has compared the headsize of TC95 and Lime, and the difference is really, really small. So perhaps if my TC95 was an 18x20, I wouldn't have switched? I don't know.

In stock form, the Lime will probably have more power than the UT, better feel, slightly lower launch angle. I had to get used to that low launch angle and I had already been playing with the UT for a few months! To be honest, I don't think I can play with either the UT or Lime in stock form, they're both too low-powered without additional weight.
 

darklore009

Hall of Fame
I have a TC95 with 70RA and a TC97 with its standard 66RA. Although people would be shocked about the high RA, but it does lend itself to its faster pacing and power. When my string are about to break, the stiffness rating lends itself to not make the string feel dead as compared to the TC97 when its in the same situation.
 

kailash

Hall of Fame
If you are more than 45-50 years old, it is the wiser option for sure...
I am, but the test is mainly for a 13+ old :) I already have a 70 RA TC100 and that is arm friendly even with a full bed of poly. I think all who choose Angell is wise!
 

ed70

Professional
SW’s were all over the place with V1 and V2, part of the reason for the V3 was a better control over SW’s. 70 RA in the V3 tc100 is a couple of points extra SW than the 63RA (Quoted by The main man) Not sure if this is the case with the TC95. Anyway in my opinion the 70RA with a soft poly plays great and has a bit of extra pop to the 63RA.
 

topspn

Legend
SW’s were all over the place with V1 and V2, part of the reason for the V3 was a better control over SW’s. 70 RA in the V3 tc100 is a couple of points extra SW than the 63RA (Quoted by The main man) Not sure if this is the case with the TC95. Anyway in my opinion the 70RA with a soft poly plays great and has a bit of extra pop to the 63RA.
So this is directly from Paul? Interesting because it was the reverse with V1 and V2 were 63RA had the higher range of SW. The explanation was that to get the integrity of build and additional flex, there was more wrapping of carbon fibre in different angles to achieve that. That’s why the 63RAs always had extra SW and some extra kick
 

kailash

Hall of Fame
@Carreau after reading so many messages on this thread, I narrowed down the specs and those match your signature! Except for the RA though; still ocsillating between 63 and 70.

TC100 V3 310g/315mm
TC95 V3 16x19 320g/305mm

Which one is your primary racquet, TC100 or TC95? What are the pros and cons of each?
Also, have you played with the V3 70RA versions?
What strings/tensions are better suited for those?
 

ed70

Professional
So this is directly from Paul? Interesting because it was the reverse with V1 and V2 were 63RA had the higher range of SW. The explanation was that to get the integrity of build and additional flex, there was more wrapping of carbon fibre in different angles to achieve that. That’s why the 63RAs always had extra SW and some extra kick

Yes was mentioned in a conversation when I recently picked up a TC100. Not sure of the science behind why the 70RA comes with few extra SW, I just wanted to make sure my frame was between 295-300 SW unstrung. By the way I’m really enjoying Black Knight in my 97 & 100!
 

MilanA

Rookie
So...with rain outside I had the time to tinker with my now standard lenght TC100. I cut it down for 0.5 inch and weighted it a bit under the buttcap.
So the current spec are: 27inch, 350g, 31.6cm balance and 335sw. Can't wait for a little sun to try it out. Btw...can anyone calculate the MgR/I for me?
 

kailash

Hall of Fame

Carreau

Semi-Pro
@Carreau after reading so many messages on this thread, I narrowed down the specs and those match your signature! Except for the RA though; still ocsillating between 63 and 70.

TC100 V3 310g/315mm
TC95 V3 16x19 320g/305mm

Which one is your primary racquet, TC100 or TC95? What are the pros and cons of each?
Also, have you played with the V3 70RA versions?
What strings/tensions are better suited for those?

TC100 is trusted option for me. :) I prefer it for doubles. TC95 is more advanced for singles (if I'm in good shape that day). TC95 is more demanding, less forgiving and has a lower launch angle. It has more precision in the other hand. I found it more string sensitive as well.
I have V2 70RA TC100 and it hangs in my garage. :) It is too powerful and I like flexer sticks as well. But it is very fun stick with free power and huge spin.

TC95 - HyperG.
TC100 - all control oriented strings: Silverstring, SPPP, Black Code, Ultra Cable.
 

Carreau

Semi-Pro
By the way, I have one issue with my TC95s - two sticks feels different. Static weight, balance, SW are very similar, however, I cannot switch during the match - they swings differently.
Maybe weight distribution in the handle is different - I will need to talk with Paul what might be the reason. Gave both rackets to my coach and he confirmed my findings as well.
 

kailash

Hall of Fame
TC100 is trusted option for me. :) I prefer it for doubles. TC95 is more advanced for singles (if I'm in good shape that day). TC95 is more demanding, less forgiving and has a lower launch angle. It has more precision in the other hand. I found it more string sensitive as well.
I have V2 70RA TC100 and it hangs in my garage. :) It is too powerful and I like flexer sticks as well. But it is very fun stick with free power and huge spin.

TC95 - HyperG.
TC100 - all control oriented strings: Silverstring, SPPP, Black Code, Ultra Cable.
That is helpful; thanks.
I am testing out V2 TC100 70RA; it is forgiving, and yes, lots of power! I like it, but son does not. Demoing some other racquets for him now.
Will test the TC100 some more time before deciding on the RA.
 

kailash

Hall of Fame
63 RA seems to be popular than 70 RA. But are there any fans of 70 RA here? And, after testing both?

Currently I have a V2 TC100 70RA and a weighed up TC97 Pro; I much prefer the hoop stability of TC100 compared to TC97. TC97 is also good from the baseline and feels very plush, but at times mushy and the hoop flutters; TC100 is very solid. So, how much different the 63 RA TC100 is compared to 70 RA? What are the comparable racquets to these RAs? For example, I would expect the 70 RA TC100 to be closer to RF97 (in flex/firmness) than 63 RA TC100.

As demos are not available, trying to decide on others exeperiences.
 

Jouke

Professional
SW’s were all over the place with V1 and V2, part of the reason for the V3 was a better control over SW’s. 70 RA in the V3 tc100 is a couple of points extra SW than the 63RA (Quoted by The main man) Not sure if this is the case with the TC95. Anyway in my opinion the 70RA with a soft poly plays great and has a bit of extra pop to the 63RA.
I dont know how accurate this is. I just bought the TC95 v3 18x20 in 70 Ra. I already own the TC95 18x20 in 63ra V2 but that has a hefty swingweight of 340g. My new V3 came yesterday and has a swingweight strung of 318g. Very happy with that.
 

Pneumated1

Hall of Fame
I dont know how accurate this is. I just bought the TC95 v3 18x20 in 70 Ra. I already own the TC95 18x20 in 63ra V2 but that has a hefty swingweight of 340g. My new V3 came yesterday and has a swingweight strung of 318g. Very happy with that.

I'd say it's pretty accurate. I think he's saying that across the board, V3 sw will be more consistent, regardless of RA and model. For example, my two V3 TC95 18x20 63RA come in at 320sw, right there with your 70RA. V3 TC95, TC100, etc. should all have very consistent swingweights. Like you, I'm very happy about that because although lighter, there's no compromise anywhere that I've found.
 

ed70

Professional
Yes V3 more consistent SW’s my TC100 63RA was 295SW unstrung.
The V2 SW’s in most cases were higher and some were too hefty for customers. I guess some customers didn’t expect such high SW when they purchased a 300g 63RA frame...SW was not measured on the custom Racquet configurator...V2 70RA was sometimes an option taken instead of the 63RA due to the lower SW.
Back to the V3 the 70RA’s and 63RA’s also have much closer SW’s now, in fact there’s a reverse in that the 70RA has been quoted as being a few extra SW. wether this is current frame batches I’m not sure, but seems to me V3’s come strung on average somewhere in the region of 320SW.
 

ed70

Professional
63 RA seems to be popular than 70 RA. But are there any fans of 70 RA here? And, after testing both?

Currently I have a V2 TC100 70RA and a weighed up TC97 Pro; I much prefer the hoop stability of TC100 compared to TC97. TC97 is also good from the baseline and feels very plush, but at times mushy and the hoop flutters; TC100 is very solid. So, how much different the 63 RA TC100 is compared to 70 RA? What are the comparable racquets to these RAs? For example, I would expect the 70 RA TC100 to be closer to RF97 (in flex/firmness) than 63 RA TC100.

As demos are not available, trying to decide on others exeperiences.

If you had a 70 RA tc100 and a 63RA with the same SW, (this is easier to get with a V3) the 70 RA would have a little more power in a slightly crisper feel. The 63 RA you notice the extra comfort, but these are quite small differences. I’ve hit both couldn’t really pick between one or the other.
Can’t comment on RF97, never played against anyone who’s any good using one though, my eyes usually light up when an opponent plays with one and my player stats get a nice boost.
 

kailash

Hall of Fame
If you had a 70 RA tc100 and a 63RA with the same SW, (this is easier to get with a V3) the 70 RA would have a little more power in a slightly crisper feel. The 63 RA you notice the extra comfort, but these are quite small differences. I’ve hit both couldn’t really pick between one or the other.
Can’t comment on RF97, never played against anyone who’s any good using one though, my eyes usually light up when an opponent plays with one and my player stats get a nice boost.
Ok, thx. Little more comfort sounds better than little more power!
 

Chas

Rookie
I dont know how accurate this is. I just bought the TC95 v3 18x20 in 70 Ra. I already own the TC95 18x20 in 63ra V2 but that has a hefty swingweight of 340g. My new V3 came yesterday and has a swingweight strung of 318g. Very happy with that.

I'm hoping you might report back in a couple of days after you've hit with the V3 TC95 to let us know what differences and similarities you find to your V2 versions.

I've played with a couple of V1 TC95 16x19 (320/305) for a 3 years, which have played great but are getting a bit worn. I've also tried the K7 red and a TC97 16x19 which I managed to get 2nd hand (& therefore just within my budget). Despite all of them being weighted up & balanced to within a few grams in their ready to play form, and trying to compensate in my mind for swing weight differences, there were definite differences and I couldn't get away from preferring the TC95's. A bit frustrating really - I really wanted to like the TC97 & K7, but I miss the aggressive spin and versatility I can generate with the 95's. Probably a "mind thing", but mine refuses to get out of the way :(

Obviously, a V3 TC95 will have a bit less impact in shots due to the lower swingweight, but I would be very interested if you think it retains the main characteristics of the V2 (which I have to assume was similar to the V1) or what changes you notice.

Enjoy your new racquet.
 

topspn

Legend
I'm hoping you might report back in a couple of days after you've hit with the V3 TC95 to let us know what differences and similarities you find to your V2 versions.

I've played with a couple of V1 TC95 16x19 (320/305) for a 3 years, which have played great but are getting a bit worn. I've also tried the K7 red and a TC97 16x19 which I managed to get 2nd hand (& therefore just within my budget). Despite all of them being weighted up & balanced to within a few grams in their ready to play form, and trying to compensate in my mind for swing weight differences, there were definite differences and I couldn't get away from preferring the TC95's. A bit frustrating really - I really wanted to like the TC97 & K7, but I miss the aggressive spin and versatility I can generate with the 95's. Probably a "mind thing", but mine refuses to get out of the way :(

Obviously, a V3 TC95 will have a bit less impact in shots due to the lower swingweight, but I would be very interested if you think it retains the main characteristics of the V2 (which I have to assume was similar to the V1) or what changes you notice.

Enjoy your new racquet.
It most certainly does and still a fantastic frame for aggressive all round play. I also feel the V3 is slightly more connected than prior versions. I have mine at 444g and 8HL with some weight @12, 2 and 10
 
Last edited:

ed70

Professional
It most certainly does and still a fantastic frame for aggressive all round play. I also feel the V3 is slightly more connected than prior versions. I have mine at 444g and 8HL with some weight @12, 2 and 10


I guess you mean 344g!!!! 444g would be hard work lol
 

supineAnimation

Hall of Fame
It most certainly does and still a fantastic frame for aggressive all round play. I also feel the V3 is slightly more connected than prior versions. I have mine at 444g and 8HL with some weight @12, 2 and 10
After playing with the same lead configuration for at least the last 15 years on several different frames (2g at 3 and 9 each, 1g at 12, 3g in the handle), I started having some issues with my backhand this season and began feeling like I had to really lean into rally pace shots in order to hit it solidly. So I've been experimenting with different weighting for the last month or so to try to address the issues, with mixed results. When the backhand situation improved, it often resulted in my forehand or volley suffering. So I tried 10 and 2 for this first time last week.

It made a huge difference, I suspect because I must contact the ball higher on the stringbed and this moved the sweetspot up so that I'm hitting it more in its center. It's definitely going to take some adjustment time because there's a dramatic increase in power, and I'm going to experiment with different amounts at 10 and 2 and counterweight in the handle until I get something I like. But for anyone who's never tried 10 and 2, it's definitely worth the experiment on the chance that you, too, tend to contact the ball above the center of the stringbed.

I've tried lead at just 12, in the throat, just in the handle; pretty much everything but 10 and 2. Nothing made a more dramatic change than trying 10 and 2, not even close.
 

topspn

Legend
Giving up on my ASL3 and selling. And not because I don’t like it but it is seeing zero court time as I am dialed in with my TC95s. Few times i use something else, I grab the K7.
 
Top