to lose shoulder in forehand preparation/takeback

[Anthon]

I´m helping a player that have a very powerful forehand nut the teknik isn´t fully traditional. When the racket takeback is done and she pushes off with the lege/hip rotation the arm doesn´t come forward to begin with. Instead the shoulder gets loaded and the arm ends a bit further behind the "tap the dog position" while the wrist gets loaded.
I think this can´t be optimal? Does any other good players use this type of preparation.

Because the swing is a bit to big to begin with ( at least compared to pros using a high elbow and having the racket head pointing forward with a modern "ATP" forehand style ) the are almost facing the target/being parallel with the baseline when the arm begins to swing forward resulting in late hits. Sometimes the contact point is far enough in front of the body, but then the hips are already pointing to the left ( 10-30 degrees more than parallel to the baseline ). I also think that this means that the chest muscles never get the arm far enough in front of the body to deliver full power potential to the arm. Thoughts and links to players/videos with similar technique would be nice.

Sorry about my bad english

 

[Gazelle]

Not good to lose your shoulder.

 

[aehc84]

I´m helping a player that have a very powerful forehand nut the teknik isn´t fully traditional. When the racket takeback is done and she pushes off with the lege/hip rotation the arm doesn´t come forward to begin with. Instead the shoulder gets loaded and the arm ends a bit further behind the "tap the dog position" while the wrist gets loaded.
I think this can´t be optimal? Does any other good players use this type of preparation.

Because the swing is a bit to big to begin with ( at least compared to pros using a high elbow and having the racket head pointing forward with a modern "ATP" forehand style ) the are almost facing the target/being parallel with the baseline when the arm begins to swing forward resulting in late hits. Sometimes the contact point is far enough in front of the body, but then the hips are already pointing to the left ( 10-30 degrees more than parallel to the baseline ). I also think that this means that the chest muscles never get the arm far enough in front of the body to deliver full power potential to the arm. Thoughts and links to players/videos with similar technique would be nice.

Sorry about my bad english

Why not send a video?

In principle you could try having her hold the throat of the racket longer. You could also try exaggerating the shortening of the stroke.

 

[Dragy]

Sometimes the contact point is far enough in front of the body, but then the hips are already pointing to the left ( 10-30 degrees more than parallel to the baseline ).

You can try as a drill some kind of lock&roll strokes:

Arm lagging is not a problem itself. If the body rotaion slows down when facing the target, arm will catch up for proper forward contact.

 

[Rubens]

There's a player in my group who had the exact same problem. His coach helped him fix it by making him practice closed stance forehands for a while! Not sure why it worked for him. Might not work for everyone.