Top 6 baseline players in the last 20 years
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Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
Maybe Hewitt ahead of Wawrinka but both are great. Ferrer is pretty good too. Quite a few others in the honorable mentions department.
zill
Legend
Hewitt was weak era though. His game couldn’t match the new crop coming through. Wawrinka also annihlated Hewitt in matches.
HetTheGreaterer
Banned
Nadal, ********, Federer, Davydenko, Hewitt, Nalbandian, Murray
zill
Legend
hewitt couldn’t match it after 2010.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
Hewitt was a goner after 2006 and not because the era got tough. The guy was a walking injury.
Also, didn't he beat Wawrinka in a Slam in 2013 or something?
zill
Legend
What injuries did he get?
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
It doesn't mean that he was getting injured every 3 matches, some people get injured once, come back and are never the same. If you think that pre 2006 Hewitt is the same as post 2006 Hewitt then you need to rewatch his matches asap. Take the most brutal competition you can think of in any era and peak Hewitt would be in the top 10.
NatF
Bionic Poster
Lol they're 2-2 with Hewitt winning their only slam match in straights in 2013.
zill
Legend
I just want to know what injuries Hewitt suffered.
NatF
Bionic Poster
Hip, toe etc...he had multiple surgeries. If you don't known even basic **** like that maybe you shouldn't talk about him.
mxmx
Hall of Fame
Agassi, Federer, Nadal, Djokovic
Hard to pick from Courier, Muster, Murray and Hewitt
Guess it also depends which surface. Nadal and Muster are way ahead on that dirt surface. Djoko is great on grass. All surfaces? Agassi, Federer and Djoko.
But if I had to pick just one?
Agassi.
Hard to pick from Courier, Muster, Murray and Hewitt
Guess it also depends which surface. Nadal and Muster are way ahead on that dirt surface. Djoko is great on grass. All surfaces? Agassi, Federer and Djoko.
But if I had to pick just one?
Agassi.
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Deleted member 22147
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Federer and Hewitt are all-court players. But I suppose it depends if you are talking about who is best from the baseline as opposed to 'baseliners'
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Deleted member 22147
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Time flies, but Courier hasn't played a match in over 20 years. He was kind of cooked a few years before that, too.
FatHead250
Professional
Nadal Djokovic Murray Federer Ferrer
Thriller
Hall of Fame
In what world was Federer ever better than Nadal from the baseline? Federer went 5 - 1 down in their first 6 matches, 3 on clay and 3 on hard courts.
There's this weird little tournament in France that you really cannot win unless you are the best baseliner. You don't get many free points off the serve. It's called the French Open. Someone on that list has been pretty invincible there which should be a bit of a clue.
Nadal, Djokovic, Federer, Agassi, Murray -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> Hewitt / Wawrinka / Kuerten / Safin /
K-H
Hall of Fame
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Ferrer is an absolute BEAST
donkus_the_3rd
Rookie
Pure baseline skills
Djokovic
Nadal
Safin (although could fluctuate between 1-6 depending on form)
Agassi
Nalbandian
I would actually say that the top 3 can all fluctuate positions dependent on form. Nalbandian and Agassi to some extent, but don't have the peak levels the other have.
Djokovic
Nadal
Safin (although could fluctuate between 1-6 depending on form)
Agassi
Nalbandian
I would actually say that the top 3 can all fluctuate positions dependent on form. Nalbandian and Agassi to some extent, but don't have the peak levels the other have.
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ForehandCross
G.O.A.T.
If by baseliner you mean someone with consistency, then Federer doesn't really belong on the list
donkus_the_3rd
Rookie
He plays some of the weakest tennis I've seen a top 5 player play.
Would he have even made it into the top 20 in any other era?
ForehandCross
G.O.A.T.
And o don't know why many are overlooking Agassi.
Ferrer over Murray?
Lol no. Murray used to make as less errors as him but was way more crafty and multi dimensional. If Ferrer is there than so should be Hewitt.
Nalbandian and Safin can be mentioned of it is about prowess and not consistency.
Ferrer over Murray?
Lol no. Murray used to make as less errors as him but was way more crafty and multi dimensional. If Ferrer is there than so should be Hewitt.
Nalbandian and Safin can be mentioned of it is about prowess and not consistency.
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
......why?
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
NatF
Bionic Poster
lol what? Federer won most of his slams from the baseline...
OldschoolKIaus
Hall of Fame
Federer
Safin
Nalbandian
Sureshs
Simon
Davydenko
Safin
Nalbandian
Sureshs
Simon
Davydenko
HetTheGreaterer
Banned
Agassi didn't play more than 6 years in 2000sNo Agassi!?
I considered only players that played more than 10 years
Otherwise Agassi is 3rd behind djokodal overall.
(I was a massive agassi fan)
HetTheGreaterer
Banned
Zverev wtf??
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
Federer won the vast majority of his Slams playing from the baseline. The difference between his baseline play and most others that would be on the list is that he has more of an attacking baseline play.
metsman
G.O.A.T.
As we know, Federer won all his majors with his serve and beating up on mugs who were even more clueless from the baseline than he was. He even got the swiss banks to bribe the ATP to allow him to serve in return games which is why he was able to break once in a while. Little known fact from the forgotten amateur 04-06 era. I'd put strong era tycoons like Ferrer on this list before Federer.
HetTheGreaterer
Banned
Yeah so evolved that 23 & 22yo zverev and tsitsipas have much Better ballstriking than 20 and 19 yo djokodal in 2007
metsman
G.O.A.T.
Also a total beatdown from the baseline at 2010 AOPeak for peak I'd back Federer to beat Murray from just the baseline. Won the majority of the baseline rallies in their 2012 Wimbledon final
Fortunately, Murray, like Simon, has B03 matches and B05/YEC matches against crippled, hungover Fed to show his greatness off the baseline.
RS
Bionic Poster
18 more points from the ground wowza. I bet quite a few of those were serve 1/2 punches though and forced errors but still. Think Fed edged out extended rallies too but only slightly.Peak for peak I'd back Federer to beat Murray from just the baseline. Won the majority of the baseline rallies in their 2012 Wimbledon final
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RS
Bionic Poster
Don’t know how he lost that 2nd. He played some of his best tennis ever in that set.
What about forced errors?
NatF
Bionic Poster
Yeah I chose Wimbledon because I don't think anyone can reasonably argue Murray wasn't peak there. Just one matches obviously but in a big match I'd back Fed for sure.
Somehow weak era mug Hewitt drew about even off the ground with Fed in 04-05 in several slam matches
RS
Bionic Poster
Fed was bad in the opening 2 games but he found his form for a while but then let himself down in the last 2 games.
Murray did fall after the roof but Fed was starting to gear anyways. Murray came up with some big serves on big points.
AnOctorokForDinner
Talk Tennis Guru
Mandy's serve % is close in all sets except the second, so it was an anomaly and peak Murray is simply incapable of maintaing such a high level for a full BO5 match
AnOctorokForDinner
Talk Tennis Guru
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