He did well though. At times he looked like Federer taking a forehand to his backhand corner and coming to the net. His backhand and forehand are world class.
But he has gaping holes in slice and volley. Not a drop shotter either.
Tsitsipas - where does he go from here?
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But he has gaping holes in slice and volley. Not a drop shotter either.
You think he's that bad? Come on. I didn't want people to bring up the toilet break controversy. There are threads after threads for that.
People start appreciation threads and no one bats an eyelid? I can't have an improvement thread. I don't get it.
Federer and Del Potro
Bionic Poster
I will accept the position. But under my tutelage, there will be no more bathroom breaks. I will get him a state of the art diaper if need be.
Shy, awkward and misunderstood.
He did make amends and cut short his toilet break against Alcaraz?
He genuinely forgot to change his racket for the new balls. NYC crowd were so loud. He did not hear the umpire it seems.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
to the toilet
boom roasted
boom roasted
Indigo
Professional
In my opinion he needs a good psychologist to work with him. Have you noticed that during points he shakes his hands and body too much? Possibly to much stress and he has a burden of winning. Some issues are inside. He needs to find peace within himself. Also, needs to move away from his dad. Perhaps, Pepe could help?
vex
Legend
So was Federer’s. When you’re trying to be world #1 in the Djokovic era, trying to be an ATG, tiny advantages matter. Pretty much every part of his game is fantastic, including as you said his 1HBH. But if he had a 2hbh on that same level he’d be really scary. I still think Zed has the scarier game on the whole, largely because of his 2hbh
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NuBas
Legend
He needs to separate from his coaching parents
flanker2000fr
Hall of Fame
Moratoglu doesn't coach him full time. I'm sure he provides guidance, plus his training facilities and some coaches who work for him, but does not do day to day coaching for Tsitsipas. He just makes sure he gets seen in the player's box from time to time, as it helps him promote his academy.
flanker2000fr
Hall of Fame
Yes. His inside out FH tends to be too loopy and short, which can expose him if his opponent accelerates down the line.
Georgepeppard007
Rookie
A world class one hand backhand should have a low hard slice option like Federer's. That is the one advantage over the two hander.
Watched Federer use the slice to destroy Krygios at the Chicago Laver Cup. Krygios was totally confused on what to do.
Continually hitting topspin to a player like Alcaraz will just put him in a good rhythm to start blasting the ball. Need to change it up and slice it low and hard putting it deep then short like Federer.
Roddick admitted that the Federer low slice was the reason he kept losing.
Georgepeppard007
Rookie
But then again, Federer's slice never bothered Nadal...
Exactly.
If he develops a slice (at the moment it is embarrassing) and good net play, he would be nearly unbeatable. He needs a new coach - not his dad. It is strange that Mouratoglou hasn't developed his slice and net play already.
I found this gem. Mouratoglou teaching slice to Tsitsipas.
Mouratoglou explaining Tsitsipas backhand.
ollinger
G.O.A.T.
Mouratoglou reminds me of retired actor George Hamilton --- nobody seems to know exactly what he does but he seems to show up wherever there's a camera looking perfectly tanned and self-important.
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Someone like Johansson would be good. I mean he won a slam. I don't think it would work with Murray, though I do think Murray would be a good choice. I think Tsitsipas needs to go more low key though. He doesn't want to be answering questions about working with Muzza all the time. I mean real real low key. Leave the PM stable. Live out somewhere random with Johansson in the off season. No press. No social media. Shave his head. Get in optimal shape. Get the sessions on the therapists couch going. Come back and slay.
Dilexson
Hall of Fame
Gorgeous film.Freedom will guide him.
Karma Tennis
Legend
Tsitsipas will be going to Boston to join his mates Kyrgios, Medvedev, and Zverev at the Laver Cup.
It is a really tough ask to progress a long way through any Major Tournament, let alone the US Open, if you barely hang on to win your 1st Round match in 5 Sets over 5 hours.
Tsitsi was unlikely to get to the second week after that match against Murray.
Going forward, he needs to shorten the points and do everything to get through the early rounds of Tournaments as quickly as possible. He is not going to win too many matches grinding out long games with his SHBH, especially at tournies like Wimbledon and the US Open.
It is a really tough ask to progress a long way through any Major Tournament, let alone the US Open, if you barely hang on to win your 1st Round match in 5 Sets over 5 hours.
Tsitsi was unlikely to get to the second week after that match against Murray.
Going forward, he needs to shorten the points and do everything to get through the early rounds of Tournaments as quickly as possible. He is not going to win too many matches grinding out long games with his SHBH, especially at tournies like Wimbledon and the US Open.
One Handed Dynasty
Semi-Pro
Slice, transition game, and volleys. He has the game to be an all court player but doesn’t have the footwork to come to net.
Krish0608
G.O.A.T.
Needs to be more clutch on the serve. Cannot repeatedly lose from double break up. That’s unacceptable. I think his returning has improved quite a lot though. Needs to develop a competent slice. Yesterday he played intro Alcaraz’s hand by bashing from the baseline. Won’t work all the time. Needs to add more variety.
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
What did Pepe help with exactly?
Not a movie guy. What film is it?
Karma Tennis
Legend
For sure he has to develop a much more consistent 2nd serve. I think it is probably too late for him to develop a competent slice. That time would probably be better spend working on his FH. He could certainly develop an alternative flatter FH and turn that into a weapon.
Imo, he requires strokes that will allow his to finish points more quickly. No point wacking four, five, six or more topspin SHBHs in a row. He needs to get onto the FH asap, and drive it flat for more winners earlier in the point.
TennisDawg
Hall of Fame
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He’s been Serena’s coach since 2012 and the tan comes from teaching in the sunshine. He is also one of the best at giving quick online instruction. I love his YouTube videos. He knows tennis is not rocket science and doesn’t bore his audience with long winded videos but gets to the point in 30 to 90 seconds. I follow him with on facebook. He knows tennis.
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Omega_7000
Legend
Tstsipas should hire someone that can help improve his ROS and slice
EllieK
Hall of Fame
Seriously the bathroom related comments are getting old.
Krish0608
G.O.A.T.
Slice I agree completely. It’s an embarrassing shot. But his ROS has really improved IMO. Still prone to some bad misses on the BH wing, but he returns a whole lot better than he used to.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
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Karma Tennis
Legend
Imho, that won't make any difference against players like Alcaraz. To consistently beat players like Alcaraz and Sinner, he is going to have to shorten the rallies. His playing style is not suited to longer rallies, especially on slower surfaces. He will never outgrind those guys.
Control what you can control. Keep working on the first serve and the Serve+1 rally shot. Try and keep point rallies to less than 5 shots. Win most of them using the flat FH and avoiding the SHBH as much as possible except for hitting winnners. (Also try and develop a decent kicker 2nd serve.). With the time that is left (!), hone the drop shot.
He needs to enhance weapons that will shorten points. That will also make the mental game easier because less time to go off the boil and having to start fighting himself and his father when he is on court.
To be fair and to his credit he did try. He came to the net off a good forehand into the corners many times after the toilet break reset. What let him down was lack of practice - it's not natural for him to do that i.e slice, net play etc. He missed many easy volleys. Let's hope he develops that area as he has wonderful potential.
Dilexson
Hall of Fame
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
Worth a watch even if you aren't into ancient chinese martial arts. Slightly fantastical film.
Amazing cinematography and stunts.
junior74
Talk Tennis Guru
Or youtube. Perhaps both at the same time?
Tsitsipas is the living proof that the one-hander is dead! Great forehand, great serve, better at net than most players, as fit as anyone, and yet players pound his backhand until the greek run out of gas and start giving up free points on his left.
Needs a better slice in order to keep opposition honest.
Needs a better slice in order to keep opposition honest.
How is one handed backhand dead?
Sampras - 14 slams
Federer - 20 slams
Wawrinka - 3 slams
Thiem - 1 slam
The newer generation of Tsitsipas and Shapovalov are taking over, no?
I agree with your point about slice but his backhand is top class. He needs a bit of variety in his game. I think 2022. Or hope.
The problem is that he has too many cracks in his game..which a top 30 player can easily expose on his day. He needs to improve his defensive slice and return on 2nd serves.
Specially stop long toilet breaks to avoid bad karma.
Rebel-I.N.S
Hall of Fame
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