and the match will be aired on major TV channels, with unimaginable amount of prize money.
and by the way, the winner will get the #1 spot in ATP ranking immediately.
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and the match will be aired on major TV channels, with unimaginable amount of prize money.
and by the way, the winner will get the #1 spot in ATP ranking immediately.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
what about novak ? i thought he had the #1 spot
he is finnish, so don't worry
lil bit older, lil bit fatter, lil bit slower, and probably a lil bit shorter... but yeah, i'm back
atatu
Legend
And fast four was invented by 20 year old guys who don't want to take time away from their video games....
heninfan99
Talk Tennis Guru
Welcome back! lil bit older, lil bit fatter, lil bit slower, and probably a lil bit shorter... but yeah, i'm back
well, yeah, sure, if one can consistently hit overheads from those lobs, _and_ come to the net to win a volley here and there, _and_ do not make errors by over-hitting, _and_ be fit enough to run for 2+ hours, _and_ have a decent serve to cause him troubles, _and_ have a decent return to put him on the defensive, _and_ be mentally strong to deal with that very awkward game of his - yeah, such player is going to beat MEP _every time_. No argument here....
that league is only for people who actually play tennis - so I do not think you qualify no matter what........
navigator
Hall of Fame
well, yeah, sure, if one can consistently hit overheads from those lobs, _and_ come to the net to win a volley here and there, _and_ do not make errors by over-hitting, _and_ be fit enough to run for 2+ hours, _and_ have a decent serve to cause him troubles, _and_ have a decent return to put him on the defensive, _and_ be mentally strong to deal with that very awkward game of his - yeah, such player is going to beat MEP _every time_. No argument here....
I agree with 5 of your 7, but not the two bolded. You've just got to be able to get the ball into the court decently - he's not attacking. Is it really *so* hard to do the non-bolded items you mentioned? Is it really that difficult? Maybe it is... he11, I don't know.
user92626
G.O.A.T.
Have you played with wannabe pro's in dubs?
They drive me crazy. They hit hard and seemly lowest percentage and naturally drive the ball out after 1, 2 shots. How's that interesting?
Slowtwitcher
Legend
As GSG gets better at the tennis, his results will get worse. Simply because as his play gets better and less awkward, opponents will have less trouble figuring him out. Because more and more what he plays will look like the tennis.
You can already see that with his McEnroe forehand. It's a lot less awkward than the back spin forehand and gave 50yo less trouble.
You can already see that with his McEnroe forehand. It's a lot less awkward than the back spin forehand and gave 50yo less trouble.
I don't know about that - if he learns good strokes he will be 5.0. 50 year old knows how to serve and hit some shots correctly but if he was a contest of fitness and athleticism he would be crushed.
Slowtwitcher
Legend
Are there a lot of self-taught 5.0's? Some? Any?
Usually the higher levels are populated by former HS/college players.
socallefty
G.O.A.T.
I play in Orange County, CA and USTA leagues play full third sets here. Only if both players agree to a 10-point tiebreaker in lieu of a 3rd set is it allowed, but it usually happens only if the overall match has been decided in favor of one team and it is a dead rubber.
Unless someone has to leave early or the court time is limited, we don't play 10-point tiebreakers at my club in social tennis either - definitely not for singles. I'm over 50, but would never offer to play a 10-point tiebreaker even against a younger opponent. Let's play "real" tennis. It saddens me that USTA is converting more local tournaments to Fast 4 format, match tiebreakers etc.
socallefty
G.O.A.T.
Why would you want to play him? You are a high 5.0 with an UTR of almost 11? Why do you want to beat up on a mid-level 4.5 from Atlanta who is a lot older than you? I don't see the attraction.
Everyone complains that there are too many pushers who are in their local social circuit, leagues and tournaments. So, I would guess there is no shortage of local pushers to play with. Why the fascination with playing this guy? Is it to gain internet notoriety?
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Slowtwitcher
Legend
I'm open to playing against just about anyone, I just don't have really have the bandwidth to go out of my way to make matches happen. Thanks to @TennisTroll setting things up, I'm able to play most of the matches for the channel at my home courts, which happen to be well-suited for recording. I hit with a USTA teammate in my subdivision about once a week, and then the remaining singles matches I have are predominantly for USTA and other leagues.
Of course I like to win, but at this point I'm most interested in playing people who will push me and help me get better. So all else equal, I'd much rather play someone better than me and lose, as long as I get a decent workout.
You never know, this is "TT got talent" thread.
There is something special, isn't it? Otherwise, why would Jeff Salzenstein ( a former top 100 ATP player) pick one of his matches to create two lessons? Eessential Tennis did that as well and has offered to pay for travel expenses to have a match with him.
ChaelAZ
G.O.A.T.
typical TTW. It is possible to get _better_ at tennis while having _worse_ results? I thought that in tennis, not unlike any other competition, we measure 'how good one is' by looking at the results, and the results only. but what do I know......
well, by having a decent serve and return that at least give you an easy point here and there you allow yourself some margin for error in the rest of the other points - and I think we can agree that you need such margin playing someone that does not miss himself. Indeed MEP is not attacking any serves - but your goal needs to be trying to start the point on the advantage. I would say that is even more true on the return. MEP is happy to just get the serve in - and if you just remain as happy simply returning it safely - he got exactly what he wants. A neutral point he is going to grind _every time_ till you are ready to stick a fork in your own eye. By no means I suggest you need to be acing him or hit winners off the return - just something that does not allow him to play the exact same point over and over and over again.
As far as whether the non-bolded part is so hard. Well, the results speak for themselves. Apparently it is not easy as he is having a pretty good record at 4.5 level, and 4.5 is, after all, a pretty advanced level for a recreational player. I mean you are a pretty awesome 4.5 level (at least) yourself so I'm not suggesting you would not beat him. But I would watch it....
Slowtwitcher
Legend
You just don't know what the good tennis is!!!
S&V-not_dead_yet
Talk Tennis Guru
well, by having a decent serve and return that at least give you an easy point here and there you allow yourself some margin for error in the rest of the other points - and I think we can agree that you need such margin playing someone that does not miss himself. Indeed MEP is not attacking any serves - but your goal needs to be trying to start the point on the advantage. I would say that is even more true on the return. MEP is happy to just get the serve in - and if you just remain as happy simply returning it safely - he got exactly what he wants. A neutral point he is going to grind _every time_ till you are ready to stick a fork in your own eye. By no means I suggest you need to be acing him or hit winners off the return - just something that does not allow him to play the exact same point over and over and over again.
As far as whether the non-bolded part is so hard. Well, the results speak for themselves. Apparently it is not easy as he is having a pretty good record at 4.5 level, and 4.5 is, after all, a pretty advanced level for a recreational player. I mean you are a pretty awesome 4.5 level (at least) yourself so I'm not suggesting you would not beat him. But I would watch it....
My money's on Nav.
Please do tell what the 'good tennis' is. Is there some sort of a committee that decides that? Any measuring device? I'm curious.
People focusing on Nav vs GSG or saying how the 50yo beat GSG are focusing on the wrong things. All 3 of them, if you see their clips, have more in common than differences. All play smart, consistent tennis without taking a lot of needless risks.
The initial thread about GSG was more to show that fitness and smart tennis can make you a pretty solid rec level player...something that many on this forum desperately want to be. It was never about GSG’s style being the best for everyone or claiming that he is a great player. Even GSG has been very open and humble about his game and goals.
The initial thread about GSG was more to show that fitness and smart tennis can make you a pretty solid rec level player...something that many on this forum desperately want to be. It was never about GSG’s style being the best for everyone or claiming that he is a great player. Even GSG has been very open and humble about his game and goals.
Slowtwitcher
Legend
Must have more courts over in OC. In other parts in league they always encourage tiebreaks - because you might not be able to get them in.
I can attest to this. When I played USTA in NoVA, most matches were indoors, and all matches were timed at 90 minutes max. As I recall, we weren't strictly required to play a 3rd set TB, but it was futile to attempt a full third set.
I once lost a USTA match in a one point, sudden death tie breaker when I lost the first set 6-4, then won the second set 6-2 about 15 seconds before 90 minutes had elapsed. I later learned that if the game count had been 5-2 in the set when time expired, I would have won the match. What made it even worse was that I was serving, so I could have easily dumped a first serve or two to run out the clock, but I didn't. It's a fine line between being strategic and being sportsmanlike sometimes.
socallefty
G.O.A.T.
Yes, it’s the land of milk and honey where the streets are paved with gold and everywhere you look, we have palm trees, tennis courts and hot bods
The 350 days (or more during the perpetual drought years these days) of sunshine might have something to do with the USTA rules - I’m talking only about weekend leagues on outdoor courts all year long.
socallefty
G.O.A.T.
You must not wander over to the GPPD section much. Don’t you know that the ‘good tennis‘ is played only by one player whose parents work for a Swiss pharmaceutical company
Don’t matter how often he loses to his two main rivals as his legend grows and his fans are more convinced that he is the GOAT - I can see the logic in that case of how the better he gets at tennis, the more he loses…just like the prediction for MEP aka GSG.
MaxTennis
Professional
It’s all for fun haha. Right now, I’m only UTR 9.74 but at my peak in 2013, I was like 11.02.
I’m in Monterey Park if you want to hit sometime. DM me! I’m trying to train for Open tournaments again so it’ll be good to find more players to practice with.
socallefty
G.O.A.T.
I used to live in LA twenty years ago and used to drive to Monterey Park and Arcadia to eat at a lot of the delicious, authentic regional Chinese restaurants in the area - in particular, I used to love Sichuan food. But, now OC has also got its fair share of authentic ethnic restaurants and Chinese ones in particular as there is a large Chinese expat population in Irvine. So, I haven't driven to those areas of LA in more than a decade. If you are ever in Laguna Hills, it would be fun to hit and you can DM me. I am not a 5.0 level player anyway and I am sure you have better practice partners closer to you, but I am a keen student of especially the strategic aspects of the game. All the best in your quest for "Open" glory.
MaxTennis
Professional
SGV has incredible Chinese food. I've been spoiled haha.
Sure, we can figure something out!
Fintft
G.O.A.T.
I would but I am in Canada.
Instead run into an older version of him: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/diary-of-a-racketaholic.347887/post-17036412
Instead run into an older version of him: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/diary-of-a-racketaholic.347887/post-17036412
Dragy
Legend
It’s fun to learn. Who cares for status, if it’s not main income source? I admire MEP using opportunity to get from some great coaches, and to explore himself.
You can be recognized 4.5 pusher/junkballer, or try to become legit better player. Everyone picks for himself, YouTube blogger would pick uniqueness, tennis player would pick improvement.
Purestriker
Legend
Watched this the other day, the coach has a lot of energy and the story on MEP's kidney stone was funny.
No doubt, the feeling of blasting winners left and right with decent technique is addictive, making tennis even more fun.
optic yellow
Legend
In my experience adding a standard groundstroke forehand makes the junkballing playstyle more effective.
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