War for Wimbledon: Zverev vs Baghdatis, Johnson vs (Cilic), Muller vs (Isner)

Who wins? Whose In.

  • Zverev bags Baghs and he's in.

    Votes: 4 44.4%

  • Mr. Johnson big over Cilic seeds

    Votes: 1 11.1%

  • Mr. Johnson comes up short and Dolgo humps his leg

    Votes: 5 55.6%

  • Muller makes the big move past Isner and Tomic-Dasco winner for Queens SF and seed

    Votes: 2 22.2%

  • Muller beats Isner, but then fails at the last hurdle and Dolgo humps his leg

    Votes: 2 22.2%

  • Big John puts Muller out of the running

    Votes: 5 55.6%

  • Baghs bags Zverev

    Votes: 5 55.6%

  • Baghs moves on and wins SF over Feddy and locks down top 24 seeding

    Votes: 2 22.2%

  • Zverev moves on and bags Fed in SF for top 24 seed

    Votes: 1 11.1%

  • Muller and Johnson mania in Queens as they clash in final and get top 24 seeding!

    Votes: 1 11.1%
  • Total voters
    9
  • Poll closed .
Meles

Meles

Bionic Poster
WTF. Johnson serures on first attempt with flattish one handed backhand over powering Cilic at net. Johnson hits two hander on returns, slices ad nauseum and now this backhand.:eek:
 
Meles

Meles

Bionic Poster
Nobody picks Johnson, but he's got the first set impressively in breaker. Down 4-1 in 2nd atm.
 
HipRotation

HipRotation

Hall of Fame
The Green Mile said:
You watched it live? Why asset it on a televised court? How many do they have? Such bs. Sounds like an amzing match and I'll never know. Kind of annoyed now...
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Only the centre court is televised, the others have cameras but they're only used for package pieces at the end of the match and there are some webcams that are for betting sites. I think there isn't enough interest for them to feel the need to have a full camera team since most channels will only be interested in broadcasting all the main court matches.
Meles said:
@HipRotation you got to see this live? Tell us more if you can, please.:p
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I'll try but I've had a sleep now and it isn't as fresh in my head so I'm going to be a bit vague on what happened when and at what score.

To begin with Isner didn't seem like an a good mood, he served first and in the first rally of the match he hit a backhand which floated close to the line and the umpire overuled and called it out. Isner instantly shot him a look and said something to the effect of "I would know if I hit it out" the umpire seemed not fussed by this statement and didn't return Isner's look which Isner held for a bit before getting on with it and holding serve in typical fashion. I thought the ball was long too when watching the trajectory but didn't have a good view of the baseline to say for sure.

Muller's serve is a bit wayward and he isn't getting many 1st serves in and double faults a bit into the net, when he gets broken he looks to his coach with a look of "How can I win?" and says a whole lot of French at him. I'm sitting two rows back and 3 seats to the left of him and Muller's eye line looks right at me whenever he looks at his coach from the other side of the net which was a bit uncomfortable because it feels like he's shouting at me. His coach is completely stone faced and doesn't even give an encouraging clap.

Some point in the middle of the 1st set Muller is about to serve and before he even starts his motion Isner had his racket face up in sign of not being ready. Muller doesn't realise and he serves and the umpire calls a let 1st serve. It then becomes clear that a ballgirl was still trying to collect a loose ball as Muller was going to serve, when the umpire calls a let Isner kicks off at the umpire saying it's unbelievable that he didn't notice the ballgirl on the court and then starts walking toward the chair and says something like "She was on the court and you let him serve" quickly turns to the ballgirl holds up his racket face and says "it's not your fault" and then tells off the umpire saying "That's bad, REALLY bad" 1 set ends and Muller is barking French at himself as he sits down, my French is pretty rudimentary but I'm familiar with swearing in it and Muller was letting rip.

Some time in the 2nd set on Muller's serve one of Muller's balls goes long, even to me it looked long from the other side of the net and no call is made. Isner just explodes like "Are you kidding me!? That ball was so long I wasn't even going to hit it" and some people in the crowd begin shouting "It was out", I'm not sure if it was coming from Isner's box or what but it sounded like British accents. The point is replayed and Isner wins it crushing a forehand straight back at Muller.

The 2nd set goes by without much pressure on either's serve apart from some break points on Isner's serve which he deals with without any trouble. Muller is getting pretty frustrated and when some of Inser's balls fly past him and bounce back from the board he smashes the ball back on the board.

It begins to lightly shower in the middle of the set and the Umpire says "John you want to let this shower pass?" Isner doesn't even look at him and keeps doing his ball bounce between the legs. Umpire turns to Muller and asks the same and Muller gives a Gallic shrug and they get on with it.

The 2nd set tiebreak was ridiculous in just how strong they both were on serve, I'm pretty sure they both held serve continually up until 12-13 or something, at one point Muller had set point on Isner's serve and got into a rally and played an approach to Isner's backhand and Isner hit back with good pace crosscourt into Muller's forehand and Muller couldn't control it and it landed in the deuce doubles alley. He looks straight at his coach which looks like he's accusing his coach of something, he says something to him and then takes off his cap and smashes his face with the face of his own racket like he's facepalming with the string bed.

As some noticed the score got stuck at 13-14 and that was the same on court, the umpire was like "Do not worry, I will keep the score" On the decisive set point Muller got it back and Isner played an approach straight into Muller's forehand and passed Isner at the net down the line I think. Big roar and clenched fist from Muller.

At some point I can't remember when the Murray Bedene match finished and there was lots of applause going on and Isner was taking his time not to get distracted by the noise and got a time violation, he points at the neighboring stands and says he can't serve with that noise going on and shakes his head in exasperation.

Through the 3rd set nothing much happened but Isner continually seemed annoyed at the officials, little utterings that I couldn't hear. Graff, Lahyani and Murphy appear from nowhere and are sitting in the front row in front of me. Lahyani is looking at his phone and giggling to himself and then shows Murphy something on the screen.

At the start of the final tiebreak Isner kills it on Muller's serve, really timed his backhand returns to perfection and jumps ahead to something like 4-1. Then on a rally Muller presses Isner on his backhand and then plays a ferocious slice into Isner's forehand side and Isner has to run across court and inside the baseline, Isner puts a racket on it that basically cuts the grass and Muller is there to put the ball away at the net just before the Umpire calls "Not up"

Isner couldn't contain his frustration to the point of looking comical and there was a lot of nervous laughter from the crowd "HOLY CRAP THAT'S UNBELIEVABLE THE BALL WAS THIS FAR OFF THE GROUND" he walks up to the chair and protests some more and the Umpire gives him a code violation verbal obscenity "For what? I said holy crap"

Isner continues but at one change of ends he walks nearer the stands towards Lars Graff and saying to him "Unbelievable Lars, this is terrible. Terrible" Isner starts serving in anger now, lots of grunt in them and they hit the ground hard but well inside the box, Muller gets his racket on them but can't quite control them, he then starts facing matchpoints on Isner's serve. I wish I could remember the specifics but I remember that a lot of Inser's serves were going out wide and high and Muller got a few of them back by being up on the baseline and taking them on the raise and he got the rally going and it was easy for him to pressure Isner's backhand for an error or set up a crosscourt forehand winner and Muller pulled back into it the tiebreak.

On Muller's matchpoint he plays a bunch of scrappy short balls and pulls Isner in, lobs the ball which didn't look that high but I think Isner was at an awkward angle and didn't want to mis-hit so he ran back after it and could just get around it to try a forehand lob back with his back still to the net. He hit it with too much power and Muller slowly raises his arms up as it sails long.

Isner had a brief handshake and then started talking to Lars saying "He cost me the match, 4-4 and there at 4-1 this was so bad, I just shaked his hand and he runs off" I suddenly notice that the Umpire has just disappeared into thin air, he must've gone off like a rocket because I didn't even notice him leaving. Lars says to Isner "Talk to me later" and Isner walks away.

A little old lady sitting in front of me turns to her companions to discuss the match and she says "Well I believe he had a point"
 
Meles

Meles

Bionic Poster
HipRotation said:
Only the centre court is televised, the others have cameras but they're only used for package pieces at the end of the match and there are some webcams that are for betting sites. I think there isn't enough interest for them to feel the need to have a full camera team since most channels will only be interested in broadcasting all the main court matches.

I'll try but I've had a sleep now and it isn't as fresh in my head so I'm going to be a bit vague on what happened when and at what score.

To begin with Isner didn't seem like an a good mood, he served first and in the first rally of the match he hit a backhand which floated close to the line and the umpire overuled and called it out. Isner instantly shot him a look and said something to the effect of "I would know if I hit it out" the umpire seemed not fussed by this statement and didn't return Isner's look which Isner held for a bit before getting on with it and holding serve in typical fashion. I thought the ball was long too when watching the trajectory but didn't have a good view of the baseline to say for sure.

Muller's serve is a bit wayward and he isn't getting many 1st serves in and double faults a bit into the net, when he gets broken he looks to his coach with a look of "How can I win?" and says a whole lot of French at him. I'm sitting two rows back and 3 seats to the left of him and Muller's eye line looks right at me whenever he looks at his coach from the other side of the net which was a bit uncomfortable because it feels like he's shouting at me. His coach is completely stone faced and doesn't even give an encouraging clap.

Some point in the middle of the 1st set Muller is about to serve and before he even starts his motion Isner had his racket face up in sign of not being ready. Muller doesn't realise and he serves and the umpire calls a let 1st serve. It then becomes clear that a ballgirl was still trying to collect a loose ball as Muller was going to serve, when the umpire calls a let Isner kicks off at the umpire saying it's unbelievable that he didn't notice the ballgirl on the court and then starts walking toward the chair and says something like "She was on the court and you let him serve" quickly turns to the ballgirl holds up his racket face and says "it's not your fault" and then tells off the umpire saying "That's bad, REALLY bad" 1 set ends and Muller is barking French at himself as he sits down, my French is pretty rudimentary but I'm familiar with swearing in it and Muller was letting rip.

Some time in the 2nd set on Muller's serve one of Muller's balls goes long, even to me it looked long from the other side of the net and no call is made. Isner just explodes like "Are you kidding me!? That ball was so long I wasn't even going to hit it" and some people in the crowd begin shouting "It was out", I'm not sure if it was coming from Isner's box or what but it sounded like British accents. The point is replayed and Isner wins it crushing a forehand straight back at Muller.

The 2nd set goes by without much pressure on either's serve apart from some break points on Isner's serve which he deals with without any trouble. Muller is getting pretty frustrated and when some of Inser's balls fly past him and bounce back from the board he smashes the ball back on the board.

It begins to lightly shower in the middle of the set and the Umpire says "John you want to let this shower pass?" Isner doesn't even look at him and keeps doing his ball bounce between the legs. Umpire turns to Muller and asks the same and Muller gives a Gallic shrug and they get on with it.

The 2nd set tiebreak was ridiculous in just how strong they both were on serve, I'm pretty sure they both held serve continually up until 12-13 or something, at one point Muller had set point on Isner's serve and got into a rally and played an approach to Isner's backhand and Isner hit back with good pace crosscourt into Muller's forehand and Muller couldn't control it and it landed in the deuce doubles alley. He looks straight at his coach which looks like he's accusing his coach of something, he says something to him and then takes off his cap and smashes his face with the face of his own racket like he's facepalming with the string bed.

As some noticed the score got stuck at 13-14 and that was the same on court, the umpire was like "Do not worry, I will keep the score" On the decisive set point Muller got it back and Isner played an approach straight into Muller's forehand and passed Isner at the net down the line I think. Big roar and clenched fist from Muller.

At some point I can't remember when the Murray Bedene match finished and there was lots of applause going on and Isner was taking his time not to get distracted by the noise and got a time violation, he points at the neighboring stands and says he can't serve with that noise going on and shakes his head in exasperation.

Through the 3rd set nothing much happened but Isner continually seemed annoyed at the officials, little utterings that I couldn't hear. Graff, Lahyani and Murphy appear from nowhere and are sitting in the front row in front of me. Lahyani is looking at his phone and giggling to himself and then shows Murphy something on the screen.

At the start of the final tiebreak Isner kills it on Muller's serve, really timed his backhand returns to perfection and jumps ahead to something like 4-1. Then on a rally Muller presses Isner on his backhand and then plays a ferocious slice into Isner's forehand side and Isner has to run across court and inside the baseline, Isner puts a racket on it that basically cuts the grass and Muller is there to put the ball away at the net just before the Umpire calls "Not up"

Isner couldn't contain his frustration to the point of looking comical and there was a lot of nervous laughter from the crowd "HOLY CRAP THAT'S UNBELIEVABLE THE BALL WAS THIS FAR OFF THE GROUND" he walks up to the chair and protests some more and the Umpire gives him a code violation verbal obscenity "For what? I said holy crap"

Isner continues but at one change of ends he walks nearer the stands towards Lars Graff and saying to him "Unbelievable Lars, this is terrible. Terrible" Isner starts serving in anger now, lots of grunt in them and they hit the ground hard but well inside the box, Muller gets his racket on them but can't quite control them, he then starts facing matchpoints on Isner's serve. I wish I could remember the specifics but I remember that a lot of Inser's serves were going out wide and high and Muller got a few of them back by being up on the baseline and taking them on the raise and he got the rally going and it was easy for him to pressure Isner's backhand for an error or set up a crosscourt forehand winner and Muller pulled back into it the tiebreak.

On Muller's matchpoint he plays a bunch of scrappy short balls and pulls Isner in, lobs the ball which didn't look that high but I think Isner was at an awkward angle and didn't want to mis-hit so he ran back after it and could just get around it to try a forehand lob back with his back still to the net. He hit it with too much power and Muller slowly raises his arms up as it sails long.

Isner had a brief handshake and then started talking to Lars saying "He cost me the match, 4-4 and there at 4-1 this was so bad, I just shaked his hand and he runs off" I suddenly notice that the Umpire has just disappeared into thin air, he must've gone off like a rocket because I didn't even notice him leaving. Lars says to Isner "Talk to me later" and Isner walks away.

A little old lady sitting in front of me turns to her companions to discuss the match and she says "Well I believe he had a point"
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Wonderful account! Well done.
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So we've all been deprived of seeing Tomic this week too. Any ideas on whether Muller will be able to extend his head to head advantage over Tomic:
2/2015 QF Sydney Hard Gilles Muller Bernard Tomic 7-6(3) 7-6(13) 3.54 - 1.36
10/2012 R128 Indian Wells Masters Hard Gilles Muller Bernard Tomic 4-6 7-6(4) 6-0 3.00 - 1.43
22/2011 SF Nottingham Challenger 1 Grass Gilles Muller Bernard Tomic 6-3 6-4 2.38 - 1.60
4/2009 R64 Australian Open Hard Gilles Muller Bernard Tomic 3-6 6-1 6-4 6-2 1.31 - 3.95

The first three can be dismissed and Tomic has improved his game since early 2015. Does Muller have enough in the tank for this one? Thought it might get delayed until tomorrow, but Raonic up a serve and a break at 3-2 in 2nd over RBA.

In the War for Wimbledon, Muller has to win against Tomic and then likely Raonic in the SF to make it to a seed. Querrey is on the bubble. Dolgo is safe.;)
 
Meles

Meles

Bionic Poster
Also. Zverev will be seeded. Baghs will not.:( Johnson fell apart at 4 all in the 3rd when call for touching the net (which he did as his shoe turned as he moved away, but did not realize and was not happy.) LOL.
 
Backhanded Compliment

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norbac said:
Djokovic.
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that would be amazing but it is gonna be someone who isnt as good a returner if it happens. He could beat maybe krygios, simon or daveeed... maybe a youngster lije theim... i want him to go a couple of rounds.

i want krygios to go deep, uncertain if he has the focus though.

Djoker is only losing to a servebot early or murray/tsonga/fed... but i think only murray has a shot. Lendl fix him please.
 
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Meles

Meles

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Backhanded Compliment said:
that would be amazing but it is gonna be someone who isnt as good a returner if it happens. He could beat maybe krygios, simon or daveeed... maybe a youngster lije theim... i want him to go a couple of rounds.

i want krygios to go deep, uncertain if he has the focus though.

Djoker is only losing to a servebot early or murray/tsonga/fed... but i think only murray gas a shot. Lendl fix him please.
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Florian Meyer might do the trick as he was an ace machine against Seppi and looked fabulous against Thiem today.

By the way Cilic's loss today has Thiem winning the war for the 8th seed at Wimbledon.
 
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