Lloyd Barcenilla
Professional
Which do you prefer and why?
remyb2 said:I prefer semi-western.
I'm currently almost western as it's more natural but want to be closer to easten as I find it's much easier for approach shots. I'm starting to rush the net more and so a semi-western / eastern grip is alot better.
I find western is just good for baseline.
yeah, western grip is the grip that uses most energy... gives pressure on ur wrist alsostr33t said:i tired using a western grip and for some reason, it's really hard for me and it feels really awkward. so i just went back to my semi-western grip.
I think you're being a bit biased here and not providing solid facts. I play with a western grip and have never had any injuries from it. I prefer to hit balls below my waist and have a hard time hitting near my shoulders. You can change the swing path to be just about anything you want. And I can flatten the ball out any time I want; I never have the feeling of not hitting through. That would only be when I am going for a short angle shot with all spin, which is necessary to be able to hit with any grip.nickybol said:The western grip gives you injuries, trouble handling low balls, difficulties transitioning other grips, disastrous swing paths, a feeling of not hitting through the ball. I gave you this very same advice a while ago Lloyd, and I`ll say it again.
Don`t go to a western forehand grip.
TennsDog said:as Roddick demonstrated yesterday in the "Pursuit of Perfection" shot. It also provides much more spin than SW or eastern. It's all about finding what is comfortable and works for you. And, yes, I do find western forehands more comfortable than any other grip.
"I`ve got a grandfather who smoked all his live and is still alive at the age of hundred"TennsDog said:I think you're being a bit biased here and not providing solid facts. I play with a western grip and have never had any injuries from it. I prefer to hit balls below my waist and have a hard time hitting near my shoulders. You can change the swing path to be just about anything you want. And I can flatten the ball out any time I want; I never have the feeling of not hitting through. That would only be when I am going for a short angle shot with all spin, which is necessary to be able to hit with any grip.
In general, western grip does tend tto be more difficult on low balls, but it can very well be done, as Roddick demonstrated yesterday in the "Pursuit of Perfection" shot. It also provides much more spin than SW or eastern. It's all about finding what is comfortable and works for you. And, yes, I do find western forehands more comfortable than any other grip.
nickybol said:"I`ve got a grandfather who smoked all his live and is still alive at the age of hundred"
Are you sure you are using a western grip? Western grippers usually hit the ball a little bit higher. It could be that you hit through the ball, I don`t know, it`s very hard to tell when I`ve never seen you play.
It is NOT all about finding what is comfortable. If you did that, you`d end up serving with an eastern forehand grip. Tennis is not about finding what is comfortable, but finding what is best. That is my job as a tennis professional.
Yes, I know I use a western grip. I am very knowledgeable regarding tennis and, more specifically, my game. I explain my comfort zone with my forehand by the fact that I developed most of my tennis while hitting against a wall, where the ball rarely bounced above waist high.nickybol said:"I`ve got a grandfather who smoked all his live and is still alive at the age of hundred"
Are you sure you are using a western grip? Western grippers usually hit the ball a little bit higher. It could be that you hit through the ball, I don`t know, it`s very hard to tell when I`ve never seen you play.
It is NOT all about finding what is comfortable. If you did that, you`d end up serving with an eastern forehand grip. Tennis is not about finding what is comfortable, but finding what is best. That is my job as a tennis professional.
My coach changed my grip as a freshman in high school. I changed it back on my own this summer.nickybol said:I am also supposed to be very knowledgeable regarding tennis, in fact, I get paid for it. I don`t give much about how comfortable something is. If you practice something that is good long enough, it will automatically become comfortable.
The choice for a one-hander or a two-hander should not be made because of personal preference, but because of biomechanical characteristics and playing style.
If I was your coach I`d probably wouldn`t change your grip because you look to old to do that, it is too engrained in your game and motor patterns.
My point being that was a long time ago and it wasn't a big change at that point.nickybol said:Your point being?
Lloyd Barcenilla said:With western, do you find it hard to hit winners?
TacoBellBorderBowl1946 said:with a western the ball sits up. Sure you get more consistency and angle, but when you need to finish the point the topspin almost always sits up. Look at Nadal and Roddick. I now use eastern, and I find it easier to end points. I may have more unforced errors, but my forehand is now a weapon that my opponent fears.
Captain America said:IMO there is not one "best" grip...each have strengths and weaknesses. Some people excel using a Western grip, although it's definitely not for everyone.
I use an W and it works best for me. I used a SW previously and it certainly has its advantages but with the W I can hit a heavier ball with extreme topsin that often gives my opponents problems (particularly high kickers to the BH).
IMO you need to find the grip that best suits YOUR game....good luck!
This doesn`t make sense. Comfort is just something you have because you are used to it. If you practise something a thousand times, you will get comfortable with it automatically. Comfort is a combination of practise and biomechanical conditions.fx101 said:Exactly!!! Every grip has its pro's and cons. And yes, Nickybol, comfort is important. Would you hit with a hawaiian grip if it was better? No! It is uncomfortable. The grip is simply the glue that connects you with the racquet. The racquets job is to be an extension of your body. It must feel natural. Some people hit eastern, and I respect that. They can beat me on grass or sometimes on hard court. Some people hit semi-western, they can win on grass or hardcourt or clay, however when are met by some-one toting the specialized grip (eastern for grass, western for clay) they are at a disadvantage. And then the western grippers can easily win on clay or hardcourt. Its more how good your technique is with the grip you have, then the grip itself. For those saying they are not swinging through the ball, it means they are not using the correct swingpath. So comment on your own grip, don't bash other people's grip because you have no understanding of them.