what does a flexible racquet provide?

I was searching through racquet spec and I saw the category "flex (RDC units)." I am guessing that the lower this is the more flexible your racquet is. But, what does low/high flex in a racquet provide? More/less power? More less control? touch? any other characteristics
 

Demekin

New User
In a headlight racquet it would provide a lot of spin if you are taking a full swing of course. Also, it provides more control because it actually sucks up the power from a strong receive, but after that you'd need a good technique to put power back in.

Other than that, thanks to the advent of new racquet performance (if you'd believe it or not) Flexible racquet is/was supposed to feel more comfortable thanks to the same loss of energy at the racquet's head.
 
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Deleted member 25923

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In a headlight racquet it would provide a lot of spin if you are taking a full swing of course. Also, it provides more control because it actually sucks up the power from a strong receive, but after that you'd need a good technique to put power back in.

Other than that, thanks to the advent of new racquet performance (if you'd believe it or not) Flexible racquet is/was supposed to feel more comfortable thanks to the same loss of energy at the racquet's head.

Wait, does that mean that flexible racquets are dying?
 

superstition

Hall of Fame
Racquet flex results in lower ball speed and body shock. Think of something vibrating. Racquet flex is like a vibration. It dissipates energy more randomly instead of sending it shooting into the body and the ball.

Flexible racquets require more effort to produce the same ball speed but also are safer for the body. Back when racquets were really flexible, players used more efficient string (natural gut) and heavier racquets to produce power.
 

Z-Man

Professional
Flex provides spin, feel/feedback, and comfort. A stiff racquet might give you better directional control, but flex gives you spin and depth control, and I believe flex also makes it possible to make tiny adjustments while the ball in on the strings. Most flexible racquets are also heavy, so power isn't a problem. For me, there are only two shots that benefit from a stiff racquet--the serve and the volley.
 

superstition

Hall of Fame
Spin comes from string pattern, string tension, string type, head size, etc. A player can get plenty of spin from a stiff racquet if it has an open string pattern, loose strings, etc. "Feedback" can be anything, including the sharp jolt from a stiff racquet or strings. Some flexible racquets are dampened. It depends on the materials/production.
 

Demekin

New User
Spin comes from string pattern, string tension, string type, head size, etc. A player can get plenty of spin from a stiff racquet if it has an open string pattern, loose strings, etc. "Feedback" can be anything, including the sharp jolt from a stiff racquet or strings. Some flexible racquets are dampened. It depends on the materials/production.

String pattern from open strings increases dwell time, that's the reason why we can expect a better feeling when we swipe at a ball with open string vs closed.

A flexible racquet also provides much dwell time, however if you're not use to it it would feel horrible, therefore your nice swipe/brush on the ball seems absent.

Wait, does that mean that flexible racquets are dying?

Not saying that, just pointing out why there's been much more stiffer frames being released. I demoed an nFury 2 which is a replica of nFury, which both has a really low RA, although the nFury Original seems to be more flexible (maybe it's the weight difference)

Flex provides spin, feel/feedback, and comfort. A stiff racquet might give you better directional control, but flex gives you spin and depth control, and I believe flex also makes it possible to make tiny adjustments while the ball in on the strings. Most flexible racquets are also heavy, so power isn't a problem. For me, there are only two shots that benefit from a stiff racquet--the serve and the volley.

Direction control only when you're reaching for the ball at your side. However when you do a full swing after you turn sideways flexibility is your friend.
 

Anton

Legend
Wow this thread is just ripe with misinformation.

neither frame nor stringbed stiffness effects resulting spin, what they effect is the rebound angle.

Stiffer frame forces higher impact force on the ball, strings and your arm. Which produces more power on ground strokes and volleys at lower weight (though not serves). The slower the ball the more power difference will be compared to flexible frame.

Stiff frames need not be as heavy to produce the power, but they do cause more torque acting on the stringbed and would make a light, narrow frame unstable on off center shots. To increase off center stability a widebody frame is used with larger head size - as both of these increase torsional stability.


On feel: Stiffer frames vibrate at higher frequency and have a more "buzzy", "dry" feel to them. Flexible frames generally feel smoother and more comfortable.
 

fuzz nation

G.O.A.T.
I've gone through a bundle of racquets from crazy stiff to quite flexible and had some fun with the learning process. I used to be a serve and volleyer and the very stiff Prostaff 6.1 Classic (rating of 72) was great for that style. That frame has a lot of backbone and easily puts plenty of pop on the ball, but as I started to play a lot of hardcourt singles, that pop that I got from the stiffer racquets made me really hold back to keep my strokes down on the court.

I tried a spectrum of more flexible racquets and was really surprised by how some softer sticks made it night-and-day easier for me to rally consistently with full strokes, but the ones that were especially soft offered very little pop. Volleying and even serving seemed to a lot more difficult to execute with authority, so I settled in on a good balance for me in the flex range of the low 60's.

The way I've come to think of the whole flex issue is that it determines, to a large degree, a racquet's ratio of velocity to spin production on most shots. The more flex in a racquet, the greater its spin potential can overcome the velocity it puts on the ball... in general. This doesn't mean that a more flexible racquet gives me better control overall, but it definately gives me better control over my "gas pedal". A stiff frame can easily spray a few balls with a mildly quicker swing, but a more flexible racquet requires significantly more "umph" in my stroke to hit a harder ball.
 

Anton

Legend
The more flex in a racquet, the greater its spin potential can overcome the velocity it puts on the ball... in general. This doesn't mean that a more flexible racquet gives me better control overall, but it definately gives me better control over my "gas pedal". A stiff frame can easily spray a few balls with a mildly quicker swing, but a more flexible racquet requires significantly more "umph" in my stroke to hit a harder ball.

or your flexible racket isn't giving as much pop so the ball stays in.
 

Agent Orynge

Professional
Most of the basic information newer posters need is already available in the learning center.

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/LC/SelectingRacquet/SelectingRacquet.html

"Frame Stiffness

The amount a frame deflects during ball contact directly affects its power potential. A stiffer racquet bends less, thus depleting less energy from the ball. A flexible racquet bends more, resulting in more energy loss. A common myth among players is that a flexible racquet, that bends back more, returns more power to the ball due to a catapult-effect. The ball remains on the strings for 3-5 milliseconds, much shorter than it takes a frame to recover. Consequently, a racquet frame doesn’t “return” energy to the ball, it absorbs energy - either more or less, depending on stiffness. Stiffer racquets don’t deflect as much on impact, resulting in less power drain than a flexible racquet.

Frame stiffness doesn’t only affect power though. Control and comfort are also at stake. Generally speaking, a racquet that offers more power provides less control. However, this is largely dependent on player type and ability. An advanced player may prefer a flexible racquet because he or she has a long, fast swing and provides plenty of power. A stiff racquet might be too powerful for this player, resulting in too many balls landing long. A beginning or intermediate player though, may find a stiffer racquet that doesn’t deflect as much on impact, provides better control. This may also apply to a more advanced player with short, compact strokes. To a certain point, stiffer racquets are generally less comfortable than more flexible racquets. A very stiff frame will transmit more impact shock to the wrist, elbow and shoulder than a medium stiff frame. Comfort is difficult to measure - each player has a different perception of what feels comfortable. However, players with arm and/or shoulder problems will generally benefit more from a flexible to medium-stiff frame and should likely avoid stiff or very stiff frames. A lesser known effect of frame stiffness is the amount of spin that can be generated. Generally speaking, stiffer racquets provide less spin than flexible racquets because the ball leaves the stringbed more quickly. "
 

Steve Huff

G.O.A.T.
When I was playing regularly, I was using a PK 5g. One day, I decided to bring out my PK Golden Ace--a wood rackets with graphite facings, about 85sq in, and a normal 16x19 pattern. My serves weren't as hard, but my topspin and my kick serves were kicking up a couple of feet higher than normal. Even my forehands were jumping more. The racket I tested it against was the Pro Supex APD Clone, the Dynamic Ace. I was getting lots more jump with the flexible wood than with the all-graphite frame. What I didn't get was consistent put-away power. And yes, the flexier rackets were easier to control, except maybe on a real drive volley
 
Your arm will thank you for playing with a heavier, more flexible, more headlight racquet with no more than half the string-bed being poly. As for how much impact that has on your game, it really depends on your level. If you're asking this sort of question, my assumption your tennis level is not so great that racquet stiffness impacts quality of shot. It will impact arm health, though.

Of course, I tend to prefer old school feeling racquets. My Kneissl White Star Pro Masters gets more playing time than my Tecnifibre XTC 305. So... take my advice with that knowledge. I still think your arm will thank you if you experiment in the more flexible direction.
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
1. Usually a more softer feel,
2. Is usually more comfortable on your arm than a stiff racquet.
3. Most often then not flexible frames are heavier then lighter frames so those who like a heavier racquet will gravitate to the more flexible ones,
 
It’s absolutely INFURIATING how we cant have a soft and super soft flexy stick offering from Wilson , Head, Babolat ,Dunlop , Tec, Yonex , or Prince and no I don’t think a Clash at 57 is soft and sure as hell ain’t super soft .
It’s infuriating man
 

Bill Lobsalot

Hall of Fame
It’s absolutely INFURIATING how we cant have a soft and super soft flexy stick offering from Wilson , Head, Babolat ,Dunlop , Tec, Yonex , or Prince and no I don’t think a Clash at 57 is soft and sure as hell ain’t super soft .
It’s infuriating man
My Prince Phantom pro 100 has an ra of 54. All the Phantom's are super flexy.
 

bobeeto

Professional
It’s absolutely INFURIATING how we cant have a soft and super soft flexy stick offering from Wilson , Head, Babolat ,Dunlop , Tec, Yonex , or Prince and no I don’t think a Clash at 57 is soft and sure as hell ain’t super soft .
It’s infuriating man
57 is not soft??? Do you want to go back to wood??
 
57 ra on a clash doesn’t feel soft to me . Yes it’s true 48 does but yes I prefer rossignol super soft from the late 80,s early 90,s for me. I play with 33 ra on mine and I love it. It’s an old pro staff classic 6.1 classic 26 model .
 

ey039524

Professional
57 ra on a clash doesn’t feel soft to me . Yes it’s true 48 does but yes I prefer rossignol super soft from the late 80,s early 90,s for me. I play with 33 ra on mine and I love it. It’s an old pro staff classic 6.1 classic 26 model .
I was using the PS 7.5, but recently switched to the phantom 97p. Feels just as soft.
 
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