What generation is Thiem part of?

Meles

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Sephiroth said:
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The Lost Gen term was coined before Thiem broke out in 2016 so unfortunately players like himself and Kyrgios/Pouille don't quite fit the original term or age so well. Its hard to call Thiem Next Gen even though he broke out very close to the same time as Zverev. Thiemerev played Lyon Final right before 2016 French Open.

I refer to Thiem as the spiritual leader of Next Gen, but he really does not have a Gen that fits him well. Nor Kyrgios.
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US Open: Time for Next Gen to deliver on the biggest stage

Alexander Zverev, Nick Kyrgios and Dominic Thiem are among the Next Gen who should be sensing an opportunity at the US Open.
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veroniquem

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old gen = 1980-84 = Federer, Verdasco, Lopez, Seppi, Kohlschreiber, Ferrer
gold gen = 1985-89 = Nadal, Djokovic, Murray, Wawrinka, Delpo, Cilic, Nishikori, Tsonga
lost gen = 1990-94 = Thiem, Goffin, Dimitrov, Schwartzman, Pouille, Busta, Pella, Basilashvili
next gen = 1995-99 = Zverev, Tsitsipas, Medvedev, Berrettini, Shapovalov, Khachanov, De Minaur, Kyrgios, Coric, Rublev
post next gen = 2000+ = Aliassime, Sinner

And btw, next gen is taking over for real. Currently in the top 100, there are:
34 next gen
31 lost gen
27 gold gen
6 old gen
2 post next gen
 
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Lleytonstation

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Sport said:
I do not think he "peaked later" than Dimitrov, Nishikori or Raonic, he is just younger than them.
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He is just better. I will have to say, I give Thiem a hard time, but he might just be coming around. Really hope he continues to improve and might be a threat everywhere going forward. Except FO final of course. ;)
 
Raiden

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What a thread full of pussyfooting, dithering, beating around the bush types who go a million sidetracks to avoid saying one thing.

Just do it — say it: "Kyrgios gen"

The Aussie was the first to have a breakout so it's his name that gets to be next to the "gen".
 
Sephiroth

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Raiden said:
What a thread full of pussyfooting, dithering, beating around the bush types who go a million sidetracks to avoid saying one thing.

Just do it — say it: "Kyrgios gen"

The Aussie was the first to have a breakout so it's his name that gets to be next to the "gen".
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You ****ing tell them Raiden. Lay it on them pussyfooters.
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p.s. is your username based off Metal Gear Solid?
 
UnderratedSlam

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NoleFam said:
Nishikori, Dimitrov and Raonic (lost gen) all started playing around 2009, with Nishikori starting the earliest. Thiem started well after that so he isn't lost gen. He's an early next gen.
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So if I start playing this year, in my 40s, I'll be NextGen too?

Great logic.

It's not when you start it's when you're born.
 
clout

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clout said:
1980-1984: Fed gen
1985-1988: Nadal/Djokovic gen (I.e. golden gen)
1989-1995: Lost gen
1996-1999: Next gen
2000 and after: Baby gen

Therefore, he’s lost gen
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To be more detailed, here are some key names from each “gen:”

Fed/old men gen circa 1980-1984: Federer, Roddick, Hewitt, Ferrer, Safin, Nalbandian, Gonzalez, Davydenko, Verdasco and Soderling

Nadal/Djokovic golden gen circa 1985-1988: Nadal, Djokovic, Murray, Wawrinka, Del Potro, Cilic, Berdych, Tsonga, Isner, Monfils, Gasquet, and Anderson

Lost gen from 1989-1995: Nishikori, Raonic, Dimitrov, Thiem, Sock, Goffin, Schwartzman, Pouille, Kyrgios, Edmund, and Carreno Busta

Next gen from 1996-1999: Medvedev, Zverev, Stefanos, Shapovalov, Khachenov, Rublev, Chung, Coric, De Minaur, Opelka, Tiafoe and Fritz

Baby gen from 2000 onwards: Felix AA and Sinner (those are the only players I know from this gen)
 
NatF

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NoleFam said:
Dimitrov is 28, Raonic is 29 and Nishikori is 30. Thiem is 26 and those players you listed are 23. So Thiem is in the middle of both groups. Personally, I would put him closer to next gen because he started playing considerably late for a tennis player. He was about 21 when he started playing on the tour full time.
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Kei is 30? o_O Time flies.
 
NoleFam

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NatF said:
Feel like Thiem doesn't belong to either group . Perhaps it's funnier to call him a #NextGenner just to rob the LostGen of their "best player".
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Lol. I'm sure lost gen would like to claim him as their own to help their cause.
 
Raiden

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clout said:
1980-1984: Fed gen
1985-1988: Nadal/Djokovic gen (I.e. golden gen)
1989-1995: Lost gen
1996-1999: Next gen
2000 and after: Baby gen

Therefore, he’s lost gen
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Rubbish list.

Whatever criteria you decide to settle upon, you have to divide the generations equally (one generation spanning equal number of years as any another generation). That's how it's always done.
 
BGod

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LostGen.

Like Kyrgios he's younger than the Raonic/Kei/Grigor group but too much time "developing" and Thiem's schedule is such he could fall off by 30.

It's really only starting with Zverev you can look at the following Gen where you have Tsit, Shap & Felix.
 
clout

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Raiden said:
Rubbish list.

Whatever criteria you decide to settle upon, you have to divide the generations equally (one generation spanning equal number of years as any another generation). That's how it's always done.
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If we go by 5-year spanning it doesn’t make much of a difference, although I wouldn’t group Nishikori in the golden gen or Kyrgios with the nextgen.
 
clout

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If we’re going by 5-year increments then:

1980-1984: Fed/old man gen
1985-1989: Djokodal/golden gen
1990-1994: Lost/helpless gen
1995-1999: Next gen
2000-2004: Baby gen

I’m honestly fine with these but the Nadal/Djokovic gen stops at ‘88 imo as Nishikori (born 1989) is clearly part of the lost gen, while the nextgen starts in ‘96 since the cringed nextgen event (for 21 and under players) began in 2017, making the ‘96ers the first next gen’ers (hence ‘95 should be part of lost gen as well).
 
R

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Thiem is clearly part of the Austrian generation like Muster who like to hit with a lot of topspin. All the other generation consideration are purely marketing. No one complained about next generations in the past. Let us count our blessings that Federer is able and willing to prolong his tennis career that long. His predecessors like Borg and Sampras quited much earlier, only Connors comes close.
 
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