Which of the Big 3 will win their Pet Grand Slam Under these Hypothetical Circumstances?

[Razer]

Djokovic's Australia Open Draw

1R - Courier
2R - Sampras
3R - Safin
4R - Wawrinka
QF - Nadal
SF - Federer
Final - Agassi


Nadal's French Open Draw

1R - Wilander
2R - Muster
3R - Bruguera
4R - Lendl
QF - Kuerten
SF - Djokovic
Final - Borg

Federer's Wimbledon Draw

1R - Roddick
2R - Ivanisevic
3R - Becker
4R - Krajicek
QF - Nadal
SF - Djokovic
F - Sampras

All the players are at their peak and everyone has adapted to the latest string technology and training methods.

2 days gap will be given between matches

 

[ffw2]

Depends on if we're talking pre- or post-pipe.

 

[Beerus]

They would all fail to win it.

 

[Razer]

They would all fail to win it.

2 days gap will be given between matches.

 

[Robert F]

Nadal probably still wins 7/10 times.
Fed and Djoker at their peaks in my mind are winning 5-6/10 times.
Djoker/Sampras at their peak have chance of taking out Fed.
Peak Agassi/Safin modernized have a chance against Djoker.
The earlier part of both of their draws they have no issue getting to SF.

 

[Vanilla Slice]

Only Nadal, and even then it would be close. Either that or nobody.

 

[The Blond Blur]

There can only be one:

 

[upchuck]

Nadal may win more than he loses, but probably not.
Djokovic would win at least once, but not more than he loses
Federer would never win

 

[itrium84]

Voted "only Nadal".
Rafa has proved numerous times that he is basically unbeatable in hypothetical matches, he is much much better and greater hypothetical player than Fed and Novak. We all just need to deal with it.

 

[Razer]

Voted "only Nadal".
Rafa has proved numerous times that he is basically unbeatable in hypothetical matches, he is much much better and greater hypothetical player than Fed and Novak. We all just need to deal with it.

But it is hard to bet against Rafa, even with this draw I prepared Rafa is looking overpowered, he probably will beat everyone till Djokovic in 3-4 sets, people like Wilander and Lendl are big names but can they take sets off Nadal to tire him ?

 

[MichaelNadal]

Only Nadal, and even then it would be close. Either that or nobody.

Exactly. Lol at Novaks AO draw

 

[NeutralFan]

Most of the past players from the draw wouldn't even be a top 10 these days (given their play style and different game) failed Hypothetical.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Voted "only Nadal".
Rafa has proved numerous times that he is basically unbeatable in hypothetical matches, he is much much better and greater hypothetical player than Fed and Novak. We all just need to deal with it.

It's not hypothetical lol, look at his record on Chatrier

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Federer vs Becker at Wimbledon is the top of my I'd like to see that wall chart. Closest I got was Top Spin 4 but the stats made it rubbish.

I'd have to go with Nadal here.

 

[ffw2]

Federer vs Becker at Wimbledon is the top of my I'd like to see that wall chart. Closest I got was Top Spin 4 but the stats made it rubbish.

I'd have to go with Nadal here.

Tough ask for Boris. With the shackles n' all.

 

[The Blond Blur]

Voted "only Nadal".
Rafa has proved numerous times that he is basically unbeatable in hypothetical matches, he is much much better and greater hypothetical player than Fed and Novak. We all just need to deal with it.

Yeah, it’s not like he hasn’t set the records for most titles at a single schlem with 14 and counting. Winning the most schlems (4) without dropping a set. Consecutive matches won on a surface. And most consecutive sets won on a surface.

 

[TripleATeam]

If everyone's peak, probably they all fail to win (because of the extreme gaunlet) but Nadal's likeliest, Fed least likely (not because his peak is lower, but because the grass specialists at their peak are monstrous). If only the Big 3 are peak and the rest are average... probably they all win.

 

[ChrisRF]

For Djokovic the questionable match is Wawrinka, for matchup issues. He will beat the other opponents in 4 sets at most. Most of them have a similar style but are just inferior. Those are bread and butter matches for Djokovic.

Nadal at his absolute peak will have no trouble at all. He will still lose 2-3 sets at most.

Peak Federer wins Wimbledon as well. The problem match is Djokovic. Other than that he may lose some tiebreaks on the way, but mostly he will make those serve-and-volley players look quite helpless.

 

[Razer]

Is everyone peak? Are the Big 3? Are their opponents?

If everyone's peak, probably they all fail to win (because of the extreme gaunlet) but Nadal's likeliest, Fed least likely (not because his peak is lower, but because the grass specialists at their peak are monstrous). If only the Big 3 are peak and the rest are average... probably they all win.

Everybody is at their peak obv, Roddick, Goran all would be. If you happen to go 5 sets with them early on then obviously it gets tough as you go on. Looks like only Nadal can pull it off, like @The Blond Blur said the straight sets wins and no sets dropped type stats all work in his favor, will be useful till the semis. Federer most probablt might lose to Nadal himself at wimbledon, Djokovic might reach the final somehow to meet agassi if he can go past the Stan-Nadal-Safin barrier. He might still win but it will cost a lot of energy by the time he faces Agassi I think so.

 

[TripleATeam]

If everyone's peak, probably they all fail to win (because of the extreme gaunlet) but Nadal's likeliest, Fed least likely (not because his peak is lower, but because the grass specialists at their peak are monstrous). If only the Big 3 are peak and the rest are average... probably they all win.

However, I do think Nadal's road to the title is the hardest of all of them. In spite of that, I still think his chances are best. Not far after is Djokovic simply because while his peak is some way worse on HC than Nadal's on clay, his path to the title is easier.

Nadal probably wins 3-4/10 times, Novak 2/10 times, Federer 1/10 times at best.

 

[The Guru]

Djokovic and Fed have basically no chance and I'll take the field over Nadal but he's at least got a solid chance.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Nadal is epic AF

 

[mehdimike]

However, I do think Nadal's road to the title is the hardest of all of them. In spite of that, I still think his chances are best. Not far after is Djokovic simply because while his peak is some way worse on HC than Nadal's on clay, his path to the title is easier.

Nadal probably wins 3-4/10 times, Novak 2/10 times, Federer 1/10 times at best.

The thing is Fedalovic usually took it easier in the first rounds. In this specific scenario they cannot do that or they would find themselves in a tough situation. Can they keep the intensity from the get go?!

 

[mehdimike]

Nadal is epic AF

The fact that people give nadal a decent chance to pull this off, considering the draw, is absolutely phenomeNADAL.

 

[TripleATeam]

The thing is Fedalovic usually take it easier in the first rounds. In this specific scenario they cannot do that or they would find themselves in a tough situation. Can they keep the intensity from the get go?!

At their peak? I'd say they can. 2011 Djokovic allowed 5 games in R1 at the AO, 6 games in the R1 at Wimbledon the same year. 2008 RG Nadal allowed 9 games in the R1, 8 in 05, 06, 6 in 2010. Plus, I think part of it is just pacing themselves. Why kill your opponent 6-0,6-0,6-0 if you don't need to? Let them win the games they serve really well on, conserve energy and just try some stuff out.

Seeing someone like 7-time slam champion Wilander in your R1 probably makes you take it seriously right away.

 

[mehdimike]

At their peak? I'd say they can. 2011 Djokovic allowed 5 games in R1 at the AO, 6 games in the R1 at Wimbledon the same year. 2008 RG Nadal allowed 9 games in the R1, 8 in 05, 06, 6 in 2010. Plus, I think part of it is just pacing themselves. Why kill your opponent 6-0,6-0,6-0 if you don't need to? Let them win the games they serve really well on, conserve energy and just try some stuff out.

Seeing someone like 7-time slam champion Wilander in your R1 probably makes you take it seriously right away.

Yes, but how many times have they needed to do that?! Not in their peak and that was due to the ranking system benefiting the top players in slam draws.

 

[The Guru]

However, I do think Nadal's road to the title is the hardest of all of them. In spite of that, I still think his chances are best. Not far after is Djokovic simply because while his peak is some way worse on HC than Nadal's on clay, his path to the title is easier.

Nadal probably wins 3-4/10 times, Novak 2/10 times, Federer 1/10 times at best.

Djokovic after playing peak Murray, Wawa, and Nadal in a row on a slow HC is gonna barely be able to stand even if he manages to win all 3 he would have absolutely nothing left for the last two rounds. Grass is just impossible to win in this type of thing because the difference between the best guys is too small for one of them not to clip you. Nadal is the only guy with a chance of winning each match convincingly enough that he has the gas for the next matches and his level is also obviously the highest.

 

[metsman]

Assuming all the versions here are peak.

Federer has a big advantage here since you basically gave him a R16 bye. He can treat the first 3 matches like a YEC RR, big servers will keep the points short. R16 is a nice hitting session before middle Sunday with a nice rest. QF will be tough but manageable, SF should be fairly clean and then the F showdown. Definitely a decent chance there.

The rest it's just too tough an ordeal to play that many tough matches in a row. Djokovic may get blitzed 2R for all we know, Ned is the clear favorite first 6 rounds but the first 5 guys will all play stout clay court tennis and make it very physical. Won't have much left.

Edit: with 2 days gap between matches that improves Ned's chances quite a bit. Djokovic has by far the worst chance here since that surface/tournament has too many guys who can peak very high, Sampras/Safin may just flat outpeak him, and in the middle he'll get draw into physical matches that he should win on paper.

 

[mahatma]

Assuming all the versions here are peak.

Federer has a big advantage here since you basically gave him a R16 bye. He can treat the first 3 matches like a YEC RR, big servers will keep the points short. R16 is a nice hitting session before middle Sunday with a nice rest. QF will be tough but manageable, SF should be fairly clean and then the F showdown. Definitely a decent chance there.

The rest it's just too tough an ordeal to play that many tough matches in a row. Djokovic may get blitzed 2R for all we know, Ned is the clear favorite first 6 rounds but the first 5 guys will all play stout clay court tennis and make it very physical. Won't have much left.

Edit: with 2 days gap between matches that improves Ned's chances quite a bit. Djokovic has by far the worst chance here since that surface/tournament has too many guys who can peak very high, Sampras/Safin may just flat outpeak him, and in the middle he'll get draw into physical matches that he should win on paper.

And in all this you forgot it’s peak for peak, are you saying there is better than peak Djokovic at AO. If not, what is outpeaking?

 

[metsman]

And in all this you forgot it’s peak for peak, are you saying there is better than peak Djokovic at AO. If not, what is outpeaking?

I said what I did because it's peak for peak.

If it was prime/post prime vs geriatric I really like Noel's chances here, no doubt.

 

[Razer]

.Federer has a big advantage here since you basically gave him a R16 bye.

I was thinking of including someone like Richard Krajicek there but I havent seen enough of him, so I included Murray there. Looks like it is a bye. But how can you write off the SF as fairly clean and the opening 3 matches as just YEC? It is best of 5, won't Ivanisevic be raining aces?

 

[BorgTheGOAT]

I give Pete a 50/50 against Roger peak for peak even under normal circumstances. After the monster draw we are talking here: 20% maybe at best.

 

[BorgTheGOAT]

Nadal at the FO vs peak Borg? After going through Kuerten, Bruguera, Lendl, Wilander? Clay on top of that being the most taxing surface. Even for him I see a lot of difficulties coming here.

 

[metsman]

I was thinking of including someone like Richard Krajicek there but I havent seen enough of him, so I included Murray there. Looks like it is a bye. But how can you write off the SF as fairly clean and the opening 3 matches as just YEC? It is best of 5, won't Ivanisevic be raining aces?

there's no way Federer loses to Ivanisevic, and the match will be short even if it's competitive. Roddick and Becker could make things interesting, but there's also a non-negligible chance Federer peaks and masterclasses them. Someone like Krajicek or Stich in place of Murray, not to mention Mac or older players, makes it significantly tougher. As it stands right now, Becker is the only one that stands a chance of really taking Fed by surprise if he's not on his game (Roddick can as well ala 2004 but likely will struggle to close the door), so if Federer peaks for that match, the first 4 rounds just aren't that hard.

Federer cleanly beat Djokovic in 2012, so yeah I think peak to peak I'm going with fairly clean.

 

[CoolCoolCool]

2008 Rafa would still win. Fedovic wouldn't, those draws are too brutal.

 

[Arjuntino]

Where is Federer in Djokovics AO run? Swap Wawrinka or Safin. Make it more difficult!!

 

[itrium84]

It's not hypothetical lol, look at his record on Chatrier

You mean, he actually had this draw at RG, in reality?

 

[itrium84]

Yeah, it’s not like he hasn’t set the records for most titles at a single schlem with 14 and counting. Winning the most schlems (4) without dropping a set. Consecutive matches won on a surface. And most consecutive sets won on a surface.

That's what I'm saying, Rafa is at least 3x better and greater hypothetical player than Fed and Novak, basically unbeatable.

 

[Razer]

Where is Federer in Djokovics AO run? Swap Wawrinka or Safin. Make it more difficult!!

Right, I forgot Federer in AO draw, my bad, I have edited Federer in the draw and removed Murray from the draw. Also removed Murray from wimbeldon and replaced him with Krajicek as suggested by @metsman

 

[metsman]

Right, I forgot Federer in AO draw, my bad, I have edited Federer in the draw and removed Murray from the draw. Also removed Murray from wimbeldon and replaced him with Krajicek as suggested by @metsman

good Murray is a total imposter in this type of discussion, good for only running Djokovic around a bit. My work here is complete.

 

[spottishwood]

Djokovic's draw is way too difficult and given the fact that even absolute peak Djokovic fails to breeze through early rounds, I think he ends up losing to Safin.

Federer's draw ain't easy either but the only person I kinda see him losing to before Finals is Becker. I'd say he loses Finals.

Bull has the best shot but I don't see him winning the Finals either.

 

[spottishwood]

good Murray is a total imposter in this type of discussion, good for only running Djokovic around a bit. My work here is complete.

What did you do. Fed at least had a W/O.

 

[djokovic the conqueror]

Djokovic will easily win the Australian Open.

Nadal will lose in the 2nd round to Muster. Nadal's strategy of moonballing to a righty's backhand will fail because Muster is a lefty with an amazing forehand on clay. Nadal's spin will go directly to the strike zone of Muster's forehand. Plus, Muster has the stamina and fitness to go toe to toe against Nadal.

Federer will lose in the semifinal against Djokovic in 4 sets.

 

[BorgTheGOAT]

I was thinking of including someone like Richard Krajicek there but I havent seen enough of him, so I included Murray there. Looks like it is a bye. But how can you write off the SF as fairly clean and the opening 3 matches as just YEC? It is best of 5, won't Ivanisevic be raining aces?

Krajicek of 96 would be tough for everyone in Wimbledon history, even peak Fed and Sampras. During that run he combined his already lethal weapons like serve and very strong volleys for a guy his size with great returning and passing. A real killer-combo.

 

[BorgTheGOAT]

Djokovic will easily win the Australian Open.

Nadal will lose in the 2nd round to Muster. Nadal's strategy of moonballing to a righty's backhand will fail because Muster is a lefty with an amazing forehand on clay. Nadal's spin will go directly to the strike zone of Muster's forehand. Plus, Muster has the stamina and fitness to go toe to toe against Nadal.

Federer will lose in the semifinal against Djokovic in 4 sets.

The first and the third statement are very arguable even though not completely impossible. The second one is pure comedy gold and absolutely clueless.

 

[MichaelNadal]

You mean, he actually had this draw at RG, in reality?

I mean no matter who he plays he wins

 

[TripleATeam]

Right, I forgot Federer in AO draw, my bad, I have edited Federer in the draw and removed Murray from the draw. Also removed Murray from wimbeldon and replaced him with Krajicek as suggested by @metsman

Well now everything I said before is pretty much shot. I'd take peak Djokovic over peak Murray 9+/10 times, but peak Djokovic is practically 50/50 with peak Federer even at the AO. At best 60/40. Djokovic's chances of winning fall by practically 50%. He'd be happy to get 1/10 titles with that draw, same as Federer. Nadal's around 3 or 4/10.

 

[Razer]

Krajicek of 96 would be tough for everyone in Wimbledon history, even peak Fed and Sampras. During that run he combined his already lethal weapons like serve and very strong volleys for a guy his size with great returning and passing. A real killer-combo.

The 7 AO champs total have 18 slams.
The 7 FO champs total have 20 slams.
The 6 W champs (roddick is not a champ) total have 21 slams.

The AO draw seems very tough, I had forgotten Federer, now it looks good for a Fed vs Agassi clash in the final if Novak falls before he reaches Fed. Very hard for Novak to come out unscathed from it. The favor will be returned at Wimbledon, Fed isn't even reaching Sampras I think so, Nadal will make his life hell even if Fed escapes the opening 4 big servers. Djokovic vs Sampras final we might see. The French we will have Nadal vs Borg final, I still fail to see how Borg is so good to beat Nadal ... Rafa is taller than Borg and runs faster too, has more endurance too (this is an arguable point though, borg is known for his 60-70 stroke rallies).

 

[itrium84]

I mean no matter who he plays he wins

That's what I said originally, so yeah, we agree.

 

[Holmes]

Federer doesn't reach the quarterfinals. Novak is a toss up, Nadal limps to the trophy.