Who are the virtual ATGs?

GabeT

G.O.A.T.
Suppose the Big 3 had all decided to retire shortly after turning 30. That means that about 20 slams that they won would have been won by someone else, basically every slam since AO17 except for USO 2020,2021, and 2022.

In this scenario who wins these other slams? Is there another ATG (5-6 slams) hidden there somewhere?
 

mahatma

Hall of Fame
Suppose the Big 3 had all decided to retire shortly after turning 30. That means that about 20 slams that they won would have been won by someone else, basically every slam since AO17 except for USO 2020,2021, and 2022.

In this scenario who wins these other slams? Is there another ATG (5-6 slams) hidden there somewhere?

Murray, Wawrinka, Medvedev for sure
 

zvelf

Hall of Fame
One way to answer this question is to just look at who was stopped by the Big 3. For example, 2017 Wimbledon would likely have been Cilic or Berdych winning, 2018 Wimbledon: Anderson or Nishikori or del Potro most likely, 2019 Wimbledon: Bautista Agut or Querry or Nishikori, 2021 Wimbledon: Berrettini or Shapovalov, 2022 Wimbledon: Kyrgios or Norrie. In other words, we'd have quite a few unlikely champions!
 

The_Order

G.O.A.T.
Who cares...

I thought we didn't like time travel/ hypothetical scenarios...

No ulterior motive here at all... except perhaps trying to make a case for Twitter gen being filled with "virtual" ATGs ... to pump up Noleg's competition...
 

Third Serve

Talk Tennis Guru
Muzz probably gets Wimbledon 2012 without the Fraudulent One in the way. Four Slams seems perfectly reasonable for a player of his abilities, and he was quite good that Wimbledon so it’d be a well deserved title even without Federer in the draw. Now it’s possible that Djokovic wins instead (he lost to Fed in the semis) but between the two I think Murray played the better match against Fed.

Thiem gets AO 2020 and RG 2019 for sure. Maybe RG 2018 but he was not good at all there so it’d be a bit of a weak win. Outside shots at US Open 2018 and RG 2017.

Zverev possibly remains slamless which would make me very happy. There’s a chance he wins AO 2021 since he put up the best effort (as deeply flawed as it was) against Djokovic as anyone from that draw, but I think Med has the advantage in a potential final matchup. Not that Med is any mental titan, but everyone looks good in a comparison to Street here. Ditto for the US Open of that year. RG 2022 is an interesting one because that injury was the definition of a freak accident. 99 times out of 100, he doesn’t get injured on the court right there. If we assume he still gets injured even in this alternate reality, then we might have to hand the trophy to FAA. If he doesn’t suffer an injury, then the Slam Zvirginity will be lost. He lost other times to Nadal and Djokovic in Slams but these three are the only ones where he has a realistic shot of winning the title without them in the draw, imo.

Delpo bags the 2018 US Open. He didn’t look terribly convincing all tournament, but with a virtually empty field it’s hard not to pick him for the title here. The only question is Thiem who would meet Delpo in the semis without Nadal to stop him. I don’t think 2018 Thiem has it in him to win a big match of this scale against someone like Delpo, but I will say that that QF with Nadal was the start of a different kind of Thiem on hard courts. Who knows? Delpo should also get US Open 2017, again not because he was very good but because the field sucks. He probably also gets Wimbledon 2018 but Nishikori might be able to do somethinh

Med is a big winner here. He gets AO 2021 unless Zverev exceeds my (admittedly super low) expectations. He also gets US Open 2019 and AO 2022, without much significant competition to stop him. There’s a possibility that he wins AO 2019, although it’s difficult to make calls about his level since he lost to Djokovic way back in the fourth round. However, given how dire the field was in AO 2019, it’s a tempting pick.

Stef should get both RG 2020 and 2021. Not much to say other than that since he often defeats himself at the Slams rather than Djokovic or Nadal doing the work for him. Perhaps that won’t be the case for this upcoming final.

Wawrinka gets RG 2017. I don’t trust Thiem in a big final against him. I would also favor Stan over Dimitrov at AO 2017, again because I think he’s more likely to bring the goods in a big final than Dimitrov, even though I think Dimitrov reached a technically higher level in his semifinal against Nadal than Stan did against Fed.

Cilic gets AO 2018 without a doubt. Assuming he still has blisters in Wimbledon 2017, I don’t think he wins that. The title is tough to call then, but I think I might actually lean Berdych lol

Bautista Agut gets 2019 Wimbledon, as sad as it sounds. There is no one else I could think of in that draw.

Berrettini nabs Wimbledon 2021, which would be quite depressing in all honesty. Likewise, Nick would probably be the winner of the next year’s Wimbledon, though Sinner might have something to say about that.

That’s all I could think of. I think only Med would have a real shot at hitting 5+ Slams in this situation.
 
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