Who Can Stop Federer?

thejoe

Hall of Fame
Enough it with the rapier-like wit dude - my ribs are hurting. You're right again. Murray is just a big baby - pusher too.

Imagine having a 3-6 H2H to a big baby pusher; how much would that suck.

I think that would force me to cry at times that I would later regret.

Your thoughts on the draw batz?
 

NamRanger

G.O.A.T.
He seemed to recover just fine after the last time he lost to Roger.


Yeah but this time it appeared Roger was focused 100% into the match, where as their other matches (which I know for sure Federer wanted to win, but he seemed not to be "focused" so to speak) he didn't seem to be.



When you lose that slight mental edge though, Federer pounces and takes advantage.
 

batz

G.O.A.T.
I think that would force me to cry at times that I would later regret.

Your thoughts on the draw batz?

I think that would force me to cry at times that I would later regret.

LOL :)

Hey Joe.

I think Roger has a pretty good draw. Rafa too - although Tsonga could give him a wee fright. Novak v Roddick will be interesting again. Murray has a mare - pretty much the draw I picked on the 'pick your worst draw' thread:shock:
 

Aabye

Professional
Yeah but this time it appeared Roger was focused 100% into the match, where as their other matches (which I know for sure Federer wanted to win, but he seemed not to be "focused" so to speak) he didn't seem to be.



When you lose that slight mental edge though, Federer pounces and takes advantage.

So what? If Roger is focused it is his own fault. And there is no guarantee that he will be "focused" next match.
 

thejoe

Hall of Fame
I think that would force me to cry at times that I would later regret.

LOL :)

Hey Joe.

I think Roger has a pretty good draw. Rafa too - although Tsonga could give him a wee fright. Novak v Roddick will be interesting again. Murray has a mare - pretty much the draw I picked on the 'pick your worst draw' thread:shock:

Yes, I'm rather pleased with Roger's draw, I won't lie. Murray does have it tough, although I think he will still come through it.
 

batz

G.O.A.T.
Yeah but this time it appeared Roger was focused 100% into the match, where as their other matches (which I know for sure Federer wanted to win, but he seemed not to be "focused" so to speak) he didn't seem to be.



When you lose that slight mental edge though, Federer pounces and takes advantage.

You miss the point. The last time Murray lost to Fed was in the USO final. If he was going to have mental issues facing Federer after losing to him; how come they weren't manifest in the next 4 matches after what must've been a crushing defeat?

Also, he won the next 2 matches after losing to Roger the 1st time.

The empirical evidence seems to suggest that the opposite of your contention is true - Murray seems to deal with a defeat to Roger pretty well.
 

Shaolin

G.O.A.T.
No one can stop Fed on hardcourt when he is motivated and comes to play.

When will people learn? When he wins the US Open again next year?
 

NamRanger

G.O.A.T.
You miss the point. The last time Murray lost to Fed was in the USO final. If he was going to have mental issues facing Federer after losing to him; how come they weren't manifest in the next 4 matches after what must've been a crushing defeat?

Also, he won the next 2 matches after losing to Roger the 1st time.

The empirical evidence seems to suggest that the opposite of your contention is true - Murray seems to deal with a defeat to Roger pretty well.



Yes but the Cincinnati loss is different though. They were in two different positions at the time. At the USO final, Federer utterly destroyed Murray, but he was the expected to do that and a heavy favorite to win that match anyways.



Cincinnati was different. In fact, the bookies had Murray as a marginal to significant favorite over Federer. It's quite different when you are supposed to be the favorite, yet you lose.
 

batz

G.O.A.T.
Yes, I'm rather pleased with Roger's draw, I won't lie. Murray does have it tough, although I think he will still come through it.

It means Murray will turn up at every match knowing he has to be at his best; which might be a good thing - he can have a tendency to play at his opponent's level +1% in early round macthes.
 

batz

G.O.A.T.
Yes but the Cincinnati loss is different though. They were in two different positions at the time. At the USO final, Federer utterly destroyed Murray, but he was the expected to do that and a heavy favorite to win that match anyways.



Cincinnati was different. In fact, the bookies had Murray as a marginal to significant favorite over Federer. It's quite different when you are supposed to be the favorite, yet you lose.

No it wan't. It was a meaningless three set tournament of no material importance. At least that's what they are when Murray wins them.

Maybe you're right Nam - maybe Fed did strike a major psychological blow. We'll see.
 

joeri888

G.O.A.T.
No it wan't. It was a meaningless three set tournament of no material importance. At least that's what they are when Murray wins them.

Maybe you're right Nam - maybe Fed did strike a major psychological blow. We'll see.

He didn't. All this says is that Federer is playing well and is playing with more confidence than earlier this year. That might make him the slight favourite, but it'll by no means be a blowout, Murray will be ready for it and it'll be a spectacular match. This time Murray won't suffer from being in a first Slam final, and this time Federer will be at his 'present' best. No back pain, no mono, no slumps at this moment. I still feel that current Federer's best is still the best HC game around though tbh, and that it'll largely depend on whether Fed can bring his current A game.

If they even meet
 

Lifted

Semi-Pro
But most people reach an age of emotional maturity at some point.:p

Cool. It's nice to meet someone who has gone through the same things as Federer has in his life and knows exactly what kind of effects they have had on his mentality.
 

Aabye

Professional
Cool. It's nice to meet someone who has gone through the same things as Federer has in his life and knows exactly what kind of effects they have had on his mentality.

All I am saying is that Murray is no more of a baby than Federer. I wouldn't say either of them are, necessarily.
 

Clydey2times

Hall of Fame
OK. You're right. Murray went on public record saying he could beat Roger Federer easily - meaning he would straight set Roger if they met.

Yep, Murray says stuff like that about players all the time. Only last week he was on TV saying how Rafa was his beeatch, Novak wasn't fit to be on the same court and that Pete wouldn't have lucky not to have to face him as no way would Pete have 14 slams.

That rings a bell actually. Murray went on a McEnroe style rant at Djokovic at the change of ends once, screaming at him like Djokovic was a modern day Brad Gilbert.

"You're not fit to be on the same court as me, Novak!!"
 

thejoe

Hall of Fame
It means Murray will turn up at every match knowing he has to be at his best; which might be a good thing - he can have a tendency to play at his opponent's level +1% in early round macthes.

It's annoying. When he coasts he doesn't play well and makes life needlessly difficult for himself. I hope he brings his A-game to the earlier rounds this time.
 

Seany

Banned
Great to see that all Nadal/Djoko/Murray fans can admit Federer is the best out of all of them....now there is more evidence than ever to show this.
 
It's annoying. When he coasts he doesn't play well and makes life needlessly difficult for himself. I hope he brings his A-game to the earlier rounds this time.


Switching subjects, did I see a potential Lopez (your avatar, right?)-Karlovic second round? May be a few aces in that matchup.
 

thejoe

Hall of Fame
Switching subjects, did I see a potential Lopez (your avatar, right?)-Karlovic second round? May be a few aces in that matchup.

I'm sure there will be a few aces in Feli's opening match with Taylor Dent!

I'm going to go with the pattern at the slams and say that Feli will lose first round in 5 sets. (happened at SW19, US and AO!)
 

Tennis_Bum

Professional
Rafael Nadal paid a leg and a half to stop him through 2008 and early 09, and now he is all but spent.

Murray got (bloody) hot last week and still lost in straights.

Djoker was handed a breadstick.

Dear Del Potro has always lost, not made for 5 sets.

I remember Pat Mac at this years AO saying he will never dominate again,
I say if he wins USO he is back on dominating, ever since Madrid.

Well, I am more realistic. If Fed dominates, which is highly unlikely considering the grind on the tour, that will be great because I am a fan. But I'll be content with Fed be in the mix as potential slam winners.

I'll say Fed is the clear favorite obviously, but the only person who can be an obstacle to Fed's winning it all is Fed himself. If Fed doesn't have an off day and plays the way he did during the Semi and Final at Cincinnati for 7 matches, then Fed can win it. Then again, sports is funny that way, that you can get an inspired-like Sampras in 1990 who beats everyone to win it all. But I doubt it will happen this year though.

I just saw the draw today and it's be really funny if Gasquet beats Nadal.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Who Can Stop Federer?

Donald Young can!






(He can stop Federer in the hallway of the locker room and ask for Federer's autograph.) :lol:
 
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