SempreSami
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Kaka's form has been a bit sporadic over the past two seasons tbh.
Who is the best football player in the world?
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BorisBeckerFan
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SempreSami, what leagues do you find the most enjoyable to watch? Eventhough the qauilty of football is higher in England and Spain I've found the Brazilian leauge is very entertaining if you can get past some of the dirty players. Very excitng goals. I'm in the US so the easiest stuff for me to follow is England, Spain, and to some degree Italy. The mexican leauge gets shown a lot on some of the spanish language channels but it's really bad with hardly any good players. The Italian leauge can afford to pay the big bucks to guys like Ibrahimović and Kaka but I think England and Spain are where it's at in terms of the best leauges.
Have you watched the argentinian league? I've watched a couple of big games (like River-Boca) and they're pretty good, the crowd is amazingly intense. Also the French league I like a lot, it's like a mine of good young players.
BorisBeckerFan
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Funny you say that because my brother always tells me I should be watching the Argentinian leauge. They sure export a lot of talent so the leauge must be good.
BorisBeckerFan
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Pirao,
Congrats to you and Spain for all your recent success.
Spain should have a great team for next world cup. If Nadal's mental toughness rubs off on the National team they could take the cup. Spain certainly has the players to do it.
Congrats to you and Spain for all your recent success.
Spain should have a great team for next world cup. If Nadal's mental toughness rubs off on the National team they could take the cup. Spain certainly has the players to do it.
I always felt that Rijkaard and even Aragones (at least until the last Euro) underutilized/misutilized him -
SempreSami
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I'm all for lower league English football, being a supporter and until recently season ticket holder at Gillingham. Just won the League Two play off final, so a nice trip to Wembley that.
As for different countries, I enjoy the mental games you get in South America with all the players either kicking lumps out of each other in between bouts of diving and stealing yards for free kicks (ref turns his back and the player throws it forwards). Quality-wise however I believe the Bundesliga is the best, the football is excellent, the fans are brilliant and despite all the modern stadia, they still have terraces for standing. A matchday ticket also works on public transport in most of places too.
Thank you for your words, I certainly hope our players can do it too, and yes maybe they should learn from Nadal's mental toughness, then they would be unstoppable lol.
And yeah watch the Argentinian league if you can, just like the French league, lots of interesting young players.
I think the Bundesliga has been a little lackluster lately, you have Bayern Munich and then everybody else. Hopefully things will change a little after this season's upset. The Champions League is getting boring lately, there used to be so much more variety in teams making it far, Spanish, French, English, Italian, Portuguese, Dutch, German... Good times.
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Phil
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Yo, Mike, I put your post through the Babelfish translater and still couldn't coime up with a proper translation! But seriously, those guys are my boys. I pay (or paid) them good money to throw matches...
Dedans Penthouse
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Despite his FLAGRANT FAKE FALL against Germany during the last World's Cup, I'd say the "only 24-year-old" Ronaldo is the best.
Then again, I know NOTHING about soccer.
I do however, like the moats around the Rio soocer stadium though.....
;-)
Then again, I know NOTHING about soccer.
I do however, like the moats around the Rio soocer stadium though.....
;-)
SempreSami
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Erm, there was a last day three way scrap for the league two years ago between Stuttgart, Bremen and Schalke.
Ronnie is a dirty cheat, I don't rate him at all.
That's when Stuttgart won the league, Bremen finished second, and Schalke finished third, right? Who came in fourth that year, it wasn't Bayern, was it? IIRC they played UEFA Cup last season so it couldn't have been them. It was Dortmund, correct?
SempreSami
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Nope, it was Bayern. Two years ago around now would have been the end of the 2006/7 season, ergo Bayern took part in the UEFA Cup the following season.
Dedans Penthouse
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why am i posting here?.....i know **** about soccer....lol,....
Nick, I defer to yours, Fena's et al's knowledge of soccer and all things "soccer" and all's I was referring to was when Ronaldo was playing against Deutchland (Portugal vs. Germany) in the last World Cup.
I remember seeing a "super-slo-mo" of Ronaldo trying to advance (with the ball) against a German defender. The German defender attempted to "sweep check" (dropping down/sticking his legs out) the ball away from the attacking Ronaldo. Well, the 'super-slo-mo' replay showed the German's "sweep check" MISSING Ronaldo by a good 6 inches, and since Ronaldo didn't get past the defender with possession of the ball, Ronaldo then proceeded to take a MAJOR DIVE and went down, acting as if he'd been shot in the back with an UZI.....utter, b.s., however hillarious ...
That said, the dude's got "skills" (in my uneducated "American Football" estimation)
"thesbian" and otherwise
Nick, I defer to yours, Fena's et al's knowledge of soccer and all things "soccer" and all's I was referring to was when Ronaldo was playing against Deutchland (Portugal vs. Germany) in the last World Cup.
I remember seeing a "super-slo-mo" of Ronaldo trying to advance (with the ball) against a German defender. The German defender attempted to "sweep check" (dropping down/sticking his legs out) the ball away from the attacking Ronaldo. Well, the 'super-slo-mo' replay showed the German's "sweep check" MISSING Ronaldo by a good 6 inches, and since Ronaldo didn't get past the defender with possession of the ball, Ronaldo then proceeded to take a MAJOR DIVE and went down, acting as if he'd been shot in the back with an UZI.....utter, b.s., however hillarious ...
That said, the dude's got "skills" (in my uneducated "American Football" estimation)
"thesbian" and otherwise
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Feña14
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Nick, I defer to yours, Fena's et al's knowledge of soccer and all things "soccer" and all's I was referring to was when Ronaldo was playing against Deutchland (Portugal vs. Germany) in the last World Cup.
I remember seeing a "super-slo-mo" of Ronaldo trying to advance (with the ball) against a German defender. The German defender attempted to "sweep check" (dropping down/sticking his legs out) the ball away from the attacking Ronaldo. Well, the 'super-slo-mo' replay showed the German's "sweep check" MISSING Ronaldo by a good 6 inches, and since Ronaldo didn't get past the defender with possession of the ball, Ronaldo then proceeded to take a MAJOR DIVE and went down, acting as if he'd been shot in the back with an UZI.....utter, b.s., however hillarious ...
That said, the dude's got "skills" (in my uneducated "American Football" estimation)
"thesbian" and otherwise
It's all about opinions really. I dislike Ronaldo's antics and attitude but as a player, he is absolutely brilliant. He's the current world player of the year and will probably come a close second to Messi this year. He's scored the most goals in all competitions for a British based player aswell as scoring against Inter Milan, a crucial goal against Porto and two fantasic goals against Arsenal, all in the Champions League.
He's a player everyone loves to hate, but he's one of the very best.
Yes, this year. Before that, how many years had Bayern Munich won the title in the last, say, 10 years?
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SempreSami
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Their dominance is no more than in the likes of Spain, Italy or England, four other teams have won the Bundesliga in the past decade.
Last 11 seasons:
Bundesliga La Liga Premier League Serie A
1998-99: Bayern M. Barcelona Manchester United Milan
1999-00: Bayern M. Deportivo Manchester United Lazio
2000-01: Bayern M. Real Madrid Manchester United Roma
2001-02: Borussia D. Valencia Arsenal Juventus
2002-03: Bayern M. Real Madrid Manchester United Juventus
2003-04: Werder B. Valencia Arsenal Milan
2004-05: Bayern M. Barcelona Chelsea n/a
2005-06: Bayern M. Barcelona Chelsea Inter
2006-07: Stuttgart Real Madrid Manchester United Inter
2007-08: Bayern M. Real madrid Manchester United Inter
2008-09: Wolfsburg Barcelona Manchester United Inter
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Most times won: Bayern M. (7/11), R.Madrid and Barcelona tied (4/11), Manchester U. (7/11), Inter (4/11)
The only other league that is as one sided as the Bundesliga is the Premier League.
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SempreSami
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Pfft, even funnier when they don't win it.
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