Why Zverev will beat Thiem

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Thiem is rightly the hot favourite. More experience in Major finals and has been unlucky facing two of the greatest ever in those finals. Like most i hope he wins.
Reasons to be optimistic for Zverev fans are:
1. No pressure of being favourite which will loosen him up and he may have a point to prove to critics panning his game
2. Thiem is so far back returning serve it should mean less double faults knowing Thiem will not hurt him off the return
3. Thiems best shots, the off FH and cross court BH go into Zverevs world class BH
4. Zverevs cross court BH into Thiems BH will get alot of errors out of Thiem if he pulls trigger on the DTL BH. Looks a great shot when he has time, when rushed it is likely to spring errors
5. Thiem looks like he gets pretty gassed in longer rallies, medvedev was not moving well but Zverev moves well and has got a plan B of push ball tennis where he just refuses to do anything with the ball. If Thiem is anxious he may pull the trigger early and make errors.

Zverev gave Thiem a 4hr battle in Australia in a SF. Thiem is bound to be feeling it mentally so do not be surprised to see Zverev win in 5.
 
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Beckerserve said:
Thiem is rightly the hot favourite. More experience in Major finals and has been unlucky facing two of the greatest ever in those finals. Like most i hope he wins.
Reasons to be optimistic for Zverev fans are:
1. No pressure of being favourite which will loosen him up and he may have a point to prove to critics panning his game
2. Thiem is so far back returning serve it should mean less double faults knowing Thiem will not hurt him off the return
3. Thiems best shots, the off FH and cross court BH go into Zverevs world class BH
4. Zverevs cross court BH into Thiems BH will get alot of errors out of Thiem if he pulls trigger on the DTL BH. Looks a great shot when he has time, when rushed it is likely to spring errors
5. Thiem looks like he gets pretty gassed in longer rallies, medvedev was not moving well but Zverev moves well and has got a plan B of push ball tennis where he just refuses to do anything with the ball. If Thiem is anxious he may pull the trigger early and make errors.

Zverev gave Thiem a 4hr battle in Australia in a SF. Thiem is bound to be feeling it mentally so do not be surprised to see Zverev win in 5.
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Great post. I needed this because I couldnt really see how Alexi could hurt Thiem, based on how Thiem simply overpowered Medvedev in the semi.
I would love to see Zverev serve and volley a good bit in the final. When Thiem is standing in New Jersey to return serve, there's no way Zverev could fail with that strategy (even with his questionable net game.) He'd better be prepared to run a lot on Thiem's service games, so if he can play efficient on his own serve and make Thiem hit 6 winners per point on his service games, he'd be in a great position, especially if this goes the distance.
Of course, this is all easier said than done. Pressure will be on both of them: Zverev because he's always the pessimist on court, and Thiem because he's the favorite.

It's gonna be good, that's for sure!
 
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Thiem looked injured in set 3. That's why Zverev can beat Thiem.

But his level this tournament was worse than a winner of ATP 250.

If Thiem turns up healthy, it will resemble 2004 USO F if their form remains same.That's how bad Zverev was in his SF in first 2 sets.
 
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Beckerserve said:
Zverev gave Thiem a 4hr battle in Australia in a SF. Thiem is bound to be feeling it mentally so do not be surprised to see Zverev win in 5.
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I don't think anyone will be surprised by that.
Their AO match was close enough for this to go either way.
And Zverev looks fitter than Thiem.
 
r2473

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If Zverev plays the way he’s capable, it will be a very tight match. But if his grand slam history and his form in the last 2 matches is any indication, he’s going to be very tight, play like garbage and get embarrassed.
 
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NADALalot said:
I don't think anyone will be surprised by that.
Their AO match was close enough for this to go either way.
And Zverev looks fitter than Thiem.
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That is what has astonished me. Thiem, the fittest guy on tour and the strongest looks spent. Could not believe it. Glad u agree as most on here think tomorrow will be a blowout
 
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One thing is for sure it would be very weird if after tomorrow Zverev becomes 1-0 in slam finals while Thiem becomes 0-4. :oops: o_O
 
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Beckerserve said:
Thiem is rightly the hot favourite. More experience in Major finals and has been unlucky facing two of the greatest ever in those finals. Like most i hope he wins.
Reasons to be optimistic for Zverev fans are:
1. No pressure of being favourite which will loosen him up and he may have a point to prove to critics panning his game
2. Thiem is so far back returning serve it should mean less double faults knowing Thiem will not hurt him off the return
3. Thiems best shots, the off FH and cross court BH go into Zverevs world class BH
4. Zverevs cross court BH into Thiems BH will get alot of errors out of Thiem if he pulls trigger on the DTL BH. Looks a great shot when he has time, when rushed it is likely to spring errors
5. Thiem looks like he gets pretty gassed in longer rallies, medvedev was not moving well but Zverev moves well and has got a plan B of push ball tennis where he just refuses to do anything with the ball. If Thiem is anxious he may pull the trigger early and make errors.

Zverev gave Thiem a 4hr battle in Australia in a SF. Thiem is bound to be feeling it mentally so do not be surprised to see Zverev win in 5.
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Beckerserve said:
That is what has astonished me. Thiem, the fittest guy on tour and the strongest looks spent. Could not believe it. Glad u agree as most on here think tomorrow will be a blowout
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Thiem will try to wear down Zverev in long baseline rallies. Basically Nadal him into the ground...
Zverev will want to play quick points on his serve and steal breaks when Thiem self-destructs.

I predict the match will go 5 sets and Zverev wins...
 
oldmanfan

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Nadalgaenger said:
FWIW:
Zverev has only faced Thiem in one non 250 final. Here's what happened:
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The thing is, that Z was in immense form. The Thiem in the SF was in great form too, but that Thiem didn't show up in the finals against Z. And iirc, Z was unbroken throughout that Madrid tournament, not even once. And Z's serve throughout the whole tournament was world class. For reference, PCB broke Z 7 times in the SF of this USO. Aything is possible, but a LOT has to go right for Z to pull off this win.
 
Backspin1183

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I'm kidding of course, but despite Thiem being the better player, Zverev has been more clutch in finals. I don't recall Zverev losing many finals. He's beaten Djokovic multiple times, Federer, Thiem himself, and quite a few others. Even took Nadal to 3 sets in Rome final. So, I wouldn't be shocked with his win either. Thiem however is the better player right now and it would be a shame if he loses this final too.
 
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In finals, the odds are always 50/50. No one reaches a slam final by accident. Both have some physical issues though. Zverev played too many 5 setters, Thiem is injured. I like them both so may the better (luckier) player on the day win.
 
Krish872007

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Backspin1183 said:
I'm kidding of course, but despite Thiem being the better player, Zverev has been more clutch in finals. I don't recall Zverev losing many finals. He's beaten Djokovic multiple times, Federer, Thiem himself, and quite a few others. Even took Nadal to 3 sets in Rome final. So, I wouldn't be shocked with his win either. Thiem however is the better player right now and it would be a shame if he loses this final too.
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On the flip side Thiem has the Slam final experience and leads 7-2 (3-0 in Slams), so he may settle a bit quicker
Look out if Zverev starts serving like he did in the fifth set of the semi-final though
 
burma_shave

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Even if Zverev plays out of his skin Thiem should still have the class to prevail in best of 5 sets. The draw has been so kind to Zverev, he's probably a bit underdone.

But in a way a Zverev win would be a fitting end to this wonky USO.
 
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one thing which will go against zverev is thiem is finally relieved that he is not playing a GOAT candidate in the final and knows that there will be opportunities for him even if he has a bad day which is highly unlikely given how he is playing........zverev has to serve big all day if he has to have a chance........
 
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oldmanfan said:
The thing is, that Z was in immense form. The Thiem in the SF was in great form too, but that Thiem didn't show up in the finals against Z. And iirc, Z was unbroken throughout that Madrid tournament, not even once. And Z's serve throughout the whole tournament was world class. For reference, PCB broke Z 7 times in the SF of this USO. Aything is possible, but a LOT has to go right for Z to pull off this win.
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I think Thiem is MUCH stronger mentally than then. Physically too. Zverev probably weaker.
 
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Krish872007 said:
On the flip side Thiem has the Slam final experience and leads 7-2 (3-0 in Slams), so he may settle a bit quicker
Look out if Zverev starts serving like he did in the fifth set of the semi-final though
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Zverev can dominate matches when serving but can also be dominated if serve lets him down
 
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