BounceHitBounceHit
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Was it, by chance, Luxilon Big Banger Ace 18? If so, that is my favorite poly. I LOVED it in my Euro HPS 6.0 95's.
Soft, spinny, NEVER breaks.....well almost never. CC
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Was it, by chance, Luxilon Big Banger Ace 18? If so, that is my favorite poly. I LOVED it in my Euro HPS 6.0 95's.
Soft, spinny, NEVER breaks.....well almost never. CC
BreakPoint
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Nope, it's Pacific X-Force 18g. This is what the previous owner strung it with. I was almost afraid to hit with it and thought of cutting it out and restringing it before even trying it knowing what poly has done to my elbow in the past. But out of curiosity I decided to take a chance and hit with it and I have to say I was more than pleasantly surprised.Was it, by chance, Luxilon Big Banger Ace 18? If so, that is my favorite poly. I LOVED it in my Euro HPS 6.0 95's.
CC
couch
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Nope, it's Pacific X-Force 18g. This is what the previous owner strung it with. I was almost afraid to hit with it and thought of cutting it out and restringing it before even trying it knowing what poly has done to my elbow in the past. But out of curiosity I decided to take a chance and hit with it and I have to say I was more than pleasantly surprised.
Man, BP liking a poly string? Next thing you know he'll be using a Pure Drive.
Sorry BP, I couldn't resist.
BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
I'll like it until my arm falls off, that is. :-( I could definitely feel more stress on my arm and shoulder during and after the session. So eventually, I'll probably grow to hate it. :-oMan, BP liking a poly string? Next thing you know he'll be using a Pure Drive.
Sorry BP, I couldn't resist.
Hey, if I didn't care about permanently destroying my arm, I'd still be using the stiff, light, and extra long Head Ti.Fire Tour Edition. I played great with that thing, but eventually my arm surrendered so I had to move to something heavier, flexier, and shorter.
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
Nope, it's Pacific X-Force 18g. This is what the previous owner strung it with. I was almost afraid to hit with it and thought of cutting it out and restringing it before even trying it knowing what poly has done to my elbow in the past. But out of curiosity I decided to take a chance and hit with it and I have to say I was more than pleasantly surprised.
That stuff volleys nicely for a poly, and isn't terrible off the ground either.
Broke in like 20 mins tho.
J
Hey guys,
I am the equipment manager and general flunky for my son (17) who will play D-1 tennis beginning in the fall of 2008. He currently uses the N6.1, 16x18 but he will probably make the change to the K90 sometime early next year. He has already demoed the frame and everything is to his liking. Of course he looks to me to provide him with the ideal strings for his frames.
His game is what you would expect, heavy forehand with a 1HBH, likes to get to the net but volleys are not a large part of his game. Serves a flat no 1 and a kicker no 2. Backhand slice is an important aspect of his game and one of the big selling points of the K90. Strings that compliment the serve, heavy forehand and return of serve are critical. He is a string breaker with polys breaking at about the 2.5 hour mark with his N6.1. I plan on buying only 3 frames so string durability is important.
He currently uses a 1.25mm co-poly at 58lbs. I have tried various other strings including poly/syngut hybrids but I keep going back to the all poly stringbed as it seems to have more bite. Cost is an issue although he will get free strings at college-mostly technifibre pro red and he doesn't like that string so I will probably be sending strings to their stringer.
I really hate making a frame change as it seems to take 3 or 4 months to come up with an adequate set-up and thats one reason he will make the change early next year. So I am asking fellow K90 users for advice. I would really like to stay away from hybrids and go with one string-if possible. But I am open-minded. And since K90 users are the most serious and knowledgeable players I know your advice will be good.
Thanks for your help.
I am the equipment manager and general flunky for my son (17) who will play D-1 tennis beginning in the fall of 2008. He currently uses the N6.1, 16x18 but he will probably make the change to the K90 sometime early next year. He has already demoed the frame and everything is to his liking. Of course he looks to me to provide him with the ideal strings for his frames.
His game is what you would expect, heavy forehand with a 1HBH, likes to get to the net but volleys are not a large part of his game. Serves a flat no 1 and a kicker no 2. Backhand slice is an important aspect of his game and one of the big selling points of the K90. Strings that compliment the serve, heavy forehand and return of serve are critical. He is a string breaker with polys breaking at about the 2.5 hour mark with his N6.1. I plan on buying only 3 frames so string durability is important.
He currently uses a 1.25mm co-poly at 58lbs. I have tried various other strings including poly/syngut hybrids but I keep going back to the all poly stringbed as it seems to have more bite. Cost is an issue although he will get free strings at college-mostly technifibre pro red and he doesn't like that string so I will probably be sending strings to their stringer.
I really hate making a frame change as it seems to take 3 or 4 months to come up with an adequate set-up and thats one reason he will make the change early next year. So I am asking fellow K90 users for advice. I would really like to stay away from hybrids and go with one string-if possible. But I am open-minded. And since K90 users are the most serious and knowledgeable players I know your advice will be good.
Thanks for your help.
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
^^^ He sounds like me with a one hander instead of a 2.
I play ALU Rough at 58lbs. And plenty of it.
For competition players I really believe it is critical to pick something you like and stick with it. Recreational players can tinker until their heart's content (Except CC who needs to put a quarter in the jar everytime he hits with something other than a K90)
Good luck with that only buying three racquets thing. I have gone through 5 stringjobs on a good weekend, and your son is only gonna get bigger and stronger.
J
I play ALU Rough at 58lbs. And plenty of it.
For competition players I really believe it is critical to pick something you like and stick with it. Recreational players can tinker until their heart's content (Except CC who needs to put a quarter in the jar everytime he hits with something other than a K90)
Good luck with that only buying three racquets thing. I have gone through 5 stringjobs on a good weekend, and your son is only gonna get bigger and stronger.
J
I'm gonna have to talk to the Wilson guys. They need to give me a deal.
ALU rough is pricey but I guess you feel its worth it.
jasonbourne
Professional
Pusher, from what you wrote it seems the most sensible next step is to try 1.30mm of the co-poly he currently uses.
nickb
Banned
tzinc
Semi-Pro
What brand and make are these racquets?
BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
Agreed, but the key words there are "for a poly". It's still nowhere near as good for volleys as a multi or even a mono syn gut are.
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
Oh, no bout a doubt it. That is exactly why I said, what I said. I stepped up to the service line to take some volleys and was like, "Hey! Not bad!"
I would mostly reccomend the string to doubles players looking for a little more durability. Possibly older touch and feel singles players looking for a little more durability.
I would say it is halfway between ALU, and a good multi as far as volleying goes. Better than most all polys, worse that most all synthetics (I am sure there must be some kind of syn gut out there that really bites even if I haven't played it)
J
J011yroger
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Craig,
You would have been proud of me, I hit a volley yesterday. There was much oohing and ahhing by all present watching our 2 on 1 net play drills. And a shocked and stunned look on both opposing baseline players faces.
J
You would have been proud of me, I hit a volley yesterday. There was much oohing and ahhing by all present watching our 2 on 1 net play drills. And a shocked and stunned look on both opposing baseline players faces.
J
BounceHitBounceHit
Legend
I am proud!!
Now, let's work on that transition game. With your big topsin forehand all you need to do is learn to hit it deep with pace 'through' the court to your opponents backhand, and then toss in a 'curling' acute angle cross-court shot that 'runs away' on the other side to keep 'em guessing. With those kind of approaches, volleying gets MUCH easier.
Best,
CC
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
With those kind of approaches, volleying gets MUCH easier.
Oh I don't count those. I only count the absurd scrape off shoelaces or full extension dive ones. Ya know, the ones actual net players would be proud of. Anybody can come in and knock off floaters.
J
Klatu Verata Necktie
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I may be moving away from my K90 due to bicep and tendon pain. I believe it may have something to do with the stiffness coupled with a small head size and poly strings. Anyone else have issues with arm pain while using the K90?
BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
I would say before ditching the racquet, first try switching to a multi or natural gut from poly and give it a try. I suspect it's more likely the poly strings than the frame itself that's giving you the arm trouble. I got golfer's elbow from using my nCode 90 with a poly hybrid. Once I ditched the poly my arm has never felt better, even though it's the same frame.
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
The Bicep pain is odd, I would take two weeks off, and let yourself fully heal, let everything calm down, then give it another go. If you were saying wrist/elbow then I would say to ditch the poly, and soften up the stringbed.
Friend of mine dumped his N90s and picked up some AG200s because the wilsons were taking a toll on his arm.
Either way, hoping you feel better soon.
J
BounceHitBounceHit
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BounceHitBounceHit
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Have you tried the Mojo set up? I've never had arm pain with my K90. CC
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Klatu Verata Necktie
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I tried stringing with a multi, and while the pain disappeared, performance was simply not the same. My solution seems to be stringing old flexible Prestiges with poly string. That way, I can continue to use the poly string that I love so much without suffering arm pain.
Klatu Verata Necktie
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I haven't tried the Mojo setup. I don't even know what that means. If that setup includes poly string, then I may give it a shot because I didn't like the K90 when I strung it with multifilliment string.
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
My stringer was complaining about how much my racquets sucked to string, last week when I dropped 6 of them off.
I told him to count his blessings since I was very close to playing prestiege mids instead of the wilsons. He looked me in the eye and said in a quite serious tone "If you ever dropped 10 prestiege mids off here for full poly stringjobs I would never speak to you again."
J
BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
The "Mojo" set-up is Klip Legend natural gut in the mains and IsoSpeed Pro Classic (a multi) in the crosses. No poly at all.
Klatu Verata Necktie
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I think any stringer would break a sweat when they saw you walk through the door with 10 of any type of racquet
Seriously, the old Prestiges with full poly setups are very comfortable and arm friendly (I string them at 50 lbs). There is also no lack of power.
Klatu Verata Necktie
Hall of Fame
I won't pass judgement on that setup since I haven't tried it yet, but I don't think I'd like it since I like the feel and performance of polyester string.
BounceHitBounceHit
Legend
You might be pleasantly suprised. You get the 'poly-like' spin and 'drop out' with a MUCH softer, forgiving 'feel'. I've tried using ALU 16 Rough in the crosses and it really shrinks the sweetspot in comparison to the Isospeed.
CC
Klatu Verata Necktie
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You might be pleasantly suprised. You get the 'poly-like' spin and 'drop out' with a MUCH softer, forgiving 'feel'. I've tried using ALU 16 Rough in the crosses and it really shrinks the sweetspot in comparison to the Isospeed.
I may give it a shot, although I tend not to like using poly in the cross and soft string in the mains because I don't usually get enough of the poly feel that way.
BounceHitBounceHit
Legend
I love a full poly job (BB Ace 18 or ALU 17) in my K90, but I swear it gives me 'twinges' I don't normally experience and I therefore fear it.
CC
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Hey Craig,
This if off-topic but I've tried to email you with no response. Would you happen to still have those Kneissl Red Stars for sale? Thanks! kevdawg40@hotmail.com
This if off-topic but I've tried to email you with no response. Would you happen to still have those Kneissl Red Stars for sale?
Thanks! kevdawg40@hotmail.com
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
Just had my favorite N90 specd out so that we could make all of my Ks exactly like it.
Swingweight was....
377
Give Travlerajm a cigar!
J
I agree with Craig A Clark, that you might like the mojo setup. I just had one of my racquets strung that way. The big advantages are the spin and the power. Pretty much every drop-shot I hit in my tourney last weekend came off as a winner. It just had tremendous backspin. I was really suprised. I will never use any string setup that doesn't give me tremendous spin potential, and the mojo setup definately met my standards.
BounceHitBounceHit
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Klatu Verata Necktie
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I might give it a shot, but what would be the advantages over a full poly setup?
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
Klatu Verata Necktie
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To be honest, no. This thread is over 100 pages long. Where would I find your review?
Hey CC I have been struggling with the grip size so decided to use one of your ideas and removed the leather and put on two wilson pro overgrips. man what a difference I did add some lead back to the handle so now it is 349Grm and 8 points hl but the grips size is perfect now and the serves are back yippee. for some reason that small bit of differnce lets me sanp into it alot better.
BounceHitBounceHit
Legend
That's exactly what I found. I use the lead around the handle at 10 cm from the butt cap to offset what I lose when removing the grip. I also add lead at 3/9 to make mine 5pts HL. Best, CC
BounceHitBounceHit
Legend
Just so folks know, it is important to offset the weight of the grip with lead tape if you try it this way. Otherwise the balance will be WAY off.
BestCC
BounceHitBounceHit
Legend
Agreed. AND you get more 'feedback' from the frame. Best, CC
BounceHitBounceHit
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OK, quick update: after a pronlonged flirtation with the AK90 and a 'polarized' set up I am back with the US K90. I've added just a smidgeon of lead at 3/9 and as so configured (sans grip, and w/ lead tape at 10cm from the buttcap so as to offset the attendant weight loss) mine now tip the scales at 349gms and balance 5 pts HL. The 5 gms I 'shaved' from the handle makes them even more 'fluid' feeling to me when I swing out, and I am hitting a 'heavier' ball (or so Bolt, and others, tell me!). The serve is clearly packing more punch. I'd be willing to bet the SW is still right around 335. Hope this report will help other K90 addicts, er, I mean aficionados. CC
CC
movdqa
Talk Tennis Guru
I felt that I should have went with a 4 1/2 instead of a 4 5/8 on the K90. I bought 4 1/2 and 4 5/8 Redondos and prefer the 4 5/8 Redondo. So yes, it appears to me that the K90s handles are big. In contrast, I found that the handles on my old Dunlops run similar or smaller than the Redondos.
CC that is strange. Mine are 349 and 8pts hl? I am having some major shoulder issues right now. Old softball player who wishies he had never seen a softball now haha. I even tried switching back to the redondo to see if it would help but no dice guess a trip to the ortho is in order.
adlis
Professional
OK, enough of this rubbish and let's get back to the K90.
And if you think that's bollocks, then don't be such a wanker and get yourself a girl to shag the next time you're feeling randy, OK mate?
wtf no one reported this?
