World tour final players and seeding almost confirmed.

[Nadal_King]

1. Alcaraz
2. Nadal
3. Tsitsipas
4.Ruud
5. Medvedev
6. Felix
7. Rublev
8. Djokovic
More or less this would be the lineup, Djokovic can only end in 5/6 if Felix loses first match in paris, Rublev loses early and he wins it all so it looks unlikely….with this one of the groups will very loaded like imagine Nadal, Tsitsipas, Medvedev, Djokovic, it would be a crazy one with each players maybe getting there share of wins. Also Djokovic vs Nadal/Alcaraz is guaranteed in round robin. It promises to be an amazing tournament much better than last year’s. Also I really fancy nadal chances to be in semis if Djokovic is not in his group as I think Ruud, Tsitsipas, Rublev these are some players I would surely back a fit and in good form Rafa to beat even at indoors

 

[Tennfan123]

They should swop Sinner for Rublev.

 

[UnforcedTerror]

Djokovic and Bull in one group plz

 

[Nadal_King]

Djokovic and Bull in one group plz

If that happens it would be happening in first 2 days.

 

[Nadal_King]

5/6 are way too strong than 3/4 in these players. 7/8 is perhaps the biggest gap one could have as everyone would love Rublev in there group and hate to get Djokovic

 

[AgassiSuperSlam11]

Don't know if FAA is turning the corner but he has recently won 3 Indoor HC titles and can make a run at Paris Masters and the ATP Finals. Medvedev is getting back into form at Indoor HC and is also a contender. Nole having won Paris Indoors 6 times is possibly the biggest favorite. Possible matchups would like to see in either tournament:
Djokovic-Nadal, Nadal-Alcaraz, and Djokovic-FAA. I would settle for 2 out of the 3 possible matchups.

 

[Nadal_King]

Don't know if FAA is turning the corner but he has recently won 3 Indoor HC titles and can make a run at Paris Masters and the ATP Finals. Medvedev is getting back into form at Indoor HC and is also a contender. Nole having won Paris Indoors 6 times is possibly the biggest favorite. Possible matchups would like to see in either tournament:
Djokovic-Nadal, Nadal-Alcaraz, and Djokovic-FAA. I would settle for 2 out of the 3 possible matchups.

Djokovic- nadal and Djokovic- FAA is a possibility surely in next few weeks but Nadal- Alcaraz unlikely to be honest as both either out of form or coming from layoff and there 1 and 2 seeding doesn’t help the cause

 

[AgassiSuperSlam11]

Djokovic- nadal and Djokovic- FAA is a possibility surely in next few weeks but Nadal- Alcaraz unlikely to be honest as both either out of form or coming from layoff and there 1 and 2 seeding doesn’t help the cause

Interesting to see which seeding format they use. I think the last 2 years the groups were broken up as 1-4-5-8 vs 2-3-6-7 (NBA and NHL used this format for years). However, in 2019 it was 1-4-6-7 vs 2-3-5-8 (this would have Joker and Bull in the same RR).

I agree having Alcaraz and Nadal play an indoor HC Final is unlikely.

 

[Nadal_King]

Interesting to see which seeding format they use. I think the last 2 years the groups were broken up as 1-4-5-8 vs 2-3-6-7 (NBA and NHL used this format for years). However, in 2019 it was 1-4-6-7 vs 2-3-5-8 (this would have Joker and Bull in the same RR).

I agree having Alcaraz and Nadal play an indoor HC Final is unlikely.

It’s usually random but this time implications are hige due to Djokovic and Rublev being 7 and 8 (mosy likely it will be the case) which would just make one group too heavy I feel

 

[Bartelby]

Sinner would be nice, but he is young and will have plenty of opportunities to play the WTF.

 

[mahatma]

Interesting to see which seeding format they use. I think the last 2 years the groups were broken up as 1-4-5-8 vs 2-3-6-7 (NBA and NHL used this format for years). However, in 2019 it was 1-4-6-7 vs 2-3-5-8 (this would have Joker and Bull in the same RR).

I agree having Alcaraz and Nadal play an indoor HC Final is unlikely.

Isn't it round robin and semis will be there and Nadal Alcaraz can meet there.

 

[Lauren_Girl']

1. Alcaraz
2. Nadal
3. Tsitsipas
4.Ruud
5. Medvedev
6. Felix
7. Rublev
8. Djokovic
More or less this would be the lineup, Djokovic can only end in 5/6 if Felix loses first match in paris, Rublev loses early and he wins it all so it looks unlikely….with this one of the groups will very loaded like imagine Nadal, Tsitsipas, Medvedev, Djokovic, it would be a crazy one with each players maybe getting there share of wins. Also Djokovic vs Nadal/Alcaraz is guaranteed in round robin. It promises to be an amazing tournament much better than last year’s. Also I really fancy nadal chances to be in semis if Djokovic is not in his group as I think Ruud, Tsitsipas, Rublev these are some players I would surely back a fit and in good form Rafa to beat even at indoors

Good for Djokovic if this is the lineup. The biggest threats for him right now on this surface are Medvedev and Auger-Aliassime. He will only have 1 in his group. I don't see him losing to Tsitsipas/Ruud and he'd be big favorite against Alcaraz/Nadal too (on this surface, I mean)... The danger will be if he's 2nd of his group and faces the winner of the other group. That's what happened with Zverev last year and Thiem in 2020. Ideally, he'll face Nadal or Alcaraz in the SF, and Medvedev/FAA wear each other down in the other SF...

 

[AgassiSuperSlam11]

Isn't it round robin and semis will be there and Nadal Alcaraz can meet there.

One will need to win their group and the other needs to be second place in their group. It's possible; but difficult seeing Alcaraz making it to a SF or a Final with Med, Djokovic, Nadal, and FAA all likely playing the ATP Final (barring any injury or W/O). Will wait and see as stranger things as happened. Andre Agassi had no business winning Wimbledon that included Creeping Red Fescue mixture grass and it happened.

 

[ChrisRF]

Interesting to see which seeding format they use. I think the last 2 years the groups were broken up as 1-4-5-8 vs 2-3-6-7 (NBA and NHL used this format for years). However, in 2019 it was 1-4-6-7 vs 2-3-5-8 (this would have Joker and Bull in the same RR).

They never use a certain seeding format right from the beginning. It's a draw. One of 1/2 is drawn into each group, just like one of 3/4, one of 5/6 and one of 7/8. So it could theoretically be a group with 1/3/5/7.

 

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[Fiero425]

1. Alcaraz
2. Nadal
3. Tsitsipas
4.Ruud
5. Medvedev
6. Felix
7. Rublev
8. Djokovic
More or less this would be the lineup, Djokovic can only end in 5/6 if Felix loses first match in paris, Rublev loses early and he wins it all so it looks unlikely….with this one of the groups will very loaded like imagine Nadal, Tsitsipas, Medvedev, Djokovic, it would be a crazy one with each players maybe getting there share of wins. Also Djokovic vs Nadal/Alcaraz is guaranteed in round robin. It promises to be an amazing tournament much better than last year’s. Also I really fancy nadal chances to be in semis if Djokovic is not in his group as I think Ruud, Tsitsipas, Rublev these are some players I would surely back a fit and in good form Rafa to beat even at indoors

You can dream I guess!

 

[AgassiSuperSlam11]

They never use a certain seeding format right from the beginning. It's a draw. One of 1/2 is drawn into each group, just like one of 3/4, one of 5/6 and one of 7/8. So it could theoretically be a group with 1/3/5/7.

I take your word on the seeding process. Do you know which firms provide the independent audits and witness the drawing process? I only say this as many feel that Djokovic-Nadal facing each other 10 times at the FO had many claiming the draw was "fixed." This was the allegation in 2022 when Nadal, Djokovic, Alcaraz, and Zverev were all in the same side of the draw. Who does the independent auditing for transparency to quash these conspiracy theories? Reminiscent of how state lotteries have audits to dispel fixed lottery allegations.

 

[ChrisRF]

I take your word on the seeding process. Do you know which firms provide the independent audits and witness the drawing process? I only say this as many feel that Djokovic-Nadal facing each other 10 times at the FO had many claiming the draw was "fixed." This was the allegation in 2022 when Nadal, Djokovic, Alcaraz, and Zverev were all in the same side of the draw. Who does the independent auditing for transparency to quash these conspiracy theories? Reminiscent of how state lotteries have audits to dispel fixed lottery allegations.

The draw for the WTF is public. There are 4 pots, all with 2 names in it as I said. Then there is someone to make the draw. That's usually either a local tennis player or a celebrity person who's slightly associated to tennis. At least twice I watched that very short "ceremony" in the past. If it's fixed, then such a rather random person must be involved in it, which is unlikely.

 

[Nadal_Django]

First group
Alcaraz
Ruud
FAA
Rublev

Second group
Nadal
Medvedev
Tsitsipas
Djokovic

 

[Nadal_King]

First group
Alcaraz
Ruud
FAA
Rublev

Second group
Nadal
Medvedev
Tsitsipas
Djokovic

2nd group there can be a scenario with Nadal-Djokovic-Medvedev having 2 wins each

 

[platypus50]

Hopefully Djokovic and Nadal are in the same group - if that is the case, then the match LX between them most likely happens here (could also happen in Paris Masters SF but don't think it will)

 

[NAS]

Interesting to see which seeding format they use. I think the last 2 years the groups were broken up as 1-4-5-8 vs 2-3-6-7 (NBA and NHL used this format for years). However, in 2019 it was 1-4-6-7 vs 2-3-5-8 (this would have Joker and Bull in the same RR).

I agree having Alcaraz and Nadal play an indoor HC Final is unlikely.

1 and 2 are in other half so is 3,4 and 5,6 then 7,8.
No fix method.
But this year because of Djokovic low rank means anybody getting Novak will make the group uneven

 

[Wurm]

I was looking at the singles race earlier today and was surprised to see Tsitsipas at #3.

I guess because he did quite poorly at the slams, after the SF at the AO, and has a 2-5 record in finals this year it's felt like he's had a worse year than he's actually had - 7 finals, after all, and one of the two wins was a Masters Maybe it's because Alcaraz has gone by him as well.

 

[jl809]

Djokovic and Bull in one group plz

 

[Sudacafan]

Almost confirmed does not mean confirmed.
It’s like being almost pregnant.

 

[BeatlesFan]

They should swop Sinner for Rublev.

How about Ruud? He'll lose every match in the RR.