Your best Pressureless balls
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Taveren
Professional
Cool, will check those Tretorn Micro-X. Keep seeing them being recommended in other posts. Are there any other options to consider aside from Tretorn and Penn Pressureless?
2forehands
Rookie
Another vote for tretorn micro-x (great in the winter too). I have also tried their micro-x comfort but found them too soft after a while.
topspn
Legend
tretorn micro-x although i'm not a fan of pressure less balls
JBH
Rookie
Tretorn Micro-X.
However, if your intended purpose is individual practice, there is no reason. either performance or financial, to not use several cans of standard balls until they are worn and/or flat.
Pressureless balls real advantage is in a ball machine, where even pressure (or hardness in this case) and the ability to not degrade with time when not used, and the need to have a large number in use at one time, make them a potentially superior solution.
However, if your intended purpose is individual practice, there is no reason. either performance or financial, to not use several cans of standard balls until they are worn and/or flat.
Pressureless balls real advantage is in a ball machine, where even pressure (or hardness in this case) and the ability to not degrade with time when not used, and the need to have a large number in use at one time, make them a potentially superior solution.
I second this suggestion. If you want pressureless balls for ball-machine use, then Tretorn Micro-X is the best. But the trade-off for this ball is that it feels harder to hit than regular balls. So it only has its place in ball-machine use only.
If you just want balls for practice/serve, use regular balls. If you don't want them to go flat too soon, just get the yellow tennis ball saver cans to store them in.
Dedans Penthouse
Legend
New England Patriots'
Not at all. Here's why: there are 2 aspect to ball degradation: 1. Ball felt wear, 2. Ball bounce.
Pressureless ball only solves 1 aspect, ball bounce. It still wears just the same. When the felt is worn, it's still playable but it'll be lighter and the ball may bounce a little higher due to the lighter weight.
You want to practice with balls that feel the same as those you use for match play. If you can keep the regular balls from going flat by using the yellow tennis ball saver cans, why would you want to resort to pressureless tennis balls?
Keep in mind that the best pressureless tennis ball, Tretorn Micro-X, feels a lot harder to hit, and bounce a little higher when its felt is worn out. OK, you may have to put up with these disadvantages because you need hundreds of them for ball machines. But if you don't have a ball machine, why put up with their disadvantages? Then when you play matches with pressurized balls, you'll get all screwed up because you don't get the same feel you're used to with the balls you practice with.
For matches, open up a new can of ball. When you're done, keep them in a ball saver can to preserve the pressure for reuse later in practice. If you like to practice or serve with more than just 3 balls, then buy as many ball saver cans as you like.
I serve and practice with a small basket of 36 balls like the Mini BallPort basket, and I use a dozen of the yellow tennis ball saver cans to keep them from going flat. It's not too much of a hassle to open and close a dozen of these cans each time. You don't have to keep 36 balls if you don't want. You can just keep a dozen (4 cans) or 2 dozens (8 cans) only.
Whenever I open up a new can of balls for match play, I replace the 3 oldest, most worn balls in my group of 36 with the 3 newest balls.
Probably not worth trying to use pressureless balls for rallies with a partner. People complain whenever I use Tretorn Micro-X pressureless balls for warming up before a match. I like them for my ball machine but have given up trying to use them in friendly games.
Taveren
Professional
Thanks frank52, I will stick to presurrized balls. I just thought that the more premium pressureless balls would play similar to pressurized ones. Seems I was being too stingy haha.
QuadCam
Professional
I found the tretorn balls to feel harder on impact and also they completely flatten out on hard impacts. You could hear it on impact. The moment of impact would make a weird sound when hit hard. I also found these balls to negatively affect tennis elbow pain.
I bought them to try out..... won't buy them again.
I bought them to try out..... won't buy them again.
I use to buy the Tretorn ones as well. I thought they were way too hard and after a while using them they get even harder, like a rock. I've been using the Penn pressureless ones in the big plastic tub TW sells. I like them a lot better and they are not as expensive as the Tretorn ones either. I use the Penn pressureless two to three times a week and they last me all summer. I normally hit about 600-800 balls during each session.
I get where you're coming from and what you are saying but there is no way I want to unscrew and rescrew more than 2 cans of those ballsavers. I just use old balls in my ball port for serves anyways so not a big deal. The two ballsavers for hitting.
Chotobaka
Hall of Fame
skydog
Professional
Tretorn Micro X.
Bought them for my ball machine, but end up using them all the time for practice and for recreational play. Now, I am not a league player, so if getting the exact feel of your regular league ball is important to you it may be to your benefit to go with the ball saver method.
I started with Penn pressure less but turned those into dog toys. They are not in the same league as the Tretorns. I found the Penns harder and they tended to flatten out more than the Tretorns or regular balls. The Tretorns do play a bit heavier than pressured balls, but are a lot closer to pressured balls in feel than the Penns in my opinion.
You can buy Tretorns in cans of three to try out and experiment with. We did this for a couple of hits to compare with the Penns and then bought 150 of the Tretorns once we found that we preferred them.
Bought them for my ball machine, but end up using them all the time for practice and for recreational play. Now, I am not a league player, so if getting the exact feel of your regular league ball is important to you it may be to your benefit to go with the ball saver method.
I started with Penn pressure less but turned those into dog toys. They are not in the same league as the Tretorns. I found the Penns harder and they tended to flatten out more than the Tretorns or regular balls. The Tretorns do play a bit heavier than pressured balls, but are a lot closer to pressured balls in feel than the Penns in my opinion.
You can buy Tretorns in cans of three to try out and experiment with. We did this for a couple of hits to compare with the Penns and then bought 150 of the Tretorns once we found that we preferred them.
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Artengo TB160. I would buy Tretorn Micro X in the future. During time I switched from playing with pressurized balls to playing with pressureless ones. I would say I found now pressurized balls, as a piece of crap, which looses it's characteristics too fast. It' s easier to play with pressurized balls once you play regularly with pressureless.
speedysteve
Legend
Babolat Academy Gold for me.
Tretorn plays like a rock. Too hard and they do not make you hit better when you switch over to regular pressurized tennis balls. IMO.
SpinControl
Rookie
Avoid gamma if you have healed or healing injuries.
It caused shoulder and elbow pain / reinjury for me.
I switched to regular hd penns and use a corny keg to repressurize, and I don't feel pain after practice sessions with ball machine.
It caused shoulder and elbow pain / reinjury for me.
I switched to regular hd penns and use a corny keg to repressurize, and I don't feel pain after practice sessions with ball machine.
I used one of those re-pressurizing type cans some years back. It worked great.
Trinti/Trinti Pro balls or re-pressurizing. Trinti balls are limited by the felt, eventually they become too lively. Re-pressurizing takes extra equipment and effort.
Taveren
Professional
Tried the Wilson Trinity balls but did not liked them, one of the guys in our group created a pressurizing chamber made those stainless steel beer kegs and though the bounce is ok the feel of the ball on impact is off ( for me ).
So for my own tennis enjoyment, I have been buying either US Opens or Pro Penn Marathons.
So for my own tennis enjoyment, I have been buying either US Opens or Pro Penn Marathons.
Some players an insanely sensitive about how a ball plays. Normally they only like a fresh can of their favorite ball. Reusing games balls in the hopper works reasonably well if you play enough or if you have a good supply. Trinti/Trinti Pro is about the best you can find currently. Unless someone is testing something I don't know about... I am pretty sure you have already tested most and found them all not acceptable.
optic yellow
Legend
What did you not enjoy about the Triniti's? I disliked the no new ball smell and they were a bit hard right out of the carton but after that it was really satisfying not seeing them degrade for like 5-10x the time of a regular ball.
Taveren
Professional
It has been sometime since I tried the Wilson Trinitis but from what I can recall it was the feel on impact, I will probably try the pro version if I can find it online here in Cananda.
Sound is what bothers me most when it comes to classic Trinti balls. Feel improves a bit as you break them in, but totally understand that pov.
optic yellow
Legend
Feel I agree with buy I thought the sound was fine from the start. What do you think is missing or wrong with it?
Basically it sounds differently and I am conditioned by decades of experience to prefer the sound of standard balls. I would say a standard ball has a better pop sound, versus a crackle for the Trinti. I also find some Trinti balls bounce a little oddly during break-in. Every case a few will surprise me in how they bounce during break-in.
Pros tend not to need break-in.(or it is less noticeable) Less rubber more felt.(keeping weight about the same) Their might be some other minor changes. They should have a longer lifespan. I would love to see reasonably prices cases of Trinti Pro balls without all the extra packaging. Currently going through my cases of Trinti balls. Players seem to like the Pro's more. I think both are great for casual players.
optic yellow
Legend
There isn't quite that deep buckling sound with a Triniti I guess.
initialize
Hall of Fame
Honestly the SpinFire pressure less balls are the best I've ever used. Way better than Tretorn and Gamma pressureless.
They feel somewhat similar to the Triniti balls but because they're actually pressureless will last even longer than Triniti balls will
They feel somewhat similar to the Triniti balls but because they're actually pressureless will last even longer than Triniti balls will
speedysteve
Legend
I know what I would never buy!
Wilson Trinity Pressureless - awful!
Brand-new - felt harsh, made a bit of a 'puck' sound when hit.
Quite bouncy.
We both felt feel jarring vibrations esp on volleys.
They didn't improve with use either..
Groundstrokes there was no plush, even luxury feel good of a well struck stroke.
Best avoided.
Had to switch back to be Babolat Gold Academy after 1hr.
Ah that's better!
Wilson Trinity Pressureless - awful!
Brand-new - felt harsh, made a bit of a 'puck' sound when hit.
Quite bouncy.
We both felt feel jarring vibrations esp on volleys.
They didn't improve with use either..
Groundstrokes there was no plush, even luxury feel good of a well struck stroke.
Best avoided.
Had to switch back to be Babolat Gold Academy after 1hr.
Ah that's better!
I have used Diadem pressureless for the last two years (3-5 times per week) in my Proton and find they wear well and have a consistent bounce. I will throw a can of used balls (20-24 games) in the hopper and can tell no difference in bounce with the Diadem balls which are 3-4 months old.
optic yellow
Legend
felt worn Triniti's, which are more or less racquetballs
Haha I thought so too but the felt was all worn down so I couldn’t see any markings. Even even sounded like a racquetball
Westerwick
Rookie
Penn pressureless and Tretorn are not even in the same league. Tretorn is far superior and longer lasting. Diadems are very good, as are Triniti, but Triniti is relatively expensive. Gamma covers pill up and shred quickly, and Tourna tends to pill up, but does last well. I am very happy using up my older Tretorns and replacing them with Diadems.
Westerwick
Rookie
Trinitis have an interesting failure mode. Once you wear through most of the fuzz there is a white polyester fiber mesh over a thin layer of fuzz. The mesh wears through at points so you have a ball with white strings hanging all over it. Goes in the trash then. Won’t give either Trinitis or Tretorns to the dog since they make a real mess if they are torn apart, as she likes to do. She told me recently that Wilson U S Opens were her favorite since they are half wool and taste much better than pure polyester.
optic yellow
Legend
Of course you've gotten 50 hours of hitting out of them at that point so you hardly care...
