Zverev 2R USO 16 vs Coric Post Match Interview : Really Sore Loser !

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He's in denial. He admits that he looked at the draw and saw how open it was for him, then says the pressure had no role in the loss. His rabbit in the headlights approach when he was ahead on Coric's service games suggests that pressure did play a part in the loss. He was well aware that the draw had opened up the opportunity of a lifetime, but froze.
'pressure' obviously played a role here: it got his head swelling ! :eek:
(... swelling so much that he dared to wear this pathetically ridiculous outfit) :confused:

that and coric's good performance... in short, the 2 things he kinda denies in his interview ;)
 
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tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
Also Zed was a huge whiner yesterday. At one point when Coric challenged a call fairly immediately, he took offense and argues with Pascal Maria. When Pascal did not yield , he started conversing directly with Coric , putting him in an uncomfortable position . Coric has lots of respects for Zverev but cannot say the converse
 
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Deleted member 754093

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The thread is created by a Fedfan, who obvioulsy disliked Zver after the latter beat Fed.

Here is an example of being a really sore loser:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIjKephW0AAU4VR.jpg

So true! You tell 'em, sister! That is so why Fed is universally hated everywhere he goes. Always making excuses, always employing the same stubborn strategy, always receiving extra help from his box! The list goes on and on!
 

West Coast Ace

G.O.A.T.
Also Zed was a huge whiner yesterday. At one point when Coric challenged a call fairly immediately, he took offense and argues with Pascal Maria. When Pascal did not yield , he started conversing directly with Coric
That was not a good look; Coric took a reflex swing and as fast as he could signaled for the challenge. By that point in the match Zverev was really frustrated. I'll bet he apologized in the locker room for that. He just turned 20.

The typical TW piling on. Zverev is doing all the right things; working on his strength, bringing in Ferrero to compliment his father's coaching; I still expect him to make it to number 1 and win majors.

But great effort by Coric - he's was getting ripped on these boards too not that long ago. Down 0-30 in so many serve games; didn't buckle. And for those calling him a pusher, thanks for the laugh.

Next round: K Anderson - we'll see what Coric can do with him.
 

Fedinkum

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Nooooooo minborg :(
Gold....ahahhaahha
 

West Coast Ace

G.O.A.T.
It means he wants it. Good sign he is fired up and pissed. Better than just being blah. Nice win by coric. Hope the kid gets it together and gets into the quarters.
Exactly.
Sampras said a tough loss at the USO (to a much better player than Coric - Edberg) fueled him to work harder.
 

swordtennis

G.O.A.T.
Exactly.
Sampras said a tough loss at the USO (to a much better player than Coric - Edberg) fueled him to work harder.
Love it. Nice to see some fire in these young players bellies out there. All the worries about tennis dying usually never comes to fruition. Tennis seems to always sort things out. I think there will be a young big 5 sooner than later.
 

MLRoy

Hall of Fame
Even though I like him a lot -- he's not Berdych 2.0, this kid won't be choking in slam finals & will be in more than one -- I'm really glad he lost; especially to Coric. When ever the TV tennis bobbleheads talk someone up, like they've been doing this slam to him, it's a bad sign. M. Joe Fernandez can't do a broadcast NOW without mentioning "Serena Williams..." at least twice. (Does her husband manage the williams, and: "MADDIE" keys?!?!)

AZ, I've noticed the last couple weeks has the potential for growing a Federer-size ego. Before playing Sharapovlov a few weeks ago, during the pre-match interview he said he hopes "He [Denis] plays well". Kind of like he had the match in the bag, but hopes Denis doesn't embarrass himself, and puts up a good fight. And that won't help him or tennis. Now the last time I saw those two play, AZ won. They were very cordial to each other at the net. Not quite Joker "touchy-feely" but almost first base. Last night's handshake reminded me of the fish AggieRad handed Sabine after their Wimbledon 2013 semi.

Coric beating him now & again is good for both of them, tennis and me. I don't want another dominator like Federer or Nadal. I want a close rivalry between them, Shapavolov, Thiem, Kyrgios, and whomever else is in their league, so we can all enjoy even better quality tennis than previous years. Who's with me?! ;^)B
 

DRII

G.O.A.T.
Novak Djokovic disagrees with you. Also, I don't think Zverev's comments are terrible but he could have given his opponent more credit.
I wouldn't call Djokovic a 'graceful' loser.

perhaps an affable, lighthearted one; but not graceful.
 

DRII

G.O.A.T.
Even though I like him a lot -- he's not Berdych 2.0, this kid won't be choking in slam finals & will be in more than one -- I'm really glad he lost; especially to Coric. When ever the TV tennis bobbleheads talk someone up, like they've been doing this slam to him, it's a bad sign. M. Joe Fernandez can't do a broadcast NOW without mentioning "Serena Williams..." at least twice. (Does her husband manage the williams, and: "MADDIE" keys?!?!)

AZ, I've noticed the last couple weeks has the potential for growing a Federer-size ego. Before playing Sharapovlov a few weeks ago, during the pre-match interview he said he hopes "He [Denis] plays well". Kind of like he had the match in the bag, but hopes Denis doesn't embarrass himself, and puts up a good fight. And that won't help him or tennis. Now the last time I saw those two play, AZ won. They were very cordial to each other at the net. Not quite Joker "touchy-feely" but almost first base. Last night's handshake reminded me of the fish AggieRad handed Sabine after their Wimbledon 2013 semi.

Coric beating him now & again is good for both of them, tennis and me. I don't want another dominator like Federer or Nadal. I want a close rivalry between them, Shapavolov, Thiem, Kyrgios, and whomever else is in their league, so we can all enjoy even better quality tennis than previous years. Who's with me?! ;^)B
Coric and AZ must have a history.

maybe even something personal that we have no idea about.

Coric was being hyped a few years ago like AZ is now. AZ has already surpassed him.

I also wouldn't mind a real rivalry with a little drama added in...
 

Tshooter

G.O.A.T.
"Q. A couple times you complained to the ref. Was there anything bothering you with the ref?

ALEXANDER ZVEREV: I don't remember, to be honest."

Allow me to refresh.

Borna challenged a call and Alex thought it came after Borna played the point and he
appealed to the Chair who denied his claim (he also asked Borna if he played it but I couldn't see Borna's response). Alex characterized the Chairs decision as "bullsh$t" and made reference to other alleged BS calls during the match.
 

r2473

G.O.A.T.
https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/the-ttw-dictionary.251731/

Excuse

~noun
1. Anything a player says in the press conference after losing a match and doesn’t sound like “my rival PWNED me badly”, “my rival is a god and I couldn’t win while being so in awe with his divine light”, “I was 100% today, absolutely ON, healthier than ever, totally focused, no mono, no tiredness, no headcase, but I would never won this match because my rival is the ultra-GOAT and his mother looks like Scarlett Johansson and his coach is Einstein and I praise him every night before going to sleep and I’m so thankful for having the honour of being arse-kicked by him”.
2. Anything a player says in the press conference after losing a match unless it sounds like “I was threatened by the Mafia not to win this match, and I wasn’t focused because my girlfriend ran away with Radek Stepanek, and my coach ran away with all my earnings, and my whole family died yesterday in a plane crash while coming to see this match, and during this morning’s medical routine I found out to be dying of a strange disease that came to Earth in a meteorite”.
 
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imonfire

Rookie
Coric beating him now & again is good for both of them, tennis and me. I don't want another dominator like Federer or Nadal or Djokovic. I want a close rivalry between them, Shapavolov, Thiem, Kyrgios, and whomever else is in their league, so we can all enjoy even better quality tennis than previous years. Who's with me?! ;^)B

Agreed and fixed your post a little bit
 

TheAverageFedererFan

Professional
Seriously hope he doesn't turn out to be another Berdych. The guy has a lot of potential. He should win a few majors at least. He is doing very well for this age, but shouldn't let it get to his head.
 

r2473

G.O.A.T.
Seriously hope he doesn't turn out to be another Berdych. The guy has a lot of potential. He should win a few majors at least. He is doing very well for this age, but shouldn't let it get to his head.
Berdych had a great career.

1) He had to compete against the Big 4

2) He was the most hurt IMO by the courts slowing down. On faster courts, he would have won Slams IMO.

Zverev will get to compete in the era of parity. He'll do OK. He won't dominate, but he'll do fine.

The only guy that has a chance to "big 3 dominate" is Kyrgios, but he won't do it. Mostly because of his undisciplined mind, but also (maybe equally) because of his early injuries that are almost sure to plague him his whole career.
 

TheAverageFedererFan

Professional
Berdych had a great career.

1) He had to compete against the Big 4

2) He was the most hurt IMO by the courts slowing down. On faster courts, he would have won Slams IMO.

Zverev will get to compete in the era of parity. He'll do OK. He won't dominate, but he'll do fine.

The only guy that has a chance to "big 3 dominate" is Kyrgios, but he won't do it. Mostly because of his undisciplined mind, but also (maybe equally) because of his early injuries that are almost sure to plague him his whole career.
What I meant was that Berdych had the talent win a major but let it get to his head. Was a teen phenomenon winning 2005 Paris and beating prime Fed in the 2004 Olympics. But he was too overconfident and let it get to his head to the point that he couldn't sadly win a major.
 

MLRoy

Hall of Fame
Coric and AZ must have a history.

maybe even something personal that we have no idea about.

Coric was being hyped a few years ago like AZ is now. AZ has already surpassed him.

I also wouldn't mind a real rivalry with a little drama added in...
Yes, definitely. They're about the same age, so I think they've played many times in the "juniors". Just kind of sour grapes from AZ with the cursory handshake at the end. Love his game, but he needs to be humbled now & again to keep that ego in check. Just watching a little of the Open online now, and a lot of the players, like Kuznetsova, are playing again today. Kanepi, too. Seems like they're giving everyone the bum's rush, hurrying things along too fast. Watched some of the Nicelescu/Bogdan match. Those are another two that played yesterday. And there's about 60 people in the stands, which is ridiculous. (Monica is kicking her butt)
Love the upsets so far. Take care. ;^)B
 

MLRoy

Hall of Fame
Not a fan of Zverev and his dooche bag haircut. But he seemed really upset for losing. I'd say that's a good sign. Better than how Kyrgios or Dimitrov react after a loss.
I had agree with you, but gave a "like" because of the doosh bag haircut line! Yeah, he def needs a grown man's haircut. But he'll be more handsome, then he'll really be impossible. Oh well.
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
I wouldn't call Djokovic a 'graceful' loser.

perhaps an affable, lighthearted one; but not graceful.

Djokovic is every bit of a graceful loser. He always gives his opponents credit, he never rips anybody over a match he thought he should have won, he doesn't come up with a whole bunch of excuses, and he was always has a good attitude about it. That is a graceful loser.
 

MLRoy

Hall of Fame
"Q. A couple times you complained to the ref. Was there anything bothering you with the ref?

ALEXANDER ZVEREV: I don't remember, to be honest."

Allow me to refresh.

Borna challenged a call and Alex thought it came after Borna played the point and he
appealed to the Chair who denied his claim (he also asked Borna if he played it but I couldn't see Borna's response). Alex characterized the Chairs decision as "bullsh$t" and made reference to other alleged BS calls during the match.
Oh, okay. I didn't know that. That explains the surly handshake. In that case, it's more understandable. Good eye, T. This kid is more of a politician than I thought; convenient memory.
 

DRII

G.O.A.T.
Djokovic is every bit of a graceful loser. He always gives his opponents credit, he never rips anybody over a match he thought he should have won, he doesn't come up with a whole bunch of excuses, and he was always has a good attitude about it. That is a graceful loser.
he distinctly cited his 'health' on several occasions in a loss.

one I definitely remember is when Dimitrov finally beat him.

again, Djokovic is a 'nice-guy' when he loses, not graceful.

I wouldn't call much of anything Djokovic does on court as graceful. just isn't the right word for him...
 

DRII

G.O.A.T.
LOL...

only thing Berdych and AZ have in common is that guys are jealous and tend to hate on them for being rich, good looking, and having hot GFs/wives! AZ will certainly soon be rich and I assume has or had hot GFs or most certainly will (actually I'm thinking he'll 'be with' Sharapova at some point :D).

and both can be a little bit dvia-ish.

regarding tennis; I think AZ has more of a killer instinct than Berdych ever had, and he won't have to compete against prime Big 4 all his career.
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
he distinctly cited his 'health' on several occasions in a loss.

one I definitely remember is when Dimitrov finally beat him.

again, Djokovic is a 'nice-guy' when he loses, not graceful.

I wouldn't call much of anything Djokovic does on court as graceful. just isn't the right word for him...

Djokovic had twisted his ankle in Davis Cup a couple of weeks before that match with Dimitrov, and called for a medical timeout in the 2nd set to have it worked on. Still yet his quote was “For this tournament, I didn’t prepare myself so good, but I’m not trying to find any excuses.” Of course they asked him about the injury in the press conference.
Out of any of the great champions that I have ever seen, from Agassi, Sampras, Federer, Nadal, Serena, McEnroe, Graf, etc., he takes a loss the most gracefully and the only instance I've ever seen him sour was very early in his career in 2006 RG in a loss to Nadal. I never saw that again. Those champions I have mentioned have all been sore losers multiple times in their careeers, have many excuses or can barely even muster up a compliment to their opponent. I like many of them but it's true. So yes Djokovic is a graceful loser and you may want look into what exactly a graceful loser is.
 

thrust

Legend
I see no soreness at all. A very young man tipped to win the title or at least make the final went out in round 2 and is very disappointed. He still managed to give some props to his opponent. And he is right that he was favoured and that he had an open draw. Didn't see the match so can't comment his evaluation of it.

It's no worse or even slightly better than any Nadal's post-match interview after a loss, and I don't think Nadal is a sore loser. He is not a good loser, not many people are, but he isn't a sore loser.
I agree! In the words of a very famous US football coach " Show me a Good loser and I will show you a Loser" Though I was rooting for Coric, I think Zverev's comments were fair and understandable.
 

DRII

G.O.A.T.
Djokovic had twisted his ankle in Davis Cup a couple of weeks before that match with Dimitrov, and called for a medical timeout in the 2nd set to have it worked on. Still yet his quote was “For this tournament, I didn’t prepare myself so good, but I’m not trying to find any excuses.” Of course they asked him about the injury in the press conference.
Out of any of the great champions that I have ever seen, from Agassi, Sampras, Federer, Nadal, Serena, McEnroe, Graf, etc., he takes a loss the most gracefully and the only instance I've ever seen him sour was very early in his career in 2006 RG in a loss to Nadal. I never saw that again. Those champions I have mentioned have all been sore losers multiple times in their careeers, have many excuses or can barely even muster up a compliment to their opponent. I like many of them but it's true. So yes Djokovic is a graceful loser and you may want look into what exactly a graceful loser is.
sorry, we just disagree.

graceful is not the word for Djokovic.

its not like I'm saying he's a bad or sore loser, he definitely is not, but he's not graceful.
 

Shaolin

G.O.A.T.
Whose idea was that? Borg never won the USO and suffered his last defeat there which made him walk straight out of the tour never to play again. Bad omen

The designer was prob 24 years old and doesn't know **** about tennis or tennis history. Adidas doesn't care.
 

Pavla

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My husband was waiting for me outside the ladies room when Sasha strode by on his way to the locker rooms. Hubby said he looked like he was ready to kill someone :)

I love it when Mischa wins and Sasha loses. I'm a big meanie :)
 
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