Wilson Ultra Tour (Monfils)

Subaruvich

Semi-Pro
Another practice session with UT today. It's still in stock form with og and dampener, strung specs 335g, 318mm, SW321, RA61. Today more net play and overheads. I have to say at net it is rock solid and stable, volleys better than my TC97 18m which is 5g heavier. Power and spin I get more with TC97, I guess the thinner beam allows me to generate more RHS.
 

hotasice

Semi-Pro
Another practice session with UT today. It's still in stock form with og and dampener, strung specs 335g, 318mm, SW321, RA61. Today more net play and overheads. I have to say at net it is rock solid and stable, volleys better than my TC97 18m which is 5g heavier. Power and spin I get more with TC97, I guess the thinner beam allows me to generate more RHS.

really enjoying your descriptions of the UT!

are you planning on customizing yours?
 

Tommy Haas

Hall of Fame
For those who have purchased it from sources other than TW, how much are you paying for your Ultra Tours? I know not all stores sell at the MAP. One of the stores near me sells it for $199, but they don't have an RDC. I really want a 60-61 RA frame like some here have, but I don't know if their RDC was off-spec, TW's RDC is off-spec or their frame was off-spec.
 

Harry_Wild

G.O.A.T.
For those who have purchased it from sources other than TW, how much are you paying for your Ultra Tours? I know not all stores sell at the MAP. One of the stores near me sells it for $199, but they don't have an RDC. I really want a 60-61 RA frame like some here have, but I don't know if their RDC was off-spec, TW's RDC is off-spec or their frame was off-spec.
I think their is a margin of error between frames as well as the RDC machines. So, I think a RA -/+? of 2% is about right, maybe. It it is stated at 63, - 61 to 65! So is 2-3% off going make or break your tennis playing style?

The Ultra Tour is a plush racquet, so the RA might not be as important as with other racquets. Just demo the racquet and decide the old fashion way or play the full price and see if TW can get you a 61 RA model Tour! Chances are they probably cannot! But a 62-63 is a possibility!
 
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TennisD

Professional
For those who have purchased it from sources other than TW, how much are you paying for your Ultra Tours? I know not all stores sell at the MAP. One of the stores near me sells it for $199, but they don't have an RDC. I really want a 60-61 RA frame like some here have, but I don't know if their RDC was off-spec, TW's RDC is off-spec or their frame was off-spec.
Well the good news is that, even if it's 1-2 points higher than 61, you're not going to notice it.
 

BBM70

New User
Got mine today. It weighs 302g, balance 31.5cm. Don't have machine (nor my stringer) to find out flex & SW. I am not too concerned if it is couple of points off, as long as it feels good/plush. Here it is
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skuludo

Professional
I've hit with the Ultra Tour, and it felt like the Pro Tour 630, Tec 315 Ltd 18M, and the TC 97 18x20. The trajectory off the string bed is like the PT630, which is lower than the 315 Ltd 18M, and the TC 97 18x20. As I hit harder the racket flex felt just like playing with the 315 Ltd 18M on occasion.
 

Anton

Legend
Got mine today - strung with Cyclone 18g @ 52 to make up for anticipated low throw angle. Just hitting against the hand, stringbed feels pretty good, noticed some impact vibrations in the handle.

Will post more tomorrow.
 

Tommy Haas

Hall of Fame
Got mine today - strung with Cyclone 18g @ 52 to make up for anticipated low throw angle. Just hitting against the hand, stringbed feels pretty good, noticed some impact vibrations in the handle.

Will post more tomorrow.

I don't remember where I read it, but it may have been from an industry review site or some paid promo and the Ultra Tour was advertised as having a foam filled handle. I'm surprised that you felt any vibrations there. Maybe because the rest of the frame isn't foam filled and that allowed more vibrations than the foam filled handle could handle (pun intended). I bet the vibes would disappear once the frame is weighted down.
 
I have been hitting with mine for a couple of days now. Mine weighs 335 g with them over grip and a dampener, I strung it with rpm 16g at 50 pounds. I would agree with the low trajectory but the racquet feels pretty solid all the way across the board. It feels to me that the string ben is pretty tight so I'll most likely go with 17g at 46 pounds. I may have to put some putty at the bottom to make a little bit more headlight and also possibly put on some weight at 12 just so there's a little bit more drive, but over great racquet can't wait for it to be perfect.
 

Tommy Haas

Hall of Fame
I have been hitting with mine for a couple of days now. Mine weighs 335 g with them over grip and a dampener, I strung it with rpm 16g at 50 pounds.

Is your Ultra Tour really 11.8oz just from being strung with an overgrip and dampener? I like my frames at about 12oz, so if I replaced the stock synthetic and went with leather and an overgrip, it would be north of 12oz. I also use multi-filament strings which are heavier than poly, so the way I want it configured would bring it to probably 12.2oz. If that's the case, I won't get a grip size down to install leather.
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
Is your Ultra Tour really 11.8oz just from being strung with an overgrip and dampener? I like my frames at about 12oz, so if I replaced the stock synthetic and went with leather and an overgrip, it would be north of 12oz. I also use multi-filament strings which are heavier than poly, so the way I want it configured would bring it to probably 12.2oz. If that's the case, I won't get a grip size down to install leather.
Multis are lighter than poly.
 

Jarno

New User
First session with UT today. Strung with Hyper-G 18g 51/48 lbs. Groundstrokes: very smooth, very predictable response out of the stringbed. Good control and power. Spin was surprisingly good as well. Volleys were stable even in its stock form. Did not get chance to serve yet. I did notice some vibrations in the handle while hitting ball with the wall briefly, but during practice there were none. Really enjoying myself, highly recommend UT.
 

Crie

Rookie
the Ultra tour is great. spin is stupid off my ohbh and i actually hit some stupid shots. forehand needs to get dialed in a bit more, but i haven;t played in 2 weeks because of an injury so that is most likely my time off. volley feel is nice. i think i need to put in something like tourbite 17 instead of dead strings like hyper-g and rpm rough. feels like an clarinet playing low F. basically its good. haven;t served but overhead is nice too.

that is all at stock 320~sw. any unpleasant thing will be changed when i am not lazy and decide to bring it up to 355sw and 360 static. its a good racquet. buyt it if u can;t find others like it. its pricey tho, but i would get this over the angell. shiping costs are big in pounds
 

Tommy Haas

Hall of Fame
I did notice some vibrations in the handle while hitting ball with the wall briefly, but during practice there were none.

You're the second person to write about vibration in the handle which is surprising given that it's foam filled. Would using a leather grip exacerbate the vibrations or dampen it more due to the extra weight? I'm vibration sensitive and don't know which grip size to get because if go with leather, it has to be one size down.

I can also go one size down anyway and use the Wilson Shock Shield which adds as much weight as leather and also dampens vibrations better than any other grip. My hands don't sweat that much and I normally play with just a plain synthetic grip. I only use overgrips with leather for the cushioning and extra tack.
 

zalive

Hall of Fame
You're the second person to write about vibration in the handle which is surprising given that it's foam filled. Would using a leather grip exacerbate the vibrations or dampen it more due to the extra weight? I'm vibration sensitive and don't know which grip size to get because if go with leather, it has to be one size down.

I can also go one size down anyway and use the Wilson Shock Shield which adds as much weight as leather and also dampens vibrations better than any other grip. My hands don't sweat that much and I normally play with just a plain synthetic grip. I only use overgrips with leather for the cushioning and extra tack.

It's because of specific specs dispersion on his racquet, vibrations peak amplitude the handle spot so he feels them a lot. With some lead here or there one can move the position of vibrations which helps.
 

Tommy Haas

Hall of Fame
It's because of specific specs dispersion on his racquet, vibrations peak amplitude the handle spot so he feels them a lot. With some lead here or there one can move the position of vibrations which helps.

Would a leather grip with an overgrip or the Wilson Shock Shield absorb vibrations better in the handle?
 

ed70

Professional
I'm sure 1 of the blades from 2015 I hit had a foam filled handle, and every now and again I got a nasty vibration that went up my arm.
 

Jarno

New User
Let me be more spesific.
I am an arm-vibration-sensitive as well. Ut is a great plush-feeling racket in my opinion. Vibrations were present only with fresh stringbed. Afterwards i put 10 grams of lead in the grip and an overgrip on the top. Today i had no vibrations out on the court, only pure pleasure. I see that a leather grip by its own will solve any minor vibrations with UT.
 

zalive

Hall of Fame
I'm sure 1 of the blades from 2015 I hit had a foam filled handle, and every now and again I got a nasty vibration that went up my arm.

What you felt as nasty was the shock, that first and the strongest amplitude of vibration. Foam cannot stop shock from happening, it can just help to dampen vibrations quicker.
 

Tommy Haas

Hall of Fame
What you felt as nasty was the shock, that first and the strongest amplitude of vibration. Foam cannot stop shock from happening, it can just help to dampen vibrations quicker.

Which option would best dampen handle vibration? No 4th choice using a combination with putty because that's too much weight for me.

1. Leather+overgrip.
2. Wilson Shock Shield.
3. Putty in buttcap.
 

zalive

Hall of Fame
Would a leather grip with an overgrip or the Wilson Shock Shield absorb vibrations better in the handle?

Not quite (edit: though it has more mass so it might have the effect, but note that I didn't experiment with leather grips), there are better vibration dampening grips than leather. Some thick soft absorbing synt grip would do a better job. But if you understood what I was saying, when you feel vibrations in the handle it's a good deal because the spot where their amplitude is big probably hit the spot where you hold the racquet. Something like tailweighting might help with this because you influence the frequency. When you influence the frequency you influence the distance between neighbouring vibration nodes. And when that happens, position of vibration amplitude will move. Plus, lead or a putty are good material for absorbing vibrations too.

I read on this board that great material to absorbe vibrations are those tiny foam pieces that sometimes arive with post packages, and which are used to protect the package. They are supposedly excellent at dampening vibrations, better than foam in the handle.
 

zalive

Hall of Fame
Which option would best dampen handle vibration? No 4th choice of the first two and putty because that's too much weight.

1. Leather+overgrip.
2. Wilson Shock Shield.
3. Putty in buttcap.

All I know is this:
1. Soft materials are generally good at dampening vibrations
2. The more mass you put in the handle, better the dampening

Putty is great for dampening, but lead is good as well because it is soft. Silicone is not better than those two IMO but it's practical because it hardens and stays in place. That's its flaw at the same time :)
 

Panquake

Rookie
Which option would best dampen handle vibration? No 4th choice using a combination with putty because that's too much weight for me.

1. Leather+overgrip.
2. Wilson Shock Shield.
3. Putty in buttcap.

Wilson Shock Shield for sure. I used to use leather grips on my Burn FST 95, but in winter the leather got hard and it started to hurt my arm. I switched to Shock Shield grips and it felt a lot better


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bkfinch

Semi-Pro
Something like tailweighting might help with this because you influence the frequency. When you influence the frequency you influence the distance between neighbouring vibration nodes. And when that happens, position of vibration amplitude will move. Plus, lead or a putty are good material for absorbing vibrations too.

You just blew my mind.

I didn't realize there was a correlation between tailweighting/recoil weight and vibration dampening (???)
 

Murray_fan1

Professional
Picked up an Ultra Tour to try and I would have to agree that this stick feels very plush. 62, 63, 64 RA ? whatever it is it feels like grass fed butter. Surprisingly stable and decent pop in stock form. I will for sure customize but I would like to say bravo to Wilson for making this stick available to the masses.
 

zalive

Hall of Fame
You just blew my mind.

I didn't realize there was a correlation between tailweighting/recoil weight and vibration dampening (???)

Well, if you check TWU pages regarding vibration frequency, you will find there that weight directly lowers vibration frequency. In other words, for a given racquet, if you add mass to it, vibration frequency will go down.

The other aspect, dampening. Any mass dampens vibration regardless of what it is, and more mass will dampen vibrations more. It's because of internal loss of energy within materials which happens in any material (vibration energy converts to heat energy, no energy dissapears, right?). More mass is more material, so if you add mass vibrations will dampen more efficiently. It's just that not any material is equally effective in internal loss of energy. Certain materials with good dampening properties will do it very efficiently per unit of mass. So adding such materials pay off. But what's good to know, any material commonly used in racquet customization is a dampening material, because all those materials are actually soft, losing vibrations fast. However mass of such a material counts, more mass, quicker dampening. Also it's not the same as for the position of the mass. Try different positions with a dampener, and you will find at least one certain spot where a dampener works more efficiently than at some other position. It's when you place it at the vibration node it will work most efficiently. I guess the same is valid for lowering the vibration frequency. Material counts, mass counts, position counts.
 
hey guys, first post on here so cut me some slack on my review. i am an open level player with big ground strokes/serve (all courter/attacking style). i have tried almost every racket on the market within the last few years (mostly out of curiousity) and i use a weighted up blade 98 18x20 countervail around 12.3 ounces with a rubber band for dampener and one overgrip (tourna or wilson pro). string was luxillon big banger rough @ 57.

i started off with volleys at the net at the racket feels super crisp and buttery. as the TW guys say, a real "point and shoot racket." manuaverabity was about an 8.5/10. i think the racket could use some lead in the handle or even a leather grip. the racket is VERY solid at the net though, i honestly don't think the racket needs much, if any, lead on the head.

moving on to groundstrokes, my first few shots went long to be completely honest. i tend to hit big groundstrokes with loads of spin but a low trajectory on the ball. once i figured out the way the ball came off the racket it was game on! i could barely miss! the racket is really smooth and buttery as i mentioned before. the ONLY time i felt any vibrations is if i had a mishit or was way out of the sweet spot. slice was really nice too, the ball goes exactly where you want it 95 percent of the time i felt. id give groundstrokes an 9/10.

i know some of the TW playtesters didn't love this racket on serve but i had no problems whatsoever. i was hitting bombs with my flat serve and nailing my spots. my kick actually had a lot more than usual compared to my blade 98 as well. id give serves an 8/10.

OVERALL: this racket is definitively going to be my next racket. i've hit with it three days in a row now and the more i hit with it, the more i enjoy it! i know people are saying that this is a great platform racket, which i agree with, but in all honesty this racket doesn't really need MUCH.. i'm not a huge guy or anything (5'11" 165) but i hit really big and this racket really kept a lot more balls in that usual for me. fair warning though, if you are looking for a racket with good power and easy spin this one isn't for you. you definitely need to be able to give this racket some UMPH in order to get what you need from it. for me, it's almost perfect. for a beginner or really anyone under a 4.0 or 4.5 i think it's probably not your best option. i'm going to be adding a little weight to the handle but besides that, probably nowhere else for the time being. this racket is kind of like a blade but a little more demanding. if you can handle that demand, i would HIGHLY recommend you give this racket a shot. 8.5 or a 9/10. let me know if you have any questions, happy to answer
 

Anton

Legend
You're the second person to write about vibration in the handle which is surprising given that it's foam filled. Would using a leather grip exacerbate the vibrations or dampen it more due to the extra weight? I'm vibration sensitive and don't know which grip size to get because if go with leather, it has to be one size down.

I can also go one size down anyway and use the Wilson Shock Shield which adds as much weight as leather and also dampens vibrations better than any other grip. My hands don't sweat that much and I normally play with just a plain synthetic grip. I only use overgrips with leather for the cushioning and extra tack.


So mystery solved - It's not a frame flex vibration, this is a stringbed vibration because lowest cross is sitting kinda high, leaving 2 inches of mains uncrossed and thus vibrating longer.

Very simple fix - rubber band. I put one on and buzzy vibrations in the handle disappeared.
 
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skuludo

Professional
What's the playing difference between UT and Tec 315 Ltd 18x20?

Only differences are shot trajectory and wihout the rubbery feel that the Tec 315 Ltd 18x20 has. The UT has a truer launch. I would say the launch angle of the 315 Ltd 18M is like the Blade 98 18x20 where the 315 Ltd 18x20 has lower power.

The lower starting weight of the UT feels like the racket is easier to move around compared to the 315 Ltd 18x20.
 

viddal'alien

New User
I wanted to check if the handle was filled with foam as indicated on this forum, and the answer is NO !!
it's silicone and I am happy!
See the pics
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Concerning the vibrations, with a rubber like Andre A., one feels nothing bad,
and noise "deaf" strikes is a delight


 

pfrischmann

Professional
hey guys, first post on here so cut me some slack on my review. i am an open level player with big ground strokes/serve (all courter/attacking style). i have tried almost every racket on the market within the last few years (mostly out of curiousity) and i use a weighted up blade 98 18x20 countervail around 12.3 ounces with a rubber band for dampener and one overgrip (tourna or wilson pro). string was luxillon big banger rough @ 57.

i started off with volleys at the net at the racket feels super crisp and buttery. as the TW guys say, a real "point and shoot racket." manuaverabity was about an 8.5/10. i think the racket could use some lead in the handle or even a leather grip. the racket is VERY solid at the net though, i honestly don't think the racket needs much, if any, lead on the head.

moving on to groundstrokes, my first few shots went long to be completely honest. i tend to hit big groundstrokes with loads of spin but a low trajectory on the ball. once i figured out the way the ball came off the racket it was game on! i could barely miss! the racket is really smooth and buttery as i mentioned before. the ONLY time i felt any vibrations is if i had a mishit or was way out of the sweet spot. slice was really nice too, the ball goes exactly where you want it 95 percent of the time i felt. id give groundstrokes an 9/10.

i know some of the TW playtesters didn't love this racket on serve but i had no problems whatsoever. i was hitting bombs with my flat serve and nailing my spots. my kick actually had a lot more than usual compared to my blade 98 as well. id give serves an 8/10.

OVERALL: this racket is definitively going to be my next racket. i've hit with it three days in a row now and the more i hit with it, the more i enjoy it! i know people are saying that this is a great platform racket, which i agree with, but in all honesty this racket doesn't really need MUCH.. i'm not a huge guy or anything (5'11" 165) but i hit really big and this racket really kept a lot more balls in that usual for me. fair warning though, if you are looking for a racket with good power and easy spin this one isn't for you. you definitely need to be able to give this racket some UMPH in order to get what you need from it. for me, it's almost perfect. for a beginner or really anyone under a 4.0 or 4.5 i think it's probably not your best option. i'm going to be adding a little weight to the handle but besides that, probably nowhere else for the time being. this racket is kind of like a blade but a little more demanding. if you can handle that demand, i would HIGHLY recommend you give this racket a shot. 8.5 or a 9/10. let me know if you have any questions, happy to answer
hey guys, first post on here so cut me some slack on my review. i am an open level player with big ground strokes/serve (all courter/attacking style). i have tried almost every racket on the market within the last few years (mostly out of curiousity) and i use a weighted up blade 98 18x20 countervail around 12.3 ounces with a rubber band for dampener and one overgrip (tourna or wilson pro). string was luxillon big banger rough @ 57.

i started off with volleys at the net at the racket feels super crisp and buttery. as the TW guys say, a real "point and shoot racket." manuaverabity was about an 8.5/10. i think the racket could use some lead in the handle or even a leather grip. the racket is VERY solid at the net though, i honestly don't think the racket needs much, if any, lead on the head.

moving on to groundstrokes, my first few shots went long to be completely honest. i tend to hit big groundstrokes with loads of spin but a low trajectory on the ball. once i figured out the way the ball came off the racket it was game on! i could barely miss! the racket is really smooth and buttery as i mentioned before. the ONLY time i felt any vibrations is if i had a mishit or was way out of the sweet spot. slice was really nice too, the ball goes exactly where you want it 95 percent of the time i felt. id give groundstrokes an 9/10.

i know some of the TW playtesters didn't love this racket on serve but i had no problems whatsoever. i was hitting bombs with my flat serve and nailing my spots. my kick actually had a lot more than usual compared to my blade 98 as well. id give serves an 8/10.

OVERALL: this racket is definitively going to be my next racket. i've hit with it three days in a row now and the more i hit with it, the more i enjoy it! i know people are saying that this is a great platform racket, which i agree with, but in all honesty this racket doesn't really need MUCH.. i'm not a huge guy or anything (5'11" 165) but i hit really big and this racket really kept a lot more balls in that usual for me. fair warning though, if you are looking for a racket with good power and easy spin this one isn't for you. you definitely need to be able to give this racket some UMPH in order to get what you need from it. for me, it's almost perfect. for a beginner or really anyone under a 4.0 or 4.5 i think it's probably not your best option. i'm going to be adding a little weight to the handle but besides that, probably nowhere else for the time being. this racket is kind of like a blade but a little more demanding. if you can handle that demand, i would HIGHLY recommend you give this racket a shot. 8.5 or a 9/10. let me know if you have any questions, happy to answer



Good review charlie!.
This is a very honest racquet. It gives you very little for free. It has a neutral launch angle, greal feel and stability but unlike the Babolats I've been working for you get no power or spin for free.
This thing would be a dream with champoins choice at 55 gut in the mains and 53 poly in the crosses.
 

ed70

Professional
hey guys, first post on here so cut me some slack on my review. i am an open level player with big ground strokes/serve (all courter/attacking style). i have tried almost every racket on the market within the last few years (mostly out of curiousity) and i use a weighted up blade 98 18x20 countervail around 12.3 ounces with a rubber band for dampener and one overgrip (tourna or wilson pro). string was luxillon big banger rough @ 57.

i started off with volleys at the net at the racket feels super crisp and buttery. as the TW guys say, a real "point and shoot racket." manuaverabity was about an 8.5/10. i think the racket could use some lead in the handle or even a leather grip. the racket is VERY solid at the net though, i honestly don't think the racket needs much, if any, lead on the head.

moving on to groundstrokes, my first few shots went long to be completely honest. i tend to hit big groundstrokes with loads of spin but a low trajectory on the ball. once i figured out the way the ball came off the racket it was game on! i could barely miss! the racket is really smooth and buttery as i mentioned before. the ONLY time i felt any vibrations is if i had a mishit or was way out of the sweet spot. slice was really nice too, the ball goes exactly where you want it 95 percent of the time i felt. id give groundstrokes an 9/10.

i know some of the TW playtesters didn't love this racket on serve but i had no problems whatsoever. i was hitting bombs with my flat serve and nailing my spots. my kick actually had a lot more than usual compared to my blade 98 as well. id give serves an 8/10.

OVERALL: this racket is definitively going to be my next racket. i've hit with it three days in a row now and the more i hit with it, the more i enjoy it! i know people are saying that this is a great platform racket, which i agree with, but in all honesty this racket doesn't really need MUCH.. i'm not a huge guy or anything (5'11" 165) but i hit really big and this racket really kept a lot more balls in that usual for me. fair warning though, if you are looking for a racket with good power and easy spin this one isn't for you. you definitely need to be able to give this racket some UMPH in order to get what you need from it. for me, it's almost perfect. for a beginner or really anyone under a 4.0 or 4.5 i think it's probably not your best option. i'm going to be adding a little weight to the handle but besides that, probably nowhere else for the time being. this racket is kind of like a blade but a little more demanding. if you can handle that demand, i would HIGHLY recommend you give this racket a shot. 8.5 or a 9/10. let me know if you have any questions, happy to answer

Nice review! Quick question though, you say the UT is more demanding than your blade 18x20...however you've had to weight you blade upto 12.3 oz's whereas the UT is fine at stock weight?
 

viddal'alien

New User
There is an element that nobody has highlighted, it's a form of the handle. It would be a patent being deposited by wilson (if someone has additional information). Personally I love the form.
 

Panquake

Rookie
There is an element that nobody has highlighted, it's a form of the handle. It would be a patent being deposited by wilson (if someone has additional information). Personally I love the form.

Please explain further, a form of the handle?


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