Fed explains why he skipped the clay court season

Incognito

Legend
I was just having fun, the mono excuse is fun, so is the prime talk. I cant understand how you think all of this is so important.


Mono? Is that the same mono that Söderling and Ancic (?) had and therefore retired from the sport almost dying? Or is it the kind of mono that makes you play the whole clay season, reaching all finals? What can you say, Fed is GOAT. Even the virus apologized to him:)
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

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Mono? Is that the same mono that Söderling and Ancic (?) had and therefore retired from the sport almost dying? Or is it the kind of mono that makes you play the whole clay season, reaching all finals? What can you say, Fed is GOAT. Even the virus apologized to him:)
Its "Fed mono", another type of mono scientists recently discovered. Sorry for not making that clear initially.
 
Because, as he explains, he was younger and fitter then. Now he is older and he feels he has to ration his appearances to save as much energy as possible for the surface he prefers to play on ie. grass.
He couldn't do the same after 2009 (okay 2010 for title defending)???
 

ChaelAZ

G.O.A.T.
Interesting "what if?"

I imagine if he lost form, and was forced to play on clay while in a slump we could see something akin to the 2013 horror show.

I think if things don't go as well on grass he might consider it. The other reasons he will play clay is when he is about to retire and has nothing to really defend or lose, but everything to gain by being there.
 

wangs78

Legend
I appreciate Fed being honest and telling it as it is - that at age 36 he wants to save energy for Wimbledon. The fact that some clay tournament directors and the media have made his skipping clay into an issue is ridiculous and self-serving. For the tournament directors they are annoyed that tennis's biggest star is skipping and so choose to make derogatory comments about Fed so that they don't look too bad themselves. For the media, and I generally mean the crappy ones, they'll say anything to get views/clicks/hits. This is the age we live in and sadly there are many who cannot tell the difference between truth and hogwash.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Mono? Is that the same mono that Söderling and Ancic (?) had and therefore retired from the sport almost dying? Or is it the kind of mono that makes you play the whole clay season, reaching all finals? What can you say, Fed is GOAT. Even the virus apologized to him:)
Federer simply had a less severe form of mono.

And of course the Fed haters liked your post.
 

Pagoo

G.O.A.T.
Amazing the VB trolls are still pressed and salty. The double standard is real.

It's funny how some of the fangirls who were pretending to support the next gen have jumped ship since the clay season began.

So much hypocrisy. That's why you can't take these blabbermouths seriously.
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
In that case no way was Nadal ever injured.
Lol. At least Rafa has a real injury. Something measurable and provable.
Mono isnt an injury. When you have mono you cant be active in sports.
Some have gotten a similar mono illness because of EPO though.So if I was a Fed fan I would rather not speak about his so called mono.
But real mono has to be completely healed before being active again. It is dangerous to be active w mono.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Lol. At least Rafa has a real injury. Something measurable and provable.
Mono isnt an injury. When you have mono you cant be active in sports.
Some have gotten a similar mono illness because of EPO though.So if I was a Fed fan I would rather not speak about his so called mono.
But real mono has to be completely healed before being active again. It is dangerous to be active w mono.
So you know more than his doctors and even accuse him of PEDS.

You have really sunk to the lowest.
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
So you know more than his doctors and even accuse him of PEDS.

You have really sunk to the lowest.
Just chill out. Take 10 long breaths. But if you ask a sports doctor thats what he/she will say. It became evident with all those bikers that had mild mono and they found the link.
Im not saying he doped. But I wouldnt go around saying he had a mild mono and played slams either. Cause it just sounds strange. That you can play a slam having mono is simply not possible.

edit- it is a dumb excuse. that is what it is.
Just as Rafa fans saying: his parents had a divorce, thats why he played bad.
Just.... dont. he lost. Get over it.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Just chill out. Take 10 long breaths. But if you ask a sports doctor thats what he/she will say. It became evident with all those bikers that had mild mono and they found the link.
Im not saying he doped. But I wouldnt go around saying he had a mild mono and played slams either. Cause it just sounds strange. That you can play a slam having mono is simply not possible.
The doctors discovered the mono after the AO.

And if you watched him play, you would know that Fed wasn't well until the clay season.

By that same token, how is it possible for Nadal to have been injured in 2009 since he actually signed up for Wimb?
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Just chill out. Take 10 long breaths. But if you ask a sports doctor thats what he/she will say. It became evident with all those bikers that had mild mono and they found the link.
Im not saying he doped. But I wouldnt go around saying he had a mild mono and played slams either. Cause it just sounds strange. That you can play a slam having mono is simply not possible.

edit- it is a dumb excuse. that is what it is.
Just as Rafa fans saying: his parents had a divorce, thats why he played bad.
Just.... dont. he lost. Get over it.
Just like it seems strange that Rafa was injured at the 2016 FO when he played and absolutely dominated his first 2 opponents.
 
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Surely all of these will be constructive and tread new ground, no?

I daren't read them to find out
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

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Just like it seems strange that Rafa was injured at the 2016 FO when he played and absolutely dominated his first 2 opponents.
Well, I am not so obsessed about these things.
Fed fans making claims Rafa doping several times a day in here. Why dont you stop being a hypocrite and call out them too?

Have you ever had a chronic knee injury? How on earth can you compare a knee injury with mono? Its getting crazy Mike. It is very hard to take you serious. You cant take a joke plus you make these non logic comparisons.
You are accusing others day after day in here, and if someone says something about your lord you get very upset.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Post #161. Why didn't he skip it in 2013 when he was having injury troubles or had he skipped it in 2014 he could have won Wimbledon with more "energy in the tank" given the final was so close?

I don't know. Maybe back then he thought he could still handle a full season but has realised since his layoff in the 2nd half of 2016 that he is better restricting his season to the big hardcourt events and grass?
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

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The doctors discovered the mono after the AO.

And if you watched him play, you would know that Fed wasn't well until the clay season.

By that same token, how is it possible for Nadal to have been injured in 2009 since he actually signed up for Wimb?
Well, that is the most freaky strange mono I have ever heard of! I deal w mono in my work and had mono myself.
It must be the "Fed mono". As I told @Incognito
 

Tennisanity

Legend
Nadal didn't lose a set in 2009 before the loss to Sod - you know the analogous argument the terds use to say Fed was in top form at W08, LOL.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Well, I am not so obsessed about these things.
Fed fans making claims Rafa doping several times a day in here. Why dont you stop being a hypocrite and call out them too?

Have you ever had a chronic knee injury? How on earth can you compare a knee injury with mono? Its getting crazy Mike. It is very hard to take you serious. You cant take a joke plus you make these non logic comparisons.
You are accusing others day after day in here, and if someone says something about your lord you get very upset.
What several times a day are you talking about? Exaggeration?

I never once said Rafa was dopping so don't include me with the others.

You made no joke. You simply said Federer was not ill and even accused him of doping. I disagreed with you.

You just like taking digs at Federer and use others trashing Nadal as a shield, that's all.

You completely disregard Federer being ill. So why should I believe Nadal's serious knee issues when he has never undergone surgery for them?
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
What several times a day are you talking about? Exaggeration?

I never once said Rafa was dopping so don't include me with the others.

You made no joke. You simply said Federer was not ill and even accused him of doping. I disagreed with you.

You just like taking digs at Federer and use others trashing Nadal as a shield, that's all.

You completely disregard Federer being ill. So why should I believe Nadal's serious knee issues when he has never undergone surgery for them?
I cant be bothered. My posts will be removed anyway.
 
Just chill out. Take 10 long breaths. But if you ask a sports doctor thats what he/she will say. It became evident with all those bikers that had mild mono and they found the link.
Im not saying he doped. But I wouldnt go around saying he had a mild mono and played slams either. Cause it just sounds strange. That you can play a slam having mono is simply not possible.

edit- it is a dumb excuse. that is what it is.
Just as Rafa fans saying: his parents had a divorce, thats why he played bad.
Just.... dont. he lost. Get over it.

The great norwegian winter.

:(
 

Pagoo

G.O.A.T.
Funny how the same people who claim Nadal's injury is different and can't be cured with surgery, can't believe mono and other illnesses affect people differently.

So dumb. That's what being a blind hater does to you. Incapable of rational thought.:rolleyes:
 
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Funny how the same people who claim Nadal's injury is different and can't be cured with surgery, can't believe mono and other illnesses affect people differently.

So dumb. That's what being a blind hater does to you. Incapable of rational thought.:rolleyes:

Was reading, and decided to give my thoughts on this, as someone who has legitmately competed in sports at a high level, and being a certified personal trainer, who is around exercise and fitness 24/7 with a masters degree in exercise, human anatomy and nutrition. So not only do I have the academic creditionals, but the physical creditionals to comment on this, and I have seen it all...

Mono can be at varying degrees, it is not something that is black and white. Federer clearly showed signs of illness in early 2008, a mild case of mono. I have seen bodybuilders with mild cases of mono still squating a truck, I have seen way too much to be told otherwise.
 

Pagoo

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Was reading, and decided to give my thoughts on this, as someone who has legitmately competed in sports at a high level, and being a certified personal trainer, who is around exercise and fitness 24/7 with a masters degree in exercise, human anatomy and nutrition. So not only do I have the academic creditionals, but the physical creditionals to comment on this, and I have seen it all...

Mono can be at varying degrees, it is not something that is black and white. Federer clearly showed signs of illness in early 2008, a mild case of mono. I have seen bodybuilders with mild cases of mono still squating a truck, I have seen way too much to be told otherwise.

Thanks for your input. Of course anyone with two brain cells to rub together knows that. Different people contract different illnesses everyday. Some make a full recovery and pull through, others don't. It isn't rocket science. But when you have an agenda, you hold people you hate to a different standard.
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
He did push Fed to 5 at AO (and that's after beating Nadal earlier), Cilic is just as good on grass as he is on medium-fast HC, think you're underestimating him. Either way we'll see how it goes, Fed will be the favourite but far from the shoe-in Nadal is for the French.

Yes, but we've seen what Cilic can do vs Federer at Wimbledon. He came close in 2016 in the QF and still lost. The 2017 final was a blow-out with Cilic having a near nervous breakdown. But yes, I guess it's possible that Cilic could get hot and Federer could be a bit off. Will Cilic be able to mentally pull it off though? That's the question for me. He tends to wilt mentally vs the Big Four in the most important matches.

A lot will depend on Federer's form and his draw.
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
The Bullzillions care:). I dont care, i think it's the right decision anyway. But that said, i really dont think It has anything to do with Rafa. Clay suits Rogers game even less than before, so the chances for Roger to even reach Rafa on clay are extremely small. In a way it's nice to see the Fed haters have more faith In his clay skills than i have. But deep inside i just think they are scared to death that he will be fit and ready to win nr9;)

Well, let's hope Federer wins Wimbledon. Winning that extra slam will make it that much more difficult for Nadal to catch his slam count(even if Nadal wins the FO, which is pretty much guaranteed.)
 
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Thanks for your input. Of course anyone with two brain cells to rub together knows that. Different people contract different illnesses everyday. Some make a full recovery and pull through, others don't. It isn't rocket science. But when you have an agenda, you hold people you hate to a different standard.

Regardless of who has what agenda, for those that know about this illness, know the varying degrees at which it can be experienced. It was clear he was suffering from it that year. Injuries and illnesses are not something exclusive to non-elite athletes. Nadal has played with injuries, his knees have plagued him, even his back plagued him. Federer has suffered from mono, and back issues. Djokovic has had elbow issues, Murray hip and back issues...No one is immune to injuries and illnesses. The extent of them and how much someone recovers depends on the individual...for all the talk we hear about Nadal's knee problems, it was Wawrinka who had knee surgery. If we are excusing Nadal's knees injuries, for their varying degree of impact on him, then why not for an illness?

Players get injured and sick, it happens...I don't think you will find any top elite player who hasn't at some point suffered from something less than optimum health.
 

Pagoo

G.O.A.T.
Regardless of who has what agenda, for those that know about this illness, know the varying degrees at which it can be experienced. It was clear he was suffering from it that year. Injuries and illnesses are not something exclusive to non-elite athletes. Nadal has played with injuries, his knees have plagued him, even his back plagued him. Federer has suffered from mono, and back issues. Djokovic has had elbow issues, Murray hip and back issues...No one is immune to injuries and illnesses. The extent of them and how much someone recovers depends on the individual...for all the talk we hear about Nadal's knee problems, it was Wawrinka who had knee surgery. If we are excusing Nadal's knees injuries, for their varying degree of impact on him, then why not for an illness?

Players get injured and sick, it happens...I don't think you will find any top elite player who hasn't at some point suffered from something less than optimum health.

Quite a few players have had knee surgery: Stan, Fed, Almagro, and recently Tsonga. I mean, one could argue that it's funny how the guy who's been crying knees for years never had surgery,

Like you said injuries impact players differently and sometimes different treatments are needed. We live and learn.:)
 

Jonas78

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Was reading, and decided to give my thoughts on this, as someone who has legitmately competed in sports at a high level, and being a certified personal trainer, who is around exercise and fitness 24/7 with a masters degree in exercise, human anatomy and nutrition. So not only do I have the academic creditionals, but the physical creditionals to comment on this, and I have seen it all...

Mono can be at varying degrees, it is not something that is black and white. Federer clearly showed signs of illness in early 2008, a mild case of mono. I have seen bodybuilders with mild cases of mono still squating a truck, I have seen way too much to be told otherwise.
Laughing of mono is just a sign of one thing; you know zero about health and should really just be silent. I have two friends who were promising athletes who both pushed It too hard with undiagnosed mono. One of them slept 12-13 hours a day for almost half a year when she finally was diagnosed and was told by the Doctor she couldnt train hard for 6 to 12 months. It ruined her career as a swimmer. This was 15 years ago so they are probably better at diagnosing this now.
 
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