I agree. But if anything, the beefier swingweight should help with returning heavy balls and keeping respectable return ball in play so I am lost, really. I would have to see the review.It could be because the guy was getting spanked pretty well from his opponent? LOL!! It's easy to blame the racquet...wink, wink! I don't mean anything derogatory towards the guy, but perhaps he was just not used to this frame.
lol..here you go http://tennisnerd.net/gear/racquets/racquet-reviews/angell-tc-100-racquet-review/8355I refuse to believe that TC100 63RA lacks put away power and that it can be bullied. Absolutely and vehemently reject that notion. It's been nicknamed Thor's Hammer for a reason - mine are all 335+ swingweight and they do just fine with high level college players. I speak for V2 though. Can you please post link for the review?
"If you want a more powerful frame, you can obviously try the 70 RA version. This will make the racquet stiffer and return more energy to the ball".
Did you get to the part that any string works as it’s not string sensitive? I just disagreed with so much he said"If you want a more powerful frame, you can obviously try the 70 RA version. This will make the racquet stiffer and return more energy to the ball".
Not even sure if I should even read further than that, lol. I can see why I won't agree with most of his analysis and feedback.
LOL I was editing my post as I saw your reply. Its a joke of a review.Did you get to the part that any string works as it’s not string sensitive? I just disagreed with so much he said
I've got good news folks, the V3 TC100 63RA is even better than the V2. Here are my findings. I'll try to mainly emphasize the differences between the two versions.
The original order that was shipped to me was 310.3/31.4, SW 297.
My final specs were (17ga Volkl Cyclone Tour #45, OG, dampener, and added 2.83 grams of tungsten tape at the top of the hoop. I am estimating a final SW of 334. If you take away the lead tape I added, then final SW would of been 324. I got the extra SW measurements for the lead tape from the TW customization document. Therefore, this is my best estimate since I don't possess a measuring device for actual SW.
Keep in mind I played on a slow carpet/sand court and against a much lesser opponent (4.0). I'll be playing this Sunday against a 4.5+ caliber player and will be able to report back on areas of the test that need more verification.
Quick differences between V2 and V3:
I am definitely very pleased with this initial test as it has exceeded my expectations However, as stated above, I still need to do some additional testing in areas that I was unable to do so in today's hitting session.
- Definitely more flex in the hoop
- Biggest surprise is it felt more comfortable, probably because of the extra flex. This is a major plus for me since I have some shoulder issues. Even with the poly strings, this set up was just as comfy as my Wilson Pro Staff CV. Perhaps some of the new materials and manufacturing process attributed to the improvement in comfort.
- Groundstrokes: no big differences between V2 and V3 except more comfort. The ball really pocketed well and the resultant dwell time allowed me to wait on the ball and redirect it with great accuracy. It resulted in the ability to hit sharply angled passing shots as well as deep shots that drew my opponent way off the court. And oh yeah, I was able to it lots of winners without even having to flatten out on the shot much. As we already know this racquet hits a very heavy ball that taxes the opponent like no other! There was some miscommunication between me and my stringer. I asked for string tension of #48 and received #45. I purposely keep my tension in the low range because of my shoulder but I think it would be safe to ratchet up the tension to close to #50. Even with lower than desired tension I hardly hit any shots long. Every time I hit a shot that was close I asked my hitting partner if it was out and he said either it hit the line or was in by a few inches. The slightly less SW allowed me to flatten out on higher incoming shots without any arm discomfort (I was really hoping for this)! Because of this, I added 2.83 grams at the hoop to see how much extra SW I could take. I found myself struggling a tiny bit with the extra weight as it does add 10 more points to the SW. I also found myself hitting a little bit long. Next outing I'll probably use only 1.5 grams at the hoop, or might just add it to positions 3 and 9. This would only add 3 to 5 pts to the total SW. One thing I agree with the Tennis Nerd on is the racquet is extremely capable when slicing the ball....it was like slicing through butter but with weight behind it. The only other racquet I've hit with that could come close is the RF Pro Staff.
- Volleys: Because of the extra flex and comfort, I don't recall the V2 having as much touch as this version. I know when I go to the net with the RF Pro Staff I'm going to get some vibration up my arm especially when facing incoming heat. Not the case with the V3. Drop shots and deeply placed volleys never felt so good!
- Serve, return of serve and stability test: Since today was just a 70 minute after work type hit, we did not get a chance to play a set. As I mentioned before, the court we played on was not nearly as predictable or fast like a hard court. The racquet felt very stable on groundstrokes but I'd rather give my final feedback after my hit this Sunday on the hardcourts.
- The racquet reminded me of a larger, more powerful and comfortable TC97. You won't have the low net clearance of a TC97 but I could probably install 16ga strings to keep the high launch down although I don't personally have a problem with a high launch as long as the shots land in and with decent pace. Keep in mind it's been about 6 months since I've hit with the V2 TC100 and about 2 years since I've hit with a TC97 but I feel my feedback is pretty accurate from what I recall.
- Lastly, I'm more used to the more rounded shape of the Wilson Pro Staffs. I only hit one shot off the frame but need to practice a lot on my flatter shots as they don't feel as controllable as the Pro Staff. However, I did hit some lasers that made me think I just need to get used to the different shape. Brushing up on the ball was a cinch and required no learning curve with the new shaped frame.
I've got good news folks, the V3 TC100 63RA is even better than the V2. Here are my findings. I'll try to mainly emphasize the differences between the two versions.
The original order that was shipped to me was 310.3/31.4, SW 297.
My final specs were (17ga Volkl Cyclone Tour #45, OG, dampener, and added 2.83 grams of tungsten tape at the top of the hoop. I am estimating a final SW of 334. If you take away the lead tape I added, then final SW would of been 324. I got the extra SW measurements for the lead tape from the TW customization document. Therefore, this is my best estimate since I don't possess a measuring device for actual SW.
Keep in mind I played on a slow carpet/sand court and against a much lesser opponent (4.0). I'll be playing this Sunday against a 4.5+ caliber player and will be able to report back on areas of the test that need more verification.
Quick differences between V2 and V3:
- Definitely more flex in the hoop
- Biggest surprise is it felt more comfortable, probably because of the extra flex. This is a major plus for me since I have some shoulder issues. Even....................................................................................................................
Thanks. I’m going to try a little weight at those locations this Sunday.Nice Review. I dont have a TC100 but I do have a TC95 and some weight @ 3 & 9 O'Clock helped immensely.
The lower tension is likely the difference in comfort and dwell time, FWIWI've got good news folks, the V3 TC100 63RA is even better than the V2. Here are my findings. I'll try to mainly emphasize the differences between the two versions.
The original order that was shipped to me was 310.3/31.4, SW 297.
My final specs were (17ga Volkl Cyclone Tour #45, OG, dampener, and added 2.83 grams of tungsten tape at the top of the hoop. I am estimating a final SW of 334. If you take away the lead tape I added, then final SW would of been 324. I got the extra SW measurements for the lead tape from the TW customization document. Therefore, this is my best estimate since I don't possess a measuring device for actual SW.
Keep in mind I played on a slow carpet/sand court and against a much lesser opponent (4.0). I'll be playing this Sunday against a 4.5+ caliber player and will be able to report back on areas of the test that need more verification.
Quick differences between V2 and V3:
I am definitely very pleased with this initial test as it has exceeded my expectations However, as stated above, I still need to do some additional testing in areas that I was unable to do so in today's hitting session.
- Definitely more flex in the hoop
- Biggest surprise is it felt more comfortable, probably because of the extra flex. This is a major plus for me since I have some shoulder issues. Even with the poly strings, this set up was just as comfy as my Wilson Pro Staff CV. Perhaps some of the new materials and manufacturing process attributed to the improvement in comfort.
- Groundstrokes: no big differences between V2 and V3 except more comfort. The ball really pocketed well and the resultant dwell time allowed me to wait on the ball and redirect it with great accuracy. It resulted in the ability to hit sharply angled passing shots as well as deep shots that drew my opponent way off the court. And oh yeah, I was able to it lots of winners without even having to flatten out on the shot much. As we already know this racquet hits a very heavy ball that taxes the opponent like no other! There was some miscommunication between me and my stringer. I asked for string tension of #48 and received #45. I purposely keep my tension in the low range because of my shoulder but I think it would be safe to ratchet up the tension to close to #50. Even with lower than desired tension I hardly hit any shots long. Every time I hit a shot that was close I asked my hitting partner if it was out and he said either it hit the line or was in by a few inches. The slightly less SW allowed me to flatten out on higher incoming shots without any arm discomfort (I was really hoping for this)! Because of this, I added 2.83 grams at the hoop to see how much extra SW I could take. I found myself struggling a tiny bit with the extra weight as it does add 10 more points to the SW. I also found myself hitting a little bit long. Next outing I'll probably use only 1.5 grams at the hoop, or might just add it to positions 3 and 9. This would only add 3 to 5 pts to the total SW. One thing I agree with the Tennis Nerd on is the racquet is extremely capable when slicing the ball....it was like slicing through butter but with weight behind it. The only other racquet I've hit with that could come close is the RF Pro Staff.
- Volleys: Because of the extra flex and comfort, I don't recall the V2 having as much touch as this version. I know when I go to the net with the RF Pro Staff I'm going to get some vibration up my arm especially when facing incoming heat. Not the case with the V3. Drop shots and deeply placed volleys never felt so good!
- Serve, return of serve and stability test: Since today was just a 70 minute after work type hit, we did not get a chance to play a set. As I mentioned before, the court we played on was not nearly as predictable or fast like a hard court. The racquet felt very stable on groundstrokes but I'd rather give my final feedback after my hit this Sunday on the hardcourts.
- The racquet reminded me of a larger, more powerful and comfortable TC97. You won't have the low net clearance of a TC97 but I could probably install 16ga strings to keep the high launch down although I don't personally have a problem with a high launch as long as the shots land in and with decent pace. Keep in mind it's been about 6 months since I've hit with the V2 TC100 and about 2 years since I've hit with a TC97 but I feel my feedback is pretty accurate from what I recall.
- Lastly, I'm more used to the more rounded shape of the Wilson Pro Staffs. I only hit one shot off the frame but need to practice a lot on my flatter shots as they don't feel as controllable as the Pro Staff. However, I did hit some lasers that made me think I just need to get used to the different shape. Brushing up on the ball was a cinch and required no learning curve with the new shaped frame.
No, she has lost in the qualiesWill we see a tc100 at Wimbledon? Tara Moore using the tc100!
Yep, I definitely can tell difference in comfort just by dropping even a couple pounds or so in tension. Was never a fan of and played with uber high tensions anyway.The lower tension is likely the difference in comfort and dwell time, FWIW
Makes sense but I’ve strung V2 at low tension and the comfort level was not nearly as pronounced. I really need to restring, ratchet up the tension and report back.The lower tension is likely the difference in comfort and dwell time, FWIW
I also for many years strung much higher in the low to mid 60’s but adjusted my strokes to accommodate the lower tensions. At least for myself, lower tensions have produced a much heavier ball and seldom have balls land shorter than desired. It was tough to do at first but through proper technique learned through a local teaching pro I developed a higher level of play. Of course, this is not for everyone’s style and preference but it works for me and many top pros.Yep, I definitely can tell difference in comfort just by dropping even a couple pounds or so in tension. Was never a fan of and played with uber high tensions anyway.
I like to chime in, since i like his website and is a nice guy. Red the review, skipped the video. Usually he likes 95 frames more and plays with 23kg tour bite. Not Sure if the latter is what he used in the tc100 but i wouldn’t be the best set up. Next, he plays usually with 320+ frames like RF/ yonex 330 and he leaded up the babolat he is comparing it to. Hence in the end not his best review since comparing apples to oranges. He would love to comment on it below his review if you would write it down there is my expectation.LOL I was editing my post as I saw your reply. Its a joke of a review.
Now that I read my comment it seems like I was suggesting that I use uber high tensions, lol. Not the case. I always played low to med-low tensions. Definitely agree with everything you said.I also for many years strung much higher in the low to mid 60’s but adjusted my strokes to accommodate the lower tensions. At least for myself, lower tensions have produced a much heavier ball and seldom have balls land shorter than desired. It was tough to do at first but through proper technique learned through a local teaching pro I developed a higher level of play. Of course, this is not for everyone’s style and preference but it works for me and many top pros.
Yep, makes sense the way you described. Will try leaving feedback on there soon. Cheers.I like to chime in, since i like his website and is a nice guy. Red the review, skipped the video. Usually he likes 95 frames more and plays with 23kg tour bite. Not Sure if the latter is what he used in the tc100 but i wouldn’t be the best set up. Next, he plays usually with 320+ frames like RF/ yonex 330 and he leaded up the babolat he is comparing it to. Hence in the end not his best review since comparing apples to oranges. He would love to comment on it below his review if you would write it down there is my expectation.
needs to keep a lock on the fridge.Will we see a tc100 at Wimbledon? Tara Moore using the tc100!
I like to chime in, since i like his website and is a nice guy. Red the review, skipped the video. Usually he likes 95 frames more and plays with 23kg tour bite. Not Sure if the latter is what he used in the tc100 but i wouldn’t be the best set up. Next, he plays usually with 320+ frames like RF/ yonex 330 and he leaded up the babolat he is comparing it to. Hence in the end not his best review since comparing apples to oranges. He would love to comment on it below his review if you would write it down there is my expectation.
If anyone is looking for a string to try in their angell, I very much recommend weiss cannon scorpion 1.22 @ 54lbs. I feel it gives the spin of a poly but its very comfy too - quite an unusual experience and pretty cheap too. Has very good ratings on stringforum.net
Did you get to the part that any string works as it’s not string sensitive? I just disagreed with so much he said
I like to chime in, since i like his website and is a nice guy. Red the review, skipped the video. Usually he likes 95 frames more and plays with 23kg tour bite. Not Sure if the latter is what he used in the tc100 but i wouldn’t be the best set up. Next, he plays usually with 320+ frames like RF/ yonex 330 and he leaded up the babolat he is comparing it to. Hence in the end not his best review since comparing apples to oranges. He would love to comment on it below his review if you would write it down there is my expectation.
Yeah, power and how heavy a ball you generate is not an issue at all with TC100 63RA. We didn’t name it Thor’s hammer for nothing. It is best matched with a string that is lower powered, comfy and at least a bit connected. I settled on hyper-g 16g @53lbs. I upped tension a bit with hyper-g since it plays a bit lively.I confess I follow and enjoy his reviews. Up till recently he was playing with the Angell K7 red and was very complimentary about it. He’s been that way about all the Angell frames so far but ‘committed ‘ to the K7 for a while. May even still be. He did say he’s been trying a heavily customised Babolat Soft Drive lately which is such a different racket in comparison to a TC100 or his usual ones, and he’s recovering from a knee injury. So there’s a few variables at play here. I’d love to know how he compares the TC100 with the K7.
I was a bit surprised to hear the TC100 was low powered though as it’s not my experience and it’s also been my experience that it IS quite string sensitive. I would agree that it’s not as powerful as a Pure Drive or Pure Strike though but then they are very powerful rackets but it’s more powerful than many other 100ish inch ones such as Head Speed, AeroPro Drive , Ezones that I have tried.
On string sensitivity for example I am currently trying RS Lyon at 48 but not liking it much. Spin is noticeably less than am used to and am hitting long too much unless I really exaggerate the topspin. (sorry folks as I know RSL is very popular around here - and that’s why I’m trying it!).
I got rather more playability and spin and comfort with my prior set ups of Rpm main and syngut crosses and also from a full bed of Wilson revolve, so I’ll be trying something else next )
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The new arrivals, along with a coupe of existing rackets. In the picture are 4 x Custom V3 TC95 63RA 16x19, 2 x Custom V3 TC100 63RA, Custom Classic TC97 18x20 and Custom Classic TC100 63RA.
I've never received a courier delivery on a Sunday, but I'll take it. Busy stringing last night so the wife and I can take the new rackets for their inaugural hit tonight (now preying the weather behaves).
From a simple bounce of the ball on the kitchen floor (a ritual in our place when I string a racket LOL) it feels VERY nice. I cannot wait to hit these bad boys!
Yeah, power and how heavy a ball you generate is not an issue at all with TC100 63RA. We didn’t name it Thor’s hammer for nothing. It is best matched with a string that is lower powered, comfy and at least a bit connected. I settled on hyper-g 16g @53lbs. I upped tension a bit with hyper-g since it plays a bit lively.
They look absolutely glorious... making me drool... Can't wait to hear your thoughts and impressions.
*wipes drool off the floor*
The new arrivals, along with a coupe of existing rackets. In the picture are 4 x Custom V3 TC95 63RA 16x19, 2 x Custom V3 TC100 63RA, Custom Classic TC97 18x20 and Custom Classic TC100 63RA.
I've never received a courier delivery on a Sunday, but I'll take it. Busy stringing last night so the wife and I can take the new rackets for their inaugural hit tonight (now preying the weather behaves).
From a simple bounce of the ball on the kitchen floor (a ritual in our place when I string a racket LOL) it feels VERY nice. I cannot wait to hit these bad boys!
I love the look of the copper rackets.
Currently playing with TC95 but thinking of getting a V3 TC97.
Apart from getting a little more power, slightly bigger sweet spot, what else will this offer, and what might I lose? thanks
I love the look of the copper rackets.
Currently playing with TC95 but thinking of getting a V3 TC97.
Apart from getting a little more power, slightly bigger seet spot, what else will this offer, and what might I lose? thanks
Lower launch angle with tc97 will be noticeable, some people report tc97 is more stable than tc95, I didn’t notice any stability issues with the tc95.
I’m not sure about tc97 having more power that’s debateable lol.
Definitely not lack of power. I hit with lots of topspin with any racquet, the TC100 just gives me that very heavy ball effect. I have hit with Blade 98S and enjoyed that stick but it does not have the power level as the TC100. Also the TC100 is more stable than the blade. I eventually dropped the 98S because the trajectory was too high over the net and it was hard to hit flatter shots from my 2HB. So far I feel the trajectory of the TC100 can be tamed lower than the 98S; but I’m still experimenting. The strings I have on TC100 are a little too loose so a tighter adjustment is in order.This last second dip you mention, do you feel you overhit the ball? Just wondering as could this be attributed to a dip in power? Or do you hit heavy topspin?
I had this with a few spin frames I hit with, prostaff 95s and blade 98s, these were more open patterns thAn the tc100.
Had a few opponents call the ball out before it had bounced, very amusing at the time.
I’ve really changed my game without actually meaning to over the last few years, I hit much flatter than before , ball really penetrates the court and lower over the net, I still have the heavier topspin option when needed.
Interesting- my wife uses a kTour. How does the Angell play compared to the kTour?
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less spin... that extra surprising D beam spinI love the look of the copper rackets.
Currently playing with TC95 but thinking of getting a V3 TC97.
Apart from getting a little more power, slightly bigger sweet spot, what else will this offer, and what might I lose? thanks
Lower launch angle with tc97 will be noticeable, some people report tc97 is more stable than tc95, I didn’t notice any stability issues with the tc95.
I’m not sure about tc97 having more power that’s debateable lol.
The new arrivals, along with a coupe of existing rackets. In the picture are 4 x Custom V3 TC95 63RA 16x19, 2 x Custom V3 TC100 63RA, Custom Classic TC97 18x20 and Custom Classic TC100 63RA.
I've never received a courier delivery on a Sunday, but I'll take it. Busy stringing last night so the wife and I can take the new rackets for their inaugural hit tonight (now preying the weather behaves).
From a simple bounce of the ball on the kitchen floor (a ritual in our place when I string a racket LOL) it feels VERY nice. I cannot wait to hit these bad boys!
I disagree, I think the TC97 has a higher launch angle, less power/plow than TC95 63RA. The main thing the TC97 has going for it is that it is more maneuverable in the same weight/balance due to lower SW. It also has less power so you can swing through and not get some of the rockets the TC95 shoots out.
These look nice, how come the two V3's on the right look more orange rather than copper?
I also found the tc97 to have a lower launch angle. In addition, I found the tc97 to be more comfortable, but I think I could be in the minority in that regard. Different strokes for different folks......(pun intended).Your definitely in the minority of people who think the tc97 launches higher than the tc95 for me the tc95 was considerably higher. I’m talking 16x19’s.
The K7 uses the TC95/TC97 grommets and i used those stringing instructions. I didn’t compare to my TC100 so I’m not sure if they are the same. Angell FB page will give u stringing instruction in the photos section.Couldn't resist any longer and ordered a K7 to see if it is really as comfortable as people claim.
I assume the stringing instruction is the same as for a 16x19 tc100?
These look nice, how come the two V3's on the right look more orange rather than copper?