Final Slam count of Novak?
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tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Fed has played 7 tournaments this year, won 3 titles and reached finals of 2 others. Had MP in the 2 early losses..just sayin ..he signed a 300 million dollar deal. He is not going anywhere
He may not have 2017-18 level of success but he will be around like 2014-16
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
abmk
Bionic Poster
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
I would say 16 is the optimistic scenario
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Federer won 3 after 35 yet I'm on a high because I think Djokovic will 4 more and he's 31 years old?
I see him winning 4 more Slams and after that I don't know.Plus he has a very good shot at two nice records; winning all Masters and winning every slam twice. I can see him do it.Federer won 3 after 35 yet I'm on a high because I think Djokovic will in 4 more and he's 31 years old?
Raining hopes
Hall of Fame
16-17 for me if he played longer
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Federer won 3 after 35 yet I'm on a high because I think Djokovic will in 4 more and he's 31 years old?
There are no right or wrong answers. Federer has set a model for the open era to show it can be done and is a path setter
But you are also seeing many top players fade away at the 33/34 age
abmk
Bionic Poster
Federer won 3 after 35 yet I'm on a high because I think Djokovic will in 4 more and he's 31 years old?
Federer won 4 slams after turning 30.
you think Djoko is a "lock" to win 5 slams after turning 30/31 (he's already won 1 now) ?
that'd be the record after the early open era years. so hell yeah, you are on a high.
Djoko could win 4 more slams, but he sure as hell is no lock for it.
2 more is realistic, 3 is on the optimistic side, 4 if he can really keep it up and has some real good fortune.
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
Djokovic has historically never done all that well at USO. He's 2-5 in USO finals. And he was lucky to reach 2 of those finals. I can see several players beating him at USO this year including Del Potro, Cilic, Federer, Nadal, Zverev, Isner, Stan and others if Djokovic isn't able to replicate the same form as his Wimbledon run.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Another RG would be amazing for his career but trust and believe Rafa will make it hell for him to get it. It's possible though. I think he will get the Masters record.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
It's my opinion and I don't feel like going back and forth with you for 5 pages today, when my favorite player just won Wimbledon. You believe what you think will happen and I will believe what I think will happen. Have a good day.
With his current serve he should have a very good shot at Cincy18. FO will be tougher, but far from impossible.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Also Djokovic is clearly not the 2015 level at this time . He continues to get perturbed in tight situations and we will see how that works in high octane matches
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
True. Federer showed it can be done and the field is not exactly strong. I don't see it strengthening drastically in the near future. I think he said today that he wants to play a lot longer, as long as Federer. We will see how his body holds up and his motivation.
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abmk
Bionic Poster
It's my opinion and I don't feel like going back and forth with you for 5 pages today, when my favorite player just won Wimbledon. You believe what you think will happen and I will believe what I think will happen. Have a good day.
That's why I am saying you are on a high.
I will bring this one up again some time in the future and maybe you'll realise when you come down from the high.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
He needs a good draw at Cincy and avoid Federer and I think he could win it. RG is going to be really tough and he has to go through Nadal to get it most likely. But he's the only guy who can probably beat him there so it's not impossible.
upchuck
Hall of Fame
This is a strange thing to say considering it's his composure in tight positions, whether against Nadal or Anderson, that defines this victory. Regardless, with the win his confidence will skyrocket. His stamina will improve. And he will win more and more. He immediately becomes the default favorite to win the next two hardcourt slams.
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
Rafa would need to have a significant drop off to lose RG to Nole, no matter how high some of his fans are after this win.
Let's remember that Novak barely beat Rafa on indoor grass. He'll be lucky to even push Rafa in this form to 5 in Paris, let alone win.
Djokodal Fan
Hall of Fame
I will honest here. If someone said that he will be sitting on 13 slams during the start of the wimbledon, I wouldn't have believed it.
There is no use predicting final numbers. Like how Fed fans enjoyed his recent resurgence, I will do the same and cherish Djoker's slam wins than harping on slam counts and stats.
Real tennis fans would understand what I mean. enjoy the moment, leave the rest.
There are only few years left for big three. enjoy while it lasts
There is no use predicting final numbers. Like how Fed fans enjoyed his recent resurgence, I will do the same and cherish Djoker's slam wins than harping on slam counts and stats.
Real tennis fans would understand what I mean. enjoy the moment, leave the rest.
There are only few years left for big three. enjoy while it lasts
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Probably but it's not impossible. Let's remind ourselves that Djokovic in the SF was not Djokovic at his absolute best which is why that match was so close. He was 1/6 on breakpoints in both sets 2 and 4 in multiple Rafa service games and Rafa was 2/3 in both sets. Djokovic at his best did not let opportunities like that slip through his fingers and he would not have been so hesitant to attack Rafa's forehand side. Djokovic is the better grass court player and that is clear. Also, he's pushed Rafa to 5 in Paris before and he has beaten him so like I said, it's not impossible.
upchuck
Hall of Fame
You say this like Nadal barely lost to a Djokovic that played with all the confidence in the world, as opposed to a Djokovic on the mend who is ranked 21.
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
nevermind tennis rivalries, abmk and nolefam are the best.
D
Deleted member 512391
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Definitely the best TTW rivalry.
Definitely the best TTW rivalry.
What about abmk and the order?
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
its all so hard to say, right after French 2016 people were saying he was headed to break fed's record, which at the time was 17. I could see novak getting to 16/17. I don't think he's done winning slams.
knowing my luck rafa and novak will either be above 20 or like 1 away from it.
knowing my luck rafa and novak will either be above 20 or like 1 away from it.
TennisFan3
Talk Tennis Guru
Until proven otherwise, Nadal is a HEAVY favorite on RG. He's only lost to Nole once there and that too on his worst year in 2015.
Novak is not always a lock to even make the final in RG. Where as Nadal usually is. In any potential Nadal-Djoko match at RG, Nadal would be heavily favored.
It is not impossible that Djokovic should beat Rafa at RG, but it is highly improbable.
Also if Nadal is getting older, so too is Djokovic. And Rafa's game adapts better on clay than Djokovic's. Nadal has less chances of being upset there than Djokovic does.
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
I think nolefam even though we have different opinions at times is much more pleasant and sane....can't say same for things that the order posts
Eye Test
Rookie
2008 had peak rafa and peak fed( aside from a mono episode during the first quarter of the season)
Plus Nole coming of age.
2010 wasnt strong neither was it weak.
It was just average.
2004-2007 had what?
Old agassi, teen nadal, hewitt, roddick, nalbandian?
LMAO, is that supposed to be a decent competition?
Fed, as much as i like him didnt have to face a single all time great in his prime during that period.
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Deleted member 512391
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It seems to me that abmk has given up on that rivalry.
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
but for the past 1.5 years or more the 30+ delivered a lot more than the 25+
Red Rick
Bionic Poster
The problem here is that players can lose Slam winning form quickly, and then they're a long way from home.
The other problem is the extreme uselessness of all the younger players. The big 4 at their current best are better than current young players will be at their peak I believe.
So I feel the range where he could end up is pretty wide, but gun against my head I'll probably say 15/16 or something. It feels very unlikely this is his last and I also can't imagine him getting more than 18 at this point.
The other problem is the extreme uselessness of all the younger players. The big 4 at their current best are better than current young players will be at their peak I believe.
So I feel the range where he could end up is pretty wide, but gun against my head I'll probably say 15/16 or something. It feels very unlikely this is his last and I also can't imagine him getting more than 18 at this point.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
We all know that Rafa is the heavy favorite at RG as always. What else is new? No one is denying that. Djokovic is Nadal's greatest rival and I think we all have accepted that. If Rafa is not at his absolute best and Djokvoic is then yes it's possible for Djokovci to beat him there. I don't see why this has some of you riled up.
Red Rick
Bionic Poster
There once was a playbook for what was normal to do after 30.
Federer shredded it
Nadal burned it
And now Djokovic has thrown away the ashes
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
pretty much, listen i'm here hoping my fav still has 1 more left in before the w/e gen we will be on actually does something useful.
GabeT
G.O.A.T.
Yes. People need to stop talking about what can or can’t be done after 30 in tennis based on historical records. This is a whole new ball game.
aman92
Legend
It won't always be this way...I know we like to ridicule them to no end...but the next gen will breakthrough at some point. Fedalovic will find it hard to stay away from injuries at this point
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
to be fair, fed also had to deal with a few atgs when he was getting up there, the field is either mostly 30+ people or young guns who can't do ****.
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
i would like to know when though.
You’re not fooling anyone.
AO: 2007 González = 2008 Tsonga
RG: 2007 Federer >>>>> 2008 Federer
W: 2007 Rafa > 2008 Federer
USO: 2007 Djokovic > 2008 Murray
Not to mention Federer was clearly tougher on clay in general in 2007 than 2008 (actually won a match vs Rafa)
2007 slam winners all had tougher or equal opponents than 2008.
2010 is below 2004-2007. Even 2006 is tougher considering Federer had Nadal on clay and Nadal had no one on clay or grass.
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
lol stop lying please, no one is buying it. also if that was the case old fed was pretty much the only competition in like 2015.
Zetty
Hall of Fame
You don't mess with the bad guy...
Fedforever
Hall of Fame
I agree. I think deep down inside he felt that No 20 was the perfect ending. If it wasn't for Nadal chasing the record I think that would definitely be it. He may now leave it up to Djoko to protect the slam record.
But if Djoko does go on a tear now it puts an interesting twist on the three slams of 17/18. It would basically seem like he had three years (14-16) of patiently waiting for Djoko to slip up - coping with the disappointments, keeping his game up and as soon as Djoko did slip he pounced and as a bonus getting the chance to even things up again with Nadal.
If say, Djoko ends up on 17 slams that's going to seem like a heck of a smart move from Fed.
BHServe
Semi-Pro
Agree. I don’t get why so many set certain age after which winning slam is almost impossible according to them. Federer has already shown that if competition is what it is, winning slams at 34-36 isn’t out of question at all for players of Federer and Djokovic calibre.
At this point Djokovic surpassing Federer seems highly unlikely, but if the competition stays this weak in the future and Djokovic takes another 3 years dominant period, it is not completely out of question.
