tennisgurl
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Off course, unless both your K7 and TC 95 came very light. Then it is definitely possible to end up with ending weights you mentioned.
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tennisgurl
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tennisgurl
Semi-Pro
Will know soon enough, mine will be arriving shortly. I'm kinds skeptical now since @saleem mentioned that even the owner knows about quality drop. Wish I had grabbed a few last year when I had the chance.
In this post I told about my problems with a replacement grommet set being very brittle and having 11 damaged grommets after 20 hours play on the first string job. I replaced that set with my last replacement set, and although it felt softer when I installed it, after 3 hours of play there's already 1 split grommet. I got these grommet sets in 3/2017 when I bought my racket. Must have been part of a bad batch.
Where's the best place to order more grommet sets in the US, advancedracquets?
Where's the best place to order more grommet sets in the US, advancedracquets?
@Gee is using Head RIP Control which is a very light string, one pack of Head RIP Control 1.20 weights 15.5 g and one pack of poly 21 - 22 g, so you are not exactly comparing apples to apples.
Gee
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Indeed that is what I would like to add. A full Head RIP Control adds about 12-13 grams.
Regarding the weight of my TC95 I now remember again that Paul added 3 grams at 12 (because I wanted to order a frame with a higher swingweight) that I removed and after that I placed 4 grams at 10-11. So the weight unstrung should be ca. 331 grams. Together with Yonex SG Overgrip (5 grams) and strings (13 grams) and dampener (2 grams) makes 351 grams in total. (Hereby I estimated the weights of the parts as I didn't weigh each part exactly).
haqq777
Legend
You are incorrect. Full bed 17 gauge Hyper G comes to 16g-17g in a 18x20 TC97. And like I said in my earlier post, a maximum 2-3 gram difference is understandable. HEAD RIP Control is 15g. There is no way there is a difference of 6-7g like you are suggesting.
haqq777
Legend
Not sure what to tell you since I actually have measured each thing mentioned here individually on a calibrated scale and your counts are off. A Yonex SG is not 5g. It is minimum 7g, more if you don't trim. I used HEAD RIP Control myself in my APD and PD and then in my Dunlop NT Tour which is same pattern as my TC97 and they measure 15g, never less. Anyway, best of luck to you.
Faris
Professional
I currently have head RIP Control 18 in my TC95. The strings weigh 15g on the dot. It does not weighh any less than that. And I have strung mine up multiple times. With polys it is maybe 2g more. When I used thicker YPTP 17, it came out 2 grams more at 17g. A poly vs multi isn't going to give you 7 or 8 gram difference like you are making it out to be. That is too big a difference.
tennisgurl
Semi-Pro
Well @haqq777 already replied to you but just to reiterate, a full poly in 18x20 once strung doesn't come to "21-22g" like you are saying. I use a 100 sq inch Head Graphene 360 Speed Pro at times. My string weight comes to barely 18 grams. I use Solinco Tourbite 1.25 which is a full poly and thicker than 1.20. And we are talking about TC95 here, not even 100 square inches head size. String type differences are not usually more than 2 -2.5 grams.
Here just to be clear want one pack of uninstalled string means: https://photos.app.goo.gl/CeUvZXza7Bs2EgNj8
I am using a jewelry scale with a 0.1 g precision.
I am using a jewelry scale with a 0.1 g precision.
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tennisgurl
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I understand, I wasn't taking it too seriously by any means. Was just giving you my humble take as I have seen myself. Off course as you mentioned your experience has been different. Also, I was talking about strung up racquets. I measure my racquet unstrung and then after it has been strung (with just addition of strings). Difference gives me weight of strings. And my specs are measured on my local pro shops RDC unit.
haqq777
Legend
Since we were talking grips and accessories, I thought I would share this here. It is an excellent resource for grip weights and sizes:
https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...pecs-weight-thickness-into-one-thread.465717/
I think Angell leather wasn't updated in there. But I took a picture of all of my leather grips taken off from racquets as they were installed from Angell. They came in at 20g installed, on the dot. Both tan and black. Hope that helps whoever is looking for such specs.
I also shared pictures way back on this thread of Angell Synthetic ones that came off of TC100 and TC95 racquets. They were 13.3g and 13.1g. Will share them if I find them in my computer or phone. So you are basically looking at another 7-8 grams or whereabouts when you plan to switch from synthetic to leather (within Angell brand). More, if you choose heavier leather grips like those from Oehms, Volkl or Fairway.
https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...pecs-weight-thickness-into-one-thread.465717/
I think Angell leather wasn't updated in there. But I took a picture of all of my leather grips taken off from racquets as they were installed from Angell. They came in at 20g installed, on the dot. Both tan and black. Hope that helps whoever is looking for such specs.
I also shared pictures way back on this thread of Angell Synthetic ones that came off of TC100 and TC95 racquets. They were 13.3g and 13.1g. Will share them if I find them in my computer or phone. So you are basically looking at another 7-8 grams or whereabouts when you plan to switch from synthetic to leather (within Angell brand). More, if you choose heavier leather grips like those from Oehms, Volkl or Fairway.
tennisgurl
Semi-Pro
Very nice. I think Oehms will need to be updated in that link after what Saleem mentioned above. I really hope my Oehms I have ordered arent like those cheap flimsy grips. I just don't want to be disappointed after hearing such raving reviews of Oehms from a lot of posters here.Since we were talking grips and accessories, I thought I would share this here. It is an excellent resource for grip weights and sizes:
https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...pecs-weight-thickness-into-one-thread.465717/
I think Angell leather wasn't updated in there. But I took a picture of all of my leather grips taken off from racquets as they were installed from Angell. They came in at 20g installed, on the dot. Both tan and black. Hope that helps whoever is looking for such specs.
I also shared pictures way back on this thread of Angell Synthetic ones that came off of TC100 and TC95 racquets. They were 13.3g and 13.1g. Will share them if I find them in my computer or phone. So you are basically looking at another 7-8 grams or whereabouts when you plan to switch from synthetic to leather (within Angell brand). More, if you choose heavier leather grips like those from Oehms, Volkl or Fairway.
Gee
Hall of Fame
I also hope so.
topspn
Legend
You had to trim quite a bit of the Oehms to match the Angell grip weight. I suspect around 7-8g but did it shorten the Oehms too much?Since we were talking grips and accessories, I thought I would share this here. It is an excellent resource for grip weights and sizes:
https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...pecs-weight-thickness-into-one-thread.465717/
I think Angell leather wasn't updated in there. But I took a picture of all of my leather grips taken off from racquets as they were installed from Angell. They came in at 20g installed, on the dot. Both tan and black. Hope that helps whoever is looking for such specs.
I also shared pictures way back on this thread of Angell Synthetic ones that came off of TC100 and TC95 racquets. They were 13.3g and 13.1g. Will share them if I find them in my computer or phone. So you are basically looking at another 7-8 grams or whereabouts when you plan to switch from synthetic to leather (within Angell brand). More, if you choose heavier leather grips like those from Oehms, Volkl or Fairway.
haqq777
Legend
Yep, close to 5g actually if I recall correctly. No it didn't shorten it because the grip was long enough and I stretched it well too before wrapping. I think mine was 25g untrimmed (will have to double check but I think that's right) so it wasn't hard to bring it down to 20g. Took me a few tries though as it was by trial and error. But doable for sure.
Paulo Braz
Semi-Pro
Any more review from K7 Lime?
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topspn
Legend
I have a previously used Angell leather that measures 19g and you’re right about Oehms. I have a new one with backing on it and measures 25g. Good to know it doesn’t get to short.
t_pac
Semi-Pro
I’m hoping to string and modify mine tonight ready for some dubs tomorrow [emoji16]
Paulo Braz
Semi-Pro
Perfect. When testing post your review please. Good test tomorrow.
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galapagos
Hall of Fame
I recently bought tc95 63ra 16x19 and k7 lime 
now I just need to pick the one that will be my main racquet So far I played with tc 95 16x19 v3 and I am quite surprised with the control it offers. I had absolutely no issues going from my tc95 18x20. Perhaps different string setups but still... very good racquet! It seems I just love tc95 design no matter the string pattern.
now I just need to pick the one that will be my main racquet So far I played with tc 95 16x19 v3 and I am quite surprised with the control it offers. I had absolutely no issues going from my tc95 18x20. Perhaps different string setups but still... very good racquet! It seems I just love tc95 design no matter the string pattern.Paulo Braz
Semi-Pro
Got to test the K7 Lime?I recently bought tc95 63ra 16x19 and k7 lime
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saleem
Semi-Pro
here is a good tip for the leather grip, 2-3 times a season remove overgrip, apply castor oil liberally on the leather grip let it sit for 6-8 hours and re do your overgrip, it makes your leather grip very soft and comfortable again.
Paulo Braz
Semi-Pro
recsoares
Rookie
Ready to go!
Way too heavy for me...
Give us the setup for such high weight.leather grip+overgrip + lead(where and grs)?
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t_pac
Semi-Pro
Would be easy enough to keep the weight down - played stock it should be about 332/31/320.
My setup:
Monogut ZX / Velocity @ 56/54
Wilson Shockshield
Babolat VS Overgrip
3g tape at the top of the hoop
348g, 31.6cm, 330sw
All matched (within 2g) of my Reds. Wanted to keep everything the same to give a fair comparison.
Will give my thoughts on how it plays tomorrow.
My setup:
Monogut ZX / Velocity @ 56/54
Wilson Shockshield
Babolat VS Overgrip
3g tape at the top of the hoop
348g, 31.6cm, 330sw
All matched (within 2g) of my Reds. Wanted to keep everything the same to give a fair comparison.
Will give my thoughts on how it plays tomorrow.
recsoares
Rookie
How much grs for the Wilson Shock Shield grip?is it heavier than most of leather grips?
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recsoares
Rookie
Yes,7-8 grs extra like for the average of leather grips,i think so...
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Paulo Braz
Semi-Pro
What is the weight of the racket with rope, without dampener and overgrip?
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saleem
Semi-Pro
it should be - 7-8 grams of his total 348 -8 = 340
t_pac
Semi-Pro
Didn't weigh each component, but based on my reds specs the rough weights are
Stock frame - 315g
Strings - 18g
Shockshield - 8g
OG - 4g
Lead - 3g
Total - 348g
Frame, lead and OG weights are definitely correct. Maybe a gram or so variance in strings and shockshield (e.g. strings could be 17g, SS could be 9g) but the above will be pretty close.
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t_pac
Semi-Pro
Pretty much!
This setup has enabled me to rehab and fix a pretty chronic elbow injury, despite continuing to play an average of three times a week.
Paulo Braz
Semi-Pro
Got it. Do not forget to put your review when testing hahah
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Would be nice to know if the extra 10g the Lime has over the Red alleviates the lack of plough of the k7 red in its standard form. I’d expect / want a solid frame for something that’s going to be about 334g strung, shouldn’t have to mess about adding weight to a racquet with these kind of specs.
recsoares
Rookie
Exactly what I need too!
333 grs is my sweet number according other past frames.
Honestly,I think 334/334 is impossible to achieve with the K7 Lime,unless you play stock with very light strings(wich ones??)...no overgrip,no dampener,nothing else
recsoares
Rookie
Right!
Hope it has a little more power and at least the same control than the K7 Red...
For sure,a frame for long swings,I think.
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Paulo Braz
Semi-Pro
I do not think there's a plow in K7. She found the K7 Red with the same level of plow as the Tc 95, even more stable than it. What is missing from tc95 is power with control.
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Paulo Braz
Semi-Pro
The K7 Red is a racket that generates power with quick swing. So much that in the draw always I was able to draw in the same speed and power that I took with tc95.
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haqq777
Legend
Switched out my leather grip today and went back to Angell synthetic for a little bit. Had been feeling a little ginger in the wrist area. I had a case of wrist tendonitis couple of years back and I always feel a little bit better switching to softer replacement grips and going down static weight every now and then. When I feel 100% I switch back to leather + OG, my favorite setup.
My static weight is down to exactly 335g now (with Lux Elite OG and a dampener).
I don't anticipate any less stability as TC97 is one stable stick with a very consistent repsonse. I didn't add any weight to tail so balance will become a couple points or so more even. Will see how the racquet plays. It is easy to tail weight regardless so not worried about that.
I love leather + OG so I am not expecting to be wowed. But we will see. Best thing about all this is you can customize and adjust to what you want/need.
My static weight is down to exactly 335g now (with Lux Elite OG and a dampener).
I don't anticipate any less stability as TC97 is one stable stick with a very consistent repsonse. I didn't add any weight to tail so balance will become a couple points or so more even. Will see how the racquet plays. It is easy to tail weight regardless so not worried about that.
I love leather + OG so I am not expecting to be wowed. But we will see. Best thing about all this is you can customize and adjust to what you want/need.
I would expect it to have less power. 16x19 generally has more power. It seems like this is the red with 18x20 pattern and 10g in the butt. for sure control will be better. Although i really liked the control on the K7 Red. No lack of power on the red for me either.