The good news is that I like Isner so whoever wins it's a win-win. See, but Djokodal fans are the opposite. If Isner beat their guy they would say oh those serve bots suck. Instead of being happy for some other guy beating their hero.Federer is 0-3 in M1000 finals since the start of 2018, he's just not good enough to finish tournaments off anymore.
2019 AO Champion - N. Djokovic.Race to YE No 1 on April 1, 2019
NO 1. Roger Federer (Switzerland) - Age 38
2019 AO Champion - N. Djokovic.
Woke.
They just hate us seeing us Fed fans happy. They are jealous because we can derive happiness from Fed even from early rounds of 500 tournament. That is because we admire Fed mostly for his skills and style, but they are in it for the glory and can only be fulfilled if their guys are winning majors anything less is not enough for them.What's with this sudden renewed hating of Federer?
Did Djokodal fans get a little too cocky a couple of months back and are feeling the heat again now? Oh dear haha
He hasn't even won this yet ffs, at least wait until then
The good news is that I like Isner so whoever wins it's a win-win. See, but Djokodal fans are the opposite. If Isner beat their guy they would say oh those serve bots suck. Instead of being happy for some other guy beating their hero.
Good observation. Fed has the most majors and all the important records yet his fans are always thrilled with every match he wins and every small tournament victory.They just hate us seeing us Fed fans happy. They are jealous because we can derive happiness from Fed even from early rounds of 500 tournament. That is because we admire Fed mostly for his skills and style, but they are in it for the glory and can only be fulfilled if their guys are winning majors anything less is not enough for them.
It's like someone who can be happy with little and they hate that they can't do that . This is why the hate.
No, Djokodal fans are way worse in this regard. Because as I said they derive their pleasure from glory but Fed fans derive their pleasure from glory but also from Fed's style. Fed fans love to see Fed in 2nd round of Dubai and watch highlights and be happy, but Djokodal fans are 100% in it for titles and can only be happy if their guy wins a major. Anything less and they can't enjoy it. Just listen to how they talk and how they leave when their guys aren't winning majors. But Fed fans we are here and cocky even when Fed 1st round of a 500 tournament and admire his shotmaking.You think the Federer fans on here are any different? If anything they are measurably worse in this regard.
No, Djokodal fans are way worse in this regard. Because as I said they derive their pleasure from glory but Fed fans derive their pleasure from glory but also from Fed's style. Fed fans love to see Fed in 2nd round of Dubai and watch highlights and be happy, but Djokodal fans are 100% in it for titles and can only be happy if their guy wins a major. Anything less and they can't enjoy it. Just listen to how they talk and how they leave when their guys aren't winning majors. But Fed fans we are here and cocky even when Fed 1st round of a 500 tournament and admire his shotmaking.
Yes, I mean sure we care about the record too, but not as obsessed as them, they have some inferiority complex. We can say ok at least we get to see Fed's great funny interviews and shots even when he loses and his quirky family. But slam wins is all the Djokodal fans have. Not to mention we also derive pleasure from watching older greats similar to Fed's style, they think 2008 is where tennis history started.Good observation. Fed has the most majors and all the important records yet his fans are always thrilled with every match he wins and every small tournament victory.
What do you mean "sudden?" Fed jealously/hate has been ubiquitous here for 13 years.What's with this sudden renewed hating of Federer?
No, it's you who isn't observing. We are trolling you when we make excuses for Federer, we are trying to show you how you guys sound, we don't actually mean it lol. When we say clay doesn't count or AO was slowed down, we aren't serious it's a parody to mock you guys. Inside joke of ours and you don't even see it. The fact that you take us seriously is the proof how unobservant you are.You're either trolling or you're the most unobservant poster on here lol. Anything less and they can't enjoy it?!?!? If anything the Fed fans only are happy when he wins, otherwise they're either mad about conditions or mad at Fed for overplaying. Thanks for the good laugh. I don't think any of the reasonable Fed fans on here would agree with you at all on this.
No, Djokodal fans are way worse in this regard. Because as I said they derive their pleasure from glory but Fed fans derive their pleasure from glory but also from Fed's style. Fed fans love to see Fed in 2nd round of Dubai and watch highlights and be happy, but Djokodal fans are 100% in it for titles and can only be happy if their guy wins a major. Anything less and they can't enjoy it. Just listen to how they talk and how they leave when their guys aren't winning majors. But Fed fans we are here and cocky even when Fed 1st round of a 500 tournament and admire his shotmaking.
Whoa, stop, this isn't true. I am saying that as I am one of them. In fact I am the longest lasting Djokovic fan here, before even his 2011 run, and it was never about the titles or the glory of winning the slams. Some of us just like watching someone other than Federer a little bit more, and there is nothing wrong with that.
What's with this sudden renewed hating of Federer?
Did Djokodal fans get a little too cocky a couple of months back and are feeling the heat again now? Oh dear haha
He hasn't even won this yet ffs, at least wait until then
You're either trolling or you're the most unobservant poster on here lol. Anything less and they can't enjoy it?!?!? If anything the Fed fans only are happy when he wins, otherwise they're either mad about conditions or mad at Fed for overplaying. Thanks for the good laugh. I don't think any of the reasonable Fed fans on here would agree with you at all on this.
Fed gives a walkover and Murray comes out to play an exhibition set.I am intrigued to know who is @Red Rick going to root for ?
Is the preferred scenario a lose-lose match or a finals washout ?
Race to YE No 1 on April 1, 2019
NO 1. Roger Federer (Switzerland) - Age 38
I doubt Fed can beat Shapo.
I'll be back tomorrow to jubilantly celebrate when Shapo beats Fed
What's with this sudden renewed hating of Federer?
Did Djokodal fans get a little too cocky a couple of months back and are feeling the heat again now? Oh dear haha
He hasn't even won this yet ffs, at least wait until then
Yeah I don't think it's so much about feeling threatened as it is that some folks (some Nadal and Djok fans) have been dunking on Fed this year and saying he's finished etc and now they're having to go on the defensive.I don't think any Djokovic fan consider Fed a threat , infact I'm happy that Fed is also in the mix to compete. How are you bro?
Fed played at very high level in 2 Wimbledon few years back and still lost to Djokovic so I'm not worried. Yes, some fans may like to troll other fan base when a particular player is not doing well , this is also a part of rivalry .I personally don't mind anyone announcing decline of Djokovic after Miami. We are truly living in a banger era.Yeah I don't think it's so much about feeling threatened as it is that some folks (some Nadal and Djok fans) have been dunking on Fed this year and saying he's finished etc and now they're having to go on the defensive.
Who knows what would happen if Fed and Djok actually played right now. I'd still favour Djokovic to win
Whoa, stop, this isn't true. I am saying that as I am one of them. In fact I am the longest lasting Djokovic fan here, before even his 2011 run, and it was never about the titles or the glory of winning the slams. Some of us just like watching someone other than Federer a little bit more, and there is nothing wrong with that.
Ok,but if you are you are closeted, you post too little praise an awe about Nole's game in public here for me to think of you as a real fan. True fan goes out there and praises Nole's attributes and analyses them in details and praises how his opponents exploited his weakness and go into details what Nole could change or not and learn and talk about history of the sport and how Nole is seen in context and so on.Whoa, stop, this isn't true. I am saying that as I am one of them. In fact I am the longest lasting Djokovic fan here, before even his 2011 run, and it was never about the titles or the glory of winning the slams. Some of us just like watching someone other than Federer a little bit more, and there is nothing wrong with that.
Suresh is actually a huge Federer fan.
For recognizing how trends are going? You are basing your views based on your own personal experience, I don't do that. You probably see 10 radical Fed fans and conclude all fanbase is like that. But when I see 10 radical Djokodal fans, I know that just a few members don't speak for the group, I'm not that emotional, I'm not basing my views on personal experience at all. It's about recognizing numbers of polls and on what % of topics Djokodal fans are focusing on, it's basically based on stats and math. And the fact you disagree with me proves this fact.Agree. I'm looking on with bemusement at Jack Gates' account during this posting spree.
The member seems to have started with tone-deaf but at least sincere intent, and then become quickly radicalized.
For recognizing how trends are going? You are basing your views based on your own personal experience, I don't do that. You probably see 10 radical Fed fans and conclude all fanbase is like that. But when I see 10 radical Djokodal fans, I know that just a few members don't speak for the group, I'm not that emotional, I'm not basing my views on personal experience at all. It's about recognizing numbers of polls and on what % of topics Djokodal fans are focusing on, it's basically based on stats and math. And the fact you disagree with me proves this fact.
Let's say I say men are stronger than women. But then 30 of your best friends are female MMA fighters. You will then say, hey Jack you are crazy all I see in the real world are women owning men, so Jack you are wrong and radical to say that.
That's why you will take the wrong conclusion. I have a rare gift of seeing the world like it's math and I shut my negative emotions easily. Of course I also have negative emotions if you put some stats that make Federer look bed, but I just ignore them and agree that using some stats Federer has holes in his legacy. It's not just what Djokodal fans say, it's also what they don't say.
Ok,but if you are you are closeted, you post too little praise an awe about Nole's game in public here for me to think of you as a real fan. True fan goes out there and praises Nole's attributes and analyses them in details and praises how his opponents exploited his weakness and go into details what Nole could change or not and learn and talk about history of the sport and how Nole is seen in context and so on.
If you are right, why don't I see most Djokodal fans here never talking about this, it's mostly just about stats and nothing else. The irony is that even most Fed fans do this for Nole, sure we talk about stats too, but we talk alot about tons of other things and we joke and criticize our hero a lot too.
It's not what Djokodal fans post, it's what I don't see posted. Plus they could have a little more knowledge about their own guy, it seems they know more about Federer than they do about Djokovic.
When someone young beats Fed we posts tons of threads, Dimitrov goat, I never see that from Djokovic fans when someone beats him. Of course there are some exceptions, not all of fans are like that, but the trends are there.
Of course I believe my remarks are rational. All radicals think their remarks are rational, isn't that the point of being a radical? All radicals also deny that they are radicals, so I will have to disagree with you here, it's you who are a radical, I'm completely rational here. And now you as a true radical you will of course deny and call me a radical, which is what you did. I rest my case. I'm not here to convince you, I know radicals can't be convince, but it's about others who see my posts to see what you are and we also are having fun.My previous comment was not about any specific fan groups, so your post about supporter groups, what you think of them and how you assess them is unwelcome and utterly irrelevant.
My comment was about you and your behaviour. I understand that you think your remarks are rational, but I will have to disagree. My belief is that you have been radicalised by your time posting and reading here and the majority of your posts here are coloured by that fervour.
Thanks for proving my point, normal happy fan wouldn't feel the need to justify his criticism he would just laugh and joke and even admit it and be positive and funny and have fun.Yeah....sorry, but your opinion doesn't define what a real fan is for everyone else, certainly not for me. I don't praise Nole's game? Really? You seriously have not been reading my posts over the years, the difference is, I don't need to crap on other players to prop up Djokovic. I have done plenty of pre match analysis - AO 2019 final, USO 2018 final, Wimbledon 2018 semi and final just in the past year. Praising his game. And for when he lost? Go look at RG 2013 semi with Nadal, or when Federer beat him in Shanghai in 2014, or Cincy 2015 just off of the top of my head, for how his opponent exploited his game and was simply better than him. So please stop with this Us and Them mentality, everyone is different.
Thanks for proving my point, normal happy fan wouldn't feel the need to justify his criticism he would just laugh and joke and even admit it and be positive and funny and have fun.
When people say that I'm not happy, I just say, true and things we all get worse pal, be ready. Djokodal fans are way too defensive. Fed fans are defensive as a parody on purpose, Djokodal fans actually are like that.
Why shoot the messenger, the solution is to agree with me and be happy with me and let's enjoy life.
Not really, I'm playing the label game as a parody to show you guys how absurd it is to label groups like that. That's the problem, you don't think of people as individuals you think in terms of groups, you shoehorned yourself, I wasn't doing it, you right away thought I was talking about you when I said Djoko fans and started to defend yourself.The only point you have proven is you like to shoehorn people. Fed Fans. Djokodal Fans.
So, I am not allow to defend myself from your finger pointing? Yeah, not happening. I am not just going to laugh and joke it off, if I feel the intent from the finger pointer is not to laugh and joke.
Not really, I'm playing the label game as a parody to show you guys how absurd it is to label groups like that. That's the problem, you don't think of people as individuals you think in terms of groups, you shoehorned yourself, I wasn't doing it, you right away thought I was talking about you when I said Djoko fans and started to defend yourself.
That's why you guys will never be happy until you start treating people as individuals and not as groups, that was my point. You don't seem happy and trust me it's not us Fed fans who are responsible for that, that is on your own.
The good news is that I like Isner so whoever wins it's a win-win. See, but Djokodal fans are the opposite. If Isner beat their guy they would say oh those serve bots suck. Instead of being happy for some other guy beating their hero.