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Would you say Zverev's loss was a classic choke, or do you think he brought something new to the table?
He was. But it was still a choke.He earned my respect - he was classy throughout the match, winning or losing, and was a class act in defeat.
Zverev's redemption arc reminds me of Med's from last USO. History repeating itself...He earned my respect - he was classy throughout the match, winning or losing, and was a class act in defeat.
No argument, I'm just saying Zverev behaved maturely throughout the final and was respectful to all. Obviously he choked, but so did Thiem. It was a double chokefest.Choke ... period !!!
Watching Zvev stare into space, completely despondent, right after the loss just made me think this will be a huge learning moment for him. I think this match will make him tougher, I think the days of his early round disappointments are over. He’s not going to suddenly dominate the elite guys but hopefully he was replaying the blown opportunities and learning to freaking GO for it next timeNo argument, I'm just saying Zverev behaved maturely throughout the final and was respectful to all. Obviously he choked, but so did Thiem. It was a double chokefest.
Zev did choke by not serving it out in the fifth, especially considering Thiem’s body breaking down.
But Zverev did go for it. In the second set, there was a point where he was 17/21 at net. It was Thiem who played tentatively and was terrified the first 90 minutes.He’s not going to suddenly dominate the elite guys but hopefully he was replaying the blown opportunities and learning to freaking GO for it next time
Your post is Non-trolly, compassionate, dignified, hope-filled, humane, rational and lacking in snotty, condescending, mocking, know-it-all emptinessHe earned my respect - he was classy throughout the match, winning or losing, and was a class act in defeat.
No argument, I'm just saying Zverev behaved maturely throughout the final and was respectful to all. Obviously he choked, but so did Thiem. It was a double chokefest.
No, I think Thiem just is fitter and more effitient. Zverev has long legs, so he needs more energy. Plus Thiem is more prepared. You can't play grinding style with those long legs, it's not very smart. So, Zverev just ran out of gas. But he is younger, I think he will improve in that department.Would you say Zverev's loss was a classic choke, or do you think he brought something new to the table?
And no ugly useless masks to boot!He earned my respect - he was classy throughout the match, winning or losing, and was a class act in defeat.
I saw it a bit differenty, Thiem got used to the style and raised his level, Zverev also got tired.Yes, it was a choke, no doubt about it. Worse from Thiem than Zverev though, it was his first final after all. Zverev has really endeared himself to me, I was rooting for him to pull it off. Played some good tennis in the first two sets. I hope Ferrer played a role in his performance this slam and that they continue to work together.
I saw it a bit differenty, Thiem got used to the style and raised his level, Zverev also got tired.
That's why Zverev was tired he neither drank nor sat down, that's the point. But anyway, I love Thiem, he is one hander, he was always a huge favourite since he regulary makes it deep at majors, so in the end I think it was deserved.I definitely agree Thiem could implement more of his game from the third set on, but I don't think Zverev got tired at all. He neither sat down nor drank anything in the final TB. The pressure of being the front runner got to him. And that TB should have been his, Thiem was literally hobbling around the court. But it is what it is, can't be too mad since Thiem's a decent guy.
Maybe you are correct, shows that Thiem has more experience in big matches.I rarely throw around the word choking but what Zverev did yesterday with his serve was a sign of a guy mentally scared. So Thiem is cramping, and Zverev decides to go for 80 mph 1st serves? He was all over the place with that serve. It became a weakness for him in the end, and all of it attributes to mental demons. He didn't play to win, he played not to lose. Thiem, although how crap he was, never abandoned his game plan.
I could understand the cramping more in a 5-hour match. It's not really excusable for two very young guys in a 4-hour match.
I AGREE, HE ALMOST HAD ME IN TEARS WHILE HE WAS SPEAKING AFTER HIS DEFEAT. THIEM THOUGH MADE SOME INCREDIBLE SHOTS TOWARDS THE END OF THE MATCH, GOOD FOR HIM!He earned my respect - he was classy throughout the match, winning or losing, and was a class act in defeat.
Perhaps they are not in their best shape, having not played much competitive tennis for several months? Give the guys a break, as the played a lot of tennis the past few weeks.I could understand the cramping more in a 5-hour match. It's not really excusable for two very young guys in a 4-hour match.
Definitely a complete loss of self-confidence during the tie break. A guy with a huge serve made two or three double faults when it matters the most, his serve speed was a joke (WTA level), forehands looked like he was warming-up etc... Will be better next time.
But shouldn't a break make them more fresh and rested? That's why AO quality is always the highest, because everybody is fresh. Does anybody dispute that AO produced the highest level of tennis in the past years?Perhaps they are not in their best shape, having not played much competitive tennis for several months? Give the guys a break, as the played a lot of tennis the past few weeks.