Slams + YECs

Deleted member 748597 · Sep 18, 2020

Federer 26

Djokovic 22

Nadal 19

Lleytonstation · Sep 18, 2020

Fed wins them all. Duh.

USO · Sep 18, 2020

YEC are nowhere near the slams in importance they are closer to masters 1000

Deleted member 748597 · Sep 18, 2020

Lleytonstation said:
Fed wins them all. Duh.

Fed is still undoubtedly the greatest. We have to accept that.

Deleted member 748597 · Sep 18, 2020

USO said:
YEC are nowhere near the slams in importance they are closer to masters 1000

YEC is a very important tournament imo.

merlinpinpin · Sep 18, 2020

USO said:
YEC are nowhere near the slams in importance they are closer to masters 1000

Actually, they're slam-bang in the middle. Nowhere near the slams? Absolutely right. Just like the M1000's are nowhere near the YEC (it's just a push by the ATP to have their own big tournaments, when in truth, the M1000's are just the *regular* tournaments of the Tour).

Deleted member 748597 · Sep 18, 2020

Federer's numbers are just crazy when you look at his entire career.

But he will fall. He will fall.

BeatlesFan · Sep 18, 2020

USO said:
YEC are nowhere near the slams in importance they are closer to masters 1000

Actually this is partially incorrect. Obviously YEC's are not close to slams in importance, but an undefeated winner gets 1500 points, which is 500 points more (obviously) than a Masters 1000 win. The YEC is clearly the next most important trophy in tennis after the slams. The points awarded to it prove that eloquently.

Lleytonstation · Sep 18, 2020

Nole Slam said:
Federer's numbers are just crazy when you look at his entire career.

But he will fall. He will fall.

We all know what happens next...

Deleted member 748597 · Sep 18, 2020

Lleytonstation said:
We all know what happens next...

Don't worry. I shall always remember how great your man was. Having fewer Slams than Djokovic is not that bad.

Lleytonstation · Sep 18, 2020

Nole Slam said:
Don't worry. I shall always remember how great your man was. Having fewer Slams than Djokovic is not that bad.

33>17

Deleted member 748597 · Sep 18, 2020

Lleytonstation said:
33>17

2>1

Now figure out what that means.

USO · Sep 18, 2020

BeatlesFan said:
Actually this is partially incorrect. Obviously YEC's are not close to slams in importance, but an undefeated winner gets 1500 points, which is 500 points more (obviously) than a Masters 1000 win. The YEC is clearly the next most important trophy in tennis after the slams. The points awarded to it prove that eloquently.

Under that logic 1 slam is equal to 2 Masters 1000 or 2 slams are equal to 3 YEC which is all completely false.

Lleytonstation · Sep 18, 2020

USO said:
Under that logic 1 slam is equal to 2 Masters 1000 or 2 slams are equal to 3 YEC which is all completely false.

So what is the comparison? Because I am sure any of the big 3 would trade 10 masters for one slam. Maybe more.

USO · Sep 18, 2020

Lleytonstation said:
So what is the comparison? Because I am sure any of the big 3 would trade 10 masters for one slam. Maybe more.

The logic is that you can’t put YEC and Masters 1000 along with the slams.

Lleytonstation · Sep 18, 2020

Nole Slam said:
2>1

Now figure out what that means.

Deleted member 748597 · Sep 18, 2020

USO said:
The logic is that you can’t put YEC and Masters 1000 along with the slams.

I only put YEC with Slams. Obviously Slams are more important. I just think that this is better than that Big Titles count.

Lleytonstation · Sep 18, 2020

USO said:
The logic is that you can’t put YEC and Masters 1000 along with the slams.

Agree, which is why big titles charts are lame and meaningless.

USO · Sep 18, 2020

Zverev has 1 YEC and 3 Masters 1000 (for a total of 4,500 points) and he would trade them all for 1 slam (2,000 points).

Deleted member 748597 · Sep 18, 2020

Lleytonstation said:

Two Djokovic fans are Spencer followers. Only one Federer fan is a Spencer follower.

2>1

So be it.

USO · Sep 18, 2020

I would also say that someone with 3 or 4 YEC would trade them to be a slam champion.

Lleytonstation · Sep 18, 2020

Nole Slam said:
I only put YEC with Slams. Obviously Slams are more important. I just think that this is better than that Big Titles count.

I think gold plus slams is more important.... 21>17

Deleted member 748597 · Sep 18, 2020

USO said:
I would also say that someone with 3 or 4 YEC would trade them to be a slam champion.

Why are you ruining my beautiful thread?

Lleytonstation · Sep 18, 2020

Nole Slam said:
Two Djokovic fans are Spencer followers. Only one Federer fan is a Spencer follower.

2>1

So be it.

@Phoenix1983 is a believer now.

USO · Sep 18, 2020

I would also say that Nadal wouldn’t trade his Olympics gold medal with a YEC.

Deleted member 748597 · Sep 18, 2020

Lleytonstation said:
@Phoenix1983 is a believer now.

He is. But he voted for Emily in that Fedpo's thread. I shall never forget that.

Deleted member 748597 · Sep 18, 2020

Lleytonstation said:
I think gold plus slams is more important.... 21>17

It occurs once every 4 years, so no.

mika1979 · Sep 18, 2020

Only metric that matters is career prize money

merlinpinpin · Sep 18, 2020

Nole Slam said:
It occurs once every 4 years, so no.

Not as important as a blue clay tournament that happens once in a lifetime, obviously.

Lleytonstation · Sep 18, 2020

mika1979 said:
Only metric that matters is career prize money

Must account for inflation. Fed wins.

Third Serve · Sep 18, 2020

USO said:
YEC are nowhere near the slams in importance they are closer to masters 1000

If you go undefeated, it’s right in the middle. If you lose a match, it’s closer to a Masters (but not quite). If you lose two and still win (which is possible I think but nobody has ever done it) it should be worth about a Masters or a bit lower.

Deleted member 748597 · Sep 18, 2020

Some YECs are greater than US Open 2017.

Sephiroth · Sep 18, 2020

YEC = meme trophy to have some fun and hit the ball around for giggles after a gruelling tennis season

Deleted member 748597 · Sep 18, 2020

Ned fans finally came to ruin my thread.

USO · Sep 18, 2020

Nole Slam said:
Some YECs are greater than US Open 2017.

Beating Del Potro in a USO semi is huge. Del Potro had beaten Federer in the QF and also has several big wins over the Big 3. Anderson meanwhile beat Federer at Wimbledon. There's no such thing as an easy slam.

Poisoned Slice · Sep 18, 2020

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Lleytonstation · Sep 18, 2020

USO said:
Beating Del Potro in a USO semi is huge. Del Potro had beaten Federer in the QF and also has several big wins over the Big 3. Anderson meanwhile beat Federer at Wimbledon. There's no such thing as an easy slam.

If that is the case, then there is no such thing as an easy YEC.

USO · Sep 18, 2020

Lleytonstation said:
If that is the case, then there is no such thing as an easy YEC.

And there's no such thing as an easy Masters 1000. The point is, slams can't be compared with anything. If 2 players have an equal amount of slam titles, then we can bring up WTF, Olympics, Masters 1000, etc.

Lleytonstation · Sep 18, 2020

Poisoned Slice said:

Deleted member 748597 · Sep 18, 2020

USO said:
And there's no such thing as an easy Masters 1000. The point is, slams can't be compared with anything. If 2 players have an equal amount of slam titles, then we can bring up WTF, Olympics, Masters 1000, etc.

I don't agree with that. If the difference is only 1 or 2 Slams, we should bring the YEC, YE #1, weeks at #1, etc.

DSH · Sep 18, 2020

Nole Slam said:
Some YECs are greater than US Open 2017.

And the US Open 2018, too!

Lleytonstation · Sep 18, 2020

Nole Slam said:
I don't agree with that. If the difference is only 1 or 2 Slams, we should bring the YEC, YE #1, weeks at #1, etc.

Feds masters where he had to win final of 5 sets should count more.

King No1e · Sep 18, 2020

BeatlesFan said:
Actually this is partially incorrect. Obviously YEC's are not close to slams in importance, but an undefeated winner gets 1500 points, which is 500 points more (obviously) than a Masters 1000 win. The YEC is clearly the next most important trophy in tennis after the slams. The points awarded to it prove that eloquently.

By that logic, Gstaad and St. Petersburg are more prestigious than the Olympics.
Side note: 40-15

Sephiroth · Sep 18, 2020

If slams are equal then it goes like this.

Olympic Gold > Masters (especially the clay ones) > Davis Cups > Barcelona Open > YE #1 etc

Poisoned Slice · Sep 18, 2020

Lleytonstation said:

Lleytonstation · Sep 18, 2020

Sephiroth said:
~~Olympic Gold~~ > ~~Masters~~ ~~(especially the clay ones)~~ > ~~Davis Cups~~ > ~~Barcelona Open~~ > ~~YE #1~~ etc

FTFY.

Deleted member 748597 · Sep 18, 2020

Sephiroth said:
If slams are equal then it goes like this.

Olympic Gold > Masters (especially the clay ones) > Davis Cups > Barcelona Open > YE #1 etc

Sephiroth · Sep 18, 2020

Lleytonstation said:
FTFY.

They're the most prestigious accomplishments.

Lleytonstation · Sep 18, 2020

Sephiroth said:
They're the most prestigious accomplishments.

DC is a joke. A team event. Literally is meaningless for singles.

Clay masters? haha.

Barcelona Open... Laver Cup is a bigger deal.

Weeks at #1 > YE#1

Deleted member 748597 · Sep 18, 2020

Nole Slam said:
I don't agree with that. If the difference is only 1 or 2 Slams, we should bring the YEC, YE #1, weeks at #1, etc.

This is why #21 is not enough for Nadal to surpass Federer imo.

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