Better player at 34 years old, Djokovic or Federer?
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The competition makes this tricky.
Nah. It's Djokovic.
Nah. It's Djokovic.
Why is this even a question?
Nadal_King
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Djokovic of today vs Federer of 2015 would be a fun matchup maybe Federer favourite at Wimbledon or Us open as well
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
We’re essentially comparing 2015 Fed to 2021 Djokovic, really. As it stands, it’s not close at all. Check out the big tournaments:
AO: Novak, Fed lost to Seppi.
IW: 2021 IW delayed so no verdict yet. Fed did play well at IW 2015 so Novak would need to put in a good performance.
Miami: pointless comparison since both of them skipped it
Monte-Carlo: Fed by a hair but they were both bad
Madrid: I guess Fed wins by default considering he played it while Djokovic skipped it but there’s not much in it considering he lost in the opening round
Rome: Fed was better pre-final, Novak was better in the final.
French Open: Novak clearly better, Fed was uninspiring throughout
See, based on the Slams so far, it’s clearly Djokovic. I wanna see how Djokovic holds up, though, because Fed massively improved in the second half of the season.
If the comparison is at 33, Fed probably wins.
AO: Novak, Fed lost to Seppi.
IW: 2021 IW delayed so no verdict yet. Fed did play well at IW 2015 so Novak would need to put in a good performance.
Miami: pointless comparison since both of them skipped it
Monte-Carlo: Fed by a hair but they were both bad
Madrid: I guess Fed wins by default considering he played it while Djokovic skipped it but there’s not much in it considering he lost in the opening round
Rome: Fed was better pre-final, Novak was better in the final.
French Open: Novak clearly better, Fed was uninspiring throughout
See, based on the Slams so far, it’s clearly Djokovic. I wanna see how Djokovic holds up, though, because Fed massively improved in the second half of the season.
If the comparison is at 33, Fed probably wins.
Nadal_Django
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Yeah pretty much spot on...Excellent post.
There is the argument flowing that because the competition is so weak right now Djokovic level isn't relevant to win slams. I'm now giving a reason for fellow posters to measure Nole level by using another ATG to compare.
Federer was done at 29, aside from '17 he's never been the best in the world since then. Djoks currently holds 3 slams + should be 4
vex
Legend
2015 Fed had an amazing Summer/Fall like you said. Djokovic will have to play at a high level
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
Hey, what’s this? Hypothetical Fed losing a poll?
vex
Legend
Di
did u watch 2015? Fed was legit that year
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
Who cares what some think. Djok is THE GOAT and that's EOD. Let them weep.
The Blond Blur
G.O.A.T.
Tough to say because at age 33-35 Ol’ Rog was going up against Prime/Peakovic. I’m sure Prime/Peakerer would make Oldovic look just as helpless.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Federer
The Guru
Legend
How so? Djoko wins RG and AO by a substantial margin. UO is the DQ and Fed lost to Cilic in straights and went 5 with La Monf so not exactly great. Djokovic didn't get his chance at W so unfair to assume 14 W Fed automatically better. Djokovic was also damn good outside the slams winning ATP Cup, Dubai, Cinci, and Rome.
Spencer Gore
Legend
Okay. What's the punchline?
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
It's a tough comparison but I think Fed ultimately impressed me more throughout the year. Djokovic wasn't impressive at all to me after the tour resumed (he didn't play particularly well at Cincy and the Rome draw made him look way better than he was; Fed wasn't perfect in Cincy 2014 but I felt he was better) and it felt like he was sleepwalking to whatever big tournament he came by (save for the freak DQ and Nadal on clay). Before the lockdowns, though, Djokovic looked pretty good.
Most of the tournaments where Fed played really well were the ones that Novak missed out on so all I'm going on is what I saw of both players in the tournaments they did play.
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
Djokovic easy
Yeah, i think it could be very interesting. I was not in this forum at the time but i think Fed was the favorite by posters of this forum in the 2015 finals.
Strale
Semi-Pro
Maybe on grass but hardly anywhere else
CCPass
Semi-Pro
Federer fans couldn’t imagine Djokovic or Nadal winning slams after turning 30 either, but we all know how that turns out.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
The one with unlimited energy after "shirt changes" 
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
I don't understand how that's related though. Some people were wrong about something and that means that others will be wrong about something else? That's literally only true in the very vaguest way. This is a totally different question.
CCPass
Semi-Pro
It means Fed fans’ imagination is overrated. That’s all.
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
I guess, but that's not really an answer.
Fed at Djoker's current age was better than Djok is now, but he literally had both of them at ages 27/28 while Djok has no real threats outside of crippled Fred and Rafa. So he wasn't as successful and the fact that he did win more Slams is a miracle.
CCPass
Semi-Pro
It’s spot on, considering the point being that the things you can or can’t imagine do not make a convincing argument.
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
Well, anyone who couldn't imagine Djok/Dal winning in their 30s was either a total idiot or just wishful thinking.
Biotic
Hall of Fame
Silverbullet96
Hall of Fame
Federer unnecessarily nerfed himself by switching to half-volley-every-groundstroke playing style after 30, to preserve 'longevity'. If he had known that 34 year old Nadal & Djokovic would still be easily grinding their way to Grand Slams & #1 ranking as they were doing at 24, we would have seen some better tennis by Federer.
But as reality stands, the answer is Djokovic...
But as reality stands, the answer is Djokovic...
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Federer.
Appearance wise Djoker certainly looks younger than Fed at the same age. Fed probably had too much Barilla.
Phoenix1983
G.O.A.T.
Not until 21 slams he isn't.
Djokovic ofc. Is that even a question?
But i don't see Djokovic at 36 winning 2 slams, and having such a great season, as well as playing at that level at what Federer was playing at 2017. It was a fresh air winter.
As i said it before i think this and the next year will be the last one Nadal and Djokovic have real chances at Slams.
But i don't see Djokovic at 36 winning 2 slams, and having such a great season, as well as playing at that level at what Federer was playing at 2017. It was a fresh air winter.
As i said it before i think this and the next year will be the last one Nadal and Djokovic have real chances at Slams.
ACE of Hearts
Bionic Poster
I hate this argument. Federer has had his chances against Novak but mentally he fizzle out.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
terribleIVAN
Hall of Fame
34 year Fed loses to 2021 Rafa at RG.
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
Reported.
StannisTheMannis
Hall of Fame
Novak is the GOAT by far at this age. He is Kipchoge like in his ability at this age.
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
This poll probably should have had an option to change votes because Novak’s season isn’t over yet.
Read the press. No one cares about you
and your opinion.
Karma Tennis
Legend
Djokovic.
But Ken Rosewall was better than any of them at that age.
But Ken Rosewall was better than any of them at that age.
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