The crazy part is that the 2018 version had a even lower twistweight…12.98!
2021 Yonex VCore 95
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We share similar sentiments. Did you like it on top spin backhands?
SumYungGai
Semi-Pro
So so. It felt good but I couldn't dial the backhand in very well over the 40mins I hit. It could be because I'm used to a heavier SW. I think making the VC closer in spec to the other frames will help and I'll be able to put it to a real good test. My favorite thing about it so far is serving, but that could also be due to it being 16x20 instead of what I'm used to, 18x20. It was welcomed relief to get some more pop on kicks.
iceman_dl6
Professional
How does it compare to the old 2016/2017 SV95?
CosmosMpower
Hall of Fame
Wayyyyy less stiff
iceman_dl6
Professional
Awesome, but does that mean it is less powerful than the SV95? I love the powerful response of the old SV95!
Ok went for a 2nd hit tonight, more thoughts.
-Still feels a bit unstable with 4g of lead at 3 & 9, going to add 2g more to 3 & 9 tomorrow and see how it hits
-Slight discomfort still on off-center hits, I think because of the low twistweight though and not so much the frame's stiffness, in stock form it was really uncomfortable. Over a 2 hour session it adds up
-1st serve was great, no complaints, had no trouble hitting the back fence and hitting 1-2 aces per game
-2nd serve im struggling a bit with consistency, It's probably me though tbh, but i found I was struggling with it more than normal. Once again I think a bit higher twistweight should help with the predictability
-Top spin backhands are amazing, and quite a standout with this frame. It's really fun to play with because people when they see you have a one-hander automatically target it so this kinda throws people off by being able to drive backhands with effectiveness. I hit about 8 topspin backhand winners during my practice set against my hitting partner
-backhand slice is average, doesn't really stand out. I like the Ezone 98+ more on the slice because of the thinner beam and denser pattern in the middle. But the Ezone 98+ also has a higher twistweight
-Good topspin on forehands, if there's one thing low twistweight does, it gives good RPM on forehands, unfortunately at the expense of everything else
-Volleys are average, nothing stands out
Really fun frame to play with. Hoping I can get the specs tuned right.
Right now im at 343g, 8 pts HL.
Not sure what the SW is.
-Still feels a bit unstable with 4g of lead at 3 & 9, going to add 2g more to 3 & 9 tomorrow and see how it hits
-Slight discomfort still on off-center hits, I think because of the low twistweight though and not so much the frame's stiffness, in stock form it was really uncomfortable. Over a 2 hour session it adds up
-1st serve was great, no complaints, had no trouble hitting the back fence and hitting 1-2 aces per game
-2nd serve im struggling a bit with consistency, It's probably me though tbh, but i found I was struggling with it more than normal. Once again I think a bit higher twistweight should help with the predictability
-Top spin backhands are amazing, and quite a standout with this frame. It's really fun to play with because people when they see you have a one-hander automatically target it so this kinda throws people off by being able to drive backhands with effectiveness. I hit about 8 topspin backhand winners during my practice set against my hitting partner
-backhand slice is average, doesn't really stand out. I like the Ezone 98+ more on the slice because of the thinner beam and denser pattern in the middle. But the Ezone 98+ also has a higher twistweight
-Good topspin on forehands, if there's one thing low twistweight does, it gives good RPM on forehands, unfortunately at the expense of everything else
-Volleys are average, nothing stands out
Really fun frame to play with. Hoping I can get the specs tuned right.
Right now im at 343g, 8 pts HL.
Not sure what the SW is.
Power Player
Bionic Poster
Played tonight and switched through the vc95 and my prokennex frames. The pk q+5x has a higher sw and is more stable. Not by a ton but i noticed on serve with the pk, my timing was perfect. On the vcore i defintitely come through the ball faster and a bit early. Im thinking i may add 3 grams total at 3 and 9 and see how that plays.
I dont see the need to change this frame much from stock form though, at least for my game.
I dont see the need to change this frame much from stock form though, at least for my game.
racquetreligion
Hall of Fame
I find v1 better than v2 and v3 for extra pop without needing to weigh it up
but as soon as you weigh up any of these model they all have the same issue
which is if you are not in 85-100% in the zone, forced errors become the norm.
Just like using a powerful whip these things are very sensitive and honestly feel
Shapo would win more with a 16 x 19 pattern from PS95, 6.1 95 or even Prince Tex95 v1.
This is my only qualm vs many other racquets which all seem to produce more revs
to allow balls to dip with a sharp trajectory or able to just dip in on deep drives.
I would even prefer an 16 x 18 pattern as the pop on these frames is devastating.
The SV95 sweet spot is like trying to reel in a Mad Bull but its fun while it lasts.
Back now using Prince Text 95 v1 w/ alu power which I find a good compromise
for my 1 handed bh and full Western FH with custom rounded grip 320s/w.
For dble handed BHs the bigger headed Vcores and Ezones are total beasts similar
to the Technifibre offerings of recent years but us 1handed BH players have less choice.
but as soon as you weigh up any of these model they all have the same issue
which is if you are not in 85-100% in the zone, forced errors become the norm.
Just like using a powerful whip these things are very sensitive and honestly feel
Shapo would win more with a 16 x 19 pattern from PS95, 6.1 95 or even Prince Tex95 v1.
This is my only qualm vs many other racquets which all seem to produce more revs
to allow balls to dip with a sharp trajectory or able to just dip in on deep drives.
I would even prefer an 16 x 18 pattern as the pop on these frames is devastating.
The SV95 sweet spot is like trying to reel in a Mad Bull but its fun while it lasts.
Back now using Prince Text 95 v1 w/ alu power which I find a good compromise
for my 1 handed bh and full Western FH with custom rounded grip 320s/w.
For dble handed BHs the bigger headed Vcores and Ezones are total beasts similar
to the Technifibre offerings of recent years but us 1handed BH players have less choice.
galapagos
Hall of Fame
Looks like you are adding lead to that speed pro hm?
Vicious49
Legend
Ive had the VC95 for a few weeks now but after last nights session it just didnt have the stability and plow through of my UTs.
I decided to add lead to my VC95s today and I definitely prefer it over keeping it stock, It just felt more stable and solid on all my shots. I wasnt playing any heavy hitters thiugh so the real test will come later in the week.
The first one, I added 2g each at 3, 9 and 12 and didnt counterweight it at all. With dampener and OG its 338g and 6.5 pts HL.
The other one I only added 2 g each at just above 3 and 9 and added 1 g under the trap door. This one was 337g and 7.5pts HL.
Between the 2 I preferred the 1st one. Ill probably add 2g to the grip to bring it to 340g and 7pts HL.
I decided to add lead to my VC95s today and I definitely prefer it over keeping it stock, It just felt more stable and solid on all my shots. I wasnt playing any heavy hitters thiugh so the real test will come later in the week.
The first one, I added 2g each at 3, 9 and 12 and didnt counterweight it at all. With dampener and OG its 338g and 6.5 pts HL.
The other one I only added 2 g each at just above 3 and 9 and added 1 g under the trap door. This one was 337g and 7.5pts HL.
Between the 2 I preferred the 1st one. Ill probably add 2g to the grip to bring it to 340g and 7pts HL.
SumYungGai
Semi-Pro
Yes I have the black Speed Pro and it wasn't very stable stock, but I love it now. I've got lead at 3/9/12 (and silicone in the handle) and it's great. Good plow and some power when needed. I've added lead on the VC at 3/9 now just to start out, and I'll probably fool around with how much and where the lead is soon. I like the feel of the VC95 so I'm going to give it a real chance.
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I do think you want to get this racket to mid 320s (SW) if you can.. mine is 319sw with lynx tour 1.25mm. 3 gr total at 3&9 should give me +6sw pts. I think i will give that a shot.
Crimsonchen
Rookie
Agree with you, both the 2018 and 2021 95s need some weight on the head. Both models felt pretty similar to me but both needed the weight added for stability and plow through. Once I put on lead at the 3,9 and 12, I felt comfortable hitting my shots and felt that it had the right amount of power
Agreed. I tested a higher sw set-up today (355g @ 10 pts HL vs 341g @ 10 pts HL) - it added some nice pop on serve and was very playable, but just didn't feel necessary overall. The stability of the hoop in stock form is ridiculous.
racquetreligion
Hall of Fame
LOL try and use any Vcore 95 for defense vs a bit hitter
you basically rush every point to outhit him before he does you
you basically rush every point to outhit him before he does you
Power Player
Bionic Poster
I don't know, I play with a really good higher level counterpuncher who can redirect rockets into the corners with his VC95 quite well.
3rd day of hitting
I added 2 more grams at 3 & 9 for a total of 6g at 3 & 9. Torsional stability feels perfect now, and seemed to solve most of the issues I had with this frame regarding the comfort, backhand slice and 2nd serve. I noticed that this frame is really good for a nice blend of offense & defense. I know some people feel like with 18x20 it feels like all you can do is hit flat shots, and with 16x19 you feel like you can only hit spin shots, this frame lets you flatten out shots or also use heavy spin. I think Yonex has figured out how to make perfect string bed density for their frames. One handed backhand is a dream. I know I keep saying that, but it really is. I'm going to play a serious match tomorrow so we'll see how it holds up!
I added 2 more grams at 3 & 9 for a total of 6g at 3 & 9. Torsional stability feels perfect now, and seemed to solve most of the issues I had with this frame regarding the comfort, backhand slice and 2nd serve. I noticed that this frame is really good for a nice blend of offense & defense. I know some people feel like with 18x20 it feels like all you can do is hit flat shots, and with 16x19 you feel like you can only hit spin shots, this frame lets you flatten out shots or also use heavy spin. I think Yonex has figured out how to make perfect string bed density for their frames. One handed backhand is a dream. I know I keep saying that, but it really is. I'm going to play a serious match tomorrow so we'll see how it holds up!
My Vcore 95 is 8pts HL strung with 10g of lead on the hoop and overgrip so like I said these rackets sometimes come very HL. Leather grip would be overkill
16x20 pattern.. trying to give a bit of both.. flat and top spin.. you tend to get not a high kicking but penetrating thru the court spin which i love
kipek
New User
I love the VCore 95s. I play with with 2018 version with 2grams at 3 and 9 plus a leather grip. Perfect. Offence, servers, flat hits, spin.. my only complaint was if I got tired, or legs started to get heavy.. I struggled.
Then recently tried a VCore Pro 97 310. (emerald green version which is about to be replaced) I noticed they are same weight and balance. However 16x19. I loved it! A bit more forgiving not quite as point and shoot as the VC95 but a solid overall package. Anyone had a similar experience with VCP’s?
I ended up with 1.5grams at 3 and 9 plus leather grip on the VCP 97.
Then recently tried a VCore Pro 97 310. (emerald green version which is about to be replaced) I noticed they are same weight and balance. However 16x19. I loved it! A bit more forgiving not quite as point and shoot as the VC95 but a solid overall package. Anyone had a similar experience with VCP’s?
I ended up with 1.5grams at 3 and 9 plus leather grip on the VCP 97.
iceman_dl6
Professional
If someone here could comment about the power level of the 2021 version vs the old SV95 it would help a lot!
I haven't played with the SV95, however based on the specs of the SV95, it is slightly stiffer (65 vs 64 RA), with a higher swingweight in stock form. Therefore one could make the conclusion it is a slightly more powerful racket, but not by much. Add a few grams of lead to the Vcore 95 and you should be good.
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
I think Tennisnerd did a comparison video of the SV95 and the newer VC95s. Look it up on YouTube. Might provide some of the answers for you.
4th day of hitting
Finally put this frame to the test...played one of my practice partners that normally beats me, he is one UTR point higher than me. I beat him 7-5, 6-2. I choked a bit being up 4-1 in the first set. This guy is 6'2 and plays very aggressively, I was able to keep him pushed back due to the racket's spin friendliness and power. I never felt like I was getting overpowered, but I could also take advantage of short balls whenever he gave me one. I like the power level of this racket a lot, it's not so powerful that you feel like you have to hold back on offense but it's also not so underpowered that you can't play defense. My previous racket was the head mircogel radical MP, which was a 18x20 frame, 62 RA was very underpowered, compared to this frame, even with 340 SW. I hit 5 aces and bunch of forehand winners. I actually think this racket is pretty good on the forehand. When I was just hitting around I couldn't tell if it was good on forehands or not, but after playing a match I was doing some serious damage with my forehand. One hand backhand also caught him off guard a few times when he tried to chip and charge to my backhand.
So yeah I dunno I think it's time to make the official switch? But I'm scared it's just a honeymoon phase.
Also the comfort of this frame is excellent once you get the twistweight up.
Finally put this frame to the test...played one of my practice partners that normally beats me, he is one UTR point higher than me. I beat him 7-5, 6-2. I choked a bit being up 4-1 in the first set. This guy is 6'2 and plays very aggressively, I was able to keep him pushed back due to the racket's spin friendliness and power. I never felt like I was getting overpowered, but I could also take advantage of short balls whenever he gave me one. I like the power level of this racket a lot, it's not so powerful that you feel like you have to hold back on offense but it's also not so underpowered that you can't play defense. My previous racket was the head mircogel radical MP, which was a 18x20 frame, 62 RA was very underpowered, compared to this frame, even with 340 SW. I hit 5 aces and bunch of forehand winners. I actually think this racket is pretty good on the forehand. When I was just hitting around I couldn't tell if it was good on forehands or not, but after playing a match I was doing some serious damage with my forehand. One hand backhand also caught him off guard a few times when he tried to chip and charge to my backhand.
So yeah I dunno I think it's time to make the official switch? But I'm scared it's just a honeymoon phase.
Also the comfort of this frame is excellent once you get the twistweight up.
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I agree with this 100%.
SumYungGai
Semi-Pro
What tension are you going with? I strung RPM at 47 lbs and don't feel like I have good control of it.
I like high tensions because of my eastern forehand grip.
Luxilon Gut 1.30 / Max Power 1.25 64 lbs both mains & crosses.
Are you stringing on a constant pull or lockout? I've been messing around with tension on mine with a constant pull and have settled around 50-52. It feels great once it breaks in a little bit after half an hour or so.
Recoveringhobo
Rookie
I played with the SV95, skipped the 2018 VCORE, and have now switched to the 2021 version. I get more power power and spin from the 2021 than the SV95. While the SV95 does provide more feedback sometimes it feels harsh outside the sweet spot - no such problem with the 2021. That said I probably prefer the SV95 overall because I felt more in control of my shots.
SumYungGai
Semi-Pro
Constant pull. I'll give a higher tension a shot.
Let me know how it goes! I haven't tried RPM on it, but am really enjoying HGS 17g atm.
The SV95 & 2018 Vcore 95 have a twistweight of 12.9
The 2021 Vcore 95 has a twistweight of 13.58
smalahove
Hall of Fame
"A bit more forgiving not quite as point and shoot as the VC95 but a solid overall package."
You nailed it
Power Player
Bionic Poster
Other thing I am realizing about this 95 is that you can make it a little heavier than maybe what a 100 would be. It just comes through the air so quickly. I have added 3 total grams at 3 and 9 but I may see if I can go to 5 or 6 and just see if that's too much or if it works for me.
It will be easier once I get my SW machine this weekend to really figure out what I'm working with, but based on the RDC measurement I got when I bought the frame, I am most likely at 329 SW right now, which is really nice. Weight is 333 with OG and balance is 6 pts HL. Honestly, pretty great specs for me already, but I want to hit with it for a bit and see how it goes.
It would be awesome to find a 2018 version in 1/4, but they appear to basically be extinct at this point.
It will be easier once I get my SW machine this weekend to really figure out what I'm working with, but based on the RDC measurement I got when I bought the frame, I am most likely at 329 SW right now, which is really nice. Weight is 333 with OG and balance is 6 pts HL. Honestly, pretty great specs for me already, but I want to hit with it for a bit and see how it goes.
It would be awesome to find a 2018 version in 1/4, but they appear to basically be extinct at this point.
SumYungGai
Semi-Pro
Now that I've hit with the VC95 for a while I would have to say I prefer the VCP 97 310 by a good margin. I really liked it's feel, balance, and the launch angle was more similar to my Speed Pros.
djNEiGht
Legend
I'm really happy with my vc95 in stock form but could use a little weight. plus the grip is starting to get mushy. Leather and then some lead to keep the same balance. not sure though where. My 2nd VC95 is way under spec. In stock form I have added about 3g to 10/2 and brought the weight/bal/SW close to my other one. Will be hitting with that possibly tomorrow.
Other than the head size being a 95, I feel that I can just jump right in and play with this racquet. I was really playing well with the Prestige 360+ Mid but I have to be playing often to really use this racquet. I've been coaching/ball feeding mostly so the VC95 has been a welcome addition to my collection.
Other than the head size being a 95, I feel that I can just jump right in and play with this racquet. I was really playing well with the Prestige 360+ Mid but I have to be playing often to really use this racquet. I've been coaching/ball feeding mostly so the VC95 has been a welcome addition to my collection.
racquetreligion
Hall of Fame
Corners to corners I agree the longer the distance the vc95 shines for me as well, distance is no problem most ball explode off it
Loopy lobs, spin shots and pin poin accurate stroke winners are the problem as everything explodes off this beast.
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Power Player
Bionic Poster
Anyone feel like this one plays bigger than its swingweight? I added a little lead to mine and i would have guessed it was 325, but it was actually 317! Pretty surprising. I bumped it up to 323 which is still a little low but it doesnt seem to need much swingweight to crush the ball.
Recoveringhobo
Rookie
Yep, feels super stable even with just a 4 grams added at 3 & 9. I'm guessing due to the twistweight?
I love this racquet except that I felt that I was les consistent with it. So we had a consistency training session and asked the coach to watch my strokes. He noticed I had inconstancy in alignment of the stringbed and the ball (I play with a modern western grip), it differed per swing. I switched to my Extreme Tour and the problem was solved. Now my guess is that I have a hard time feeling the Yonex grip.
Besides a small part in the throat, the Ezone has a thicker beam.
Power Player
Bionic Poster
Maybe so..it's crazy but I'm not sure this frame needs a lot of SW on it.
For science I added some lead at 12 and have it swinging at 323. I will will report back later after I play with it this morning.
Yeah that's what I was referring to, forgot to specify.
I agree 100%, My previous racket was 345 SW, but I feel like I'm getting more power & spin with The Vcore 95. Granted my previous racket was 18x20 and 62 RA.
Perhaps the frame plays a bit stiffer than 64 RA?
