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The same.
Do you suppose the opinions of Federer, Nadal and Djokovic will become irrelevant once they stop playing?
Andy Murray: I have no sympathy for Boris Becker - he broke the law
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The same.
Do you suppose the opinions of Federer, Nadal and Djokovic will become irrelevant once they stop playing?
ArcspacE
G.O.A.T.
Not on matters outside of tennis
NeutralFan
G.O.A.T.
Not many take them thir opinion seriously. Didn't you see Fed fan laughing at Fed's opinion of him playing best tennis at Wimbledon 2015 claim? Lmao
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Becker will only serve 10 months in jail, the rest at home, so he will manage to survive:
Boris Becker will be moved to softer jail within weeks and may serve only TEN months behind bars before spending remainder of his two-and-a-half-year jail term on electronic tag
Boris Becker will be moved to softer jail within weeks and may serve only TEN months behind bars before spending remainder of his two-and-a-half-year jail term on electronic tag
- Becker arrived at HMP Wandsworth on Friday just 2.4 miles from Centre Court
- He received 30-month jail term for hiding £2.5m of assets to avoid paying debts
- Likely to be moved to lower security prison because his offences weren't violent
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
I suppose it was just a matter of time before one of Becker's jet-set buddies pulled his strings...
Ulli Honess got 3.5 years for tax fraud (30 million Euros!) yet after 7 months he was free to leave jail every day and work at his Bayern offices... and served much less time eventually.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Am I still a star?
Rattie
Legend
It’s perfectly normal for him to be moved. He was only taken to Wandsworth as it’s close to the court that sentenced him. He’s not a Cat B prisoner so will go to a Cat C prison once a place has been found for him.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Grafil Injection
Hall of Fame
Isn't that what the insolvency courts had been trying to do for the last 10 years, but he gave them the run around hiding and lying about his assets? This judgement is the result of about 4 attempts to proceed normally being obstructed.
Rattie
Legend
No it won’t be lol. That’s the Home Detention Curfew scheme available to ’low level’ offenders who aren’t expected to return to a life of crime, under certain criteria. I don’t remember the details but it’s a standard amount of time shaved off the custodial period.
It’s not a given he would get it, it’s just something in his case, he would likely be eligible for and the press are jumping on that.
Mustard
Bionic Poster
Translation: Boris Becker offended my mother. I don't like him.“He broke the law, and if you do that, I don’t think you should get special treatment because of who you are or what you’ve achieved” Murray said. “I feel sorry that he’s in that situation, but I also feel sorry for the people that he’s affected with his decisions.”
Andy Murray: I have no sympathy for Boris Becker - he broke the law
Scot says he feels more for those affected by jailed German's actions but Novak Djokovic is 'heartbroken' over former coach's fatewww.telegraph.co.uk
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Empathy badge deactivated.
Mustard
Bionic Poster
What will likely happen is that Becker will get a few weeks in Category B Wandsworth prison, then moved to a Category C prison. It will be at least 10 months, perhaps more, before he's moved to a Category D open prison where he can leave prison for certain hours of the day before returning. He shouldn't get parole until 15 months from now, i.e. around half the sentence, with the rest of the sentence served outside on probation/licence.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
As well as they should.
They jump around anyway like wild bunnies, may as well jump when there is injustice at hand.
Legend of Borg
G.O.A.T.
I've now got family members saying Becker (and famous rich people in general) should not have to play by the same rules as the rest of us because they've earned it through their achievements.
If that isn't rich people Stockholm syndrome I don't know what is...
If that isn't rich people Stockholm syndrome I don't know what is...
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TheNachoMan
Guest
Ronnie is without a doubt an ATG.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
My God, our Masters are succeeding in turning us all into Establishmentbot slaves!
More like the Dusk of the Iconoclast.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Randy Savage would say Ronnie is the cream. The final is still going on now. So close.
NeutralFan
G.O.A.T.
People respect power and position ,it's ingrained in humans. Think when human were living as cave men they had to follow the instruction from cave men leader and respect him. It was needed since there were frequent warfare amoung the tribes and people needed to stick to their leader.
NonP
Legend
Oh and now you're impugning your countryman's motives, too. He couldn't possibly have said what he said because that's what he does believe.
Are you seriously trying to come up with just about the most obnoxious takes on the least controversial matters?
It does have a certain logic to it, namely that successful people do have more to contribute to society, but this has always struck moi as a perverse version of the end justifying the means. Does that mean I could simply not bother to pay my own creditors because I dispense incomparable pearls of wisdom every waking hour? And should we have let rich Covidiots do whatever the hell they wanted at the peak of this pandemic even though that would've jeopardized the lives of their idiot worshipers whose deaths might have left the world better off but would have ruined the lives and well-being of their loved ones? Is that the kind of world we want to live in?
Mustard
Bionic Poster
Judy Murray: Boris Becker comments caused her to 'really struggle'
Judy Murray "really struggled" and did not go out for three days after Boris Becker said son Andy should "ditch" her following Australian Open final defeat.
www.bbc.co.uk
Mad Jon
New User
So maybe I can become rich by not paying taxes, and then I won't go to jail because I'm rich? That sounds like a plan!
NonP
Legend
Judy Murray: Boris Becker comments caused her to 'really struggle'
Judy Murray "really struggled" and did not go out for three days after Boris Becker said son Andy should "ditch" her following Australian Open final defeat.www.bbc.co.uk
Doesn't mean a thing. Being just about the most magnanimous person alive I forget whatever some idiot said to moi only an hour ago, and while I don't expect the same level of magnanimity from everyone else I've seen little indication that Murray is a particularly petty SOB. What makes you think he's still bitter about what Boris said about his mum more than 10 years ago?
At first I thought that might have been tongue in cheek, but doesn't look like it. All because Muzz happens to have stated what is almost a truism, good gawd.
Legend of Borg
G.O.A.T.
How could anyone support a "justice" system where some of us are more heavily punished than others for the same exact crime?
Why even bother calling it justice at that point?
It's like that quote, we're all equal except some of us are more equal than others.
These people in my family are the same ones cheering on Bezos when he went to space in his massive dick ship last year and the ones saying Musk is going to save the world.
FedrMatt
Professional
Seems like Germany never lost their love of an overbearing state
Legend of Borg
G.O.A.T.
I'm sorry Becker is in a violent offenders prison but considering the sentence that he would've gotten if he wasn't THE Boris Becker child prodigy that won Wimbledon at 17 this is actually getting off lightly.
If he was your average Joe Shmoe he'd be in the slammer for a LONG ass time.
If he was your average Joe Shmoe he'd be in the slammer for a LONG ass time.
Rattie
Legend
Not really. Sentencing is never uniform anyway as no judge is the same. Most judges are former barristers who either practised predominantly in defence or prosecution. Former prosecutors tend to sentence more harshly than former defenders in my experience.
Take this case for example. Way more serious than Becker’s, but not a great deal more in terms of length of sentence given.
Diamond fraudster swindled more than 100 pensioners out of £2.5m
David Shivmangal (pictured) and Glenn Ward, 52, helped run Carter Stamford - a front for a 'boiler room' fraud operation between January 2014 and March 2016.
That case had numerous vulnerable victims which is an aggravating feature, just to explain my comment of “way more serious”
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Truth hurts some people
Apun94
Hall of Fame
Why should we always say something nice?
Apun94
Hall of Fame
You can always trust Andy to give the best most balanced take on things“He broke the law, and if you do that, I don’t think you should get special treatment because of who you are or what you’ve achieved” Murray said. “I feel sorry that he’s in that situation, but I also feel sorry for the people that he’s affected with his decisions.”
Andy Murray: I have no sympathy for Boris Becker - he broke the law
Scot says he feels more for those affected by jailed German's actions but Novak Djokovic is 'heartbroken' over former coach's fate
Fiero425
Legend
Well at least Becker's being inconvenienced a little! That's really something in comparison to most celebs who normally get off "Scott-free!"
If Murray dutifullly pays his taxes as a wealthy tennis player, maybe he understands
1) Paying taxes isn’t just for poor people.
2) Folks that move to Britain don’t deserve to not pay taxes.
3) There are victims of Boris’s crimes. Especially when Boris got a second chance.
4) Murray is like everyone else, entitled to his opinion.
My personal aside is Boris really was asking for special treatment wearing the Wimbledon tie.
1) Paying taxes isn’t just for poor people.
2) Folks that move to Britain don’t deserve to not pay taxes.
3) There are victims of Boris’s crimes. Especially when Boris got a second chance.
4) Murray is like everyone else, entitled to his opinion.
My personal aside is Boris really was asking for special treatment wearing the Wimbledon tie.
FedrMatt
Professional
You’ve got to be kidding lol
puppybutts
Hall of Fame
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Apun94
Hall of Fame
Pls elaborate. I have thought he's had the most unbiased and sensible views amongst the tennis players
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Memories of Murray vs Wawrinka at the US Open are coming back to me. Can remember Boris on commentary being less than impressed with Murray's variety. Why doesn't he go for his shots? He's meant to be one of the best returners in the world. etc Shots fired. Behaving like me with his tone. Come on, Boris.
I'm triggered now, Boris. And I don't forget. I never forget.
I'm triggered now, Boris. And I don't forget. I never forget.
Kralingen
Talk Tennis Guru
You have to be a real scumbag and liar to do the things Becker did with his finances. It was completely and totally intentional from start to finish.
This isn't like he forgot to pay a tax bill or he got in a little debt. This is a 20 year history of lies, total manipulation, and likely a lot of defrauded family and friends to fund his lifestyle along the way.
I agree, I don't really have sympathy for him especially becuase it's not like he didn't make money post retirement. He probably got multi millions per year coaching Djokovic and his eurosport commentator job pays really well also! I have sympathy for guys who couldn't find anything after retirement, but Becker had great streams of income and still ballsed it up.
This isn't like he forgot to pay a tax bill or he got in a little debt. This is a 20 year history of lies, total manipulation, and likely a lot of defrauded family and friends to fund his lifestyle along the way.
I agree, I don't really have sympathy for him especially becuase it's not like he didn't make money post retirement. He probably got multi millions per year coaching Djokovic and his eurosport commentator job pays really well also! I have sympathy for guys who couldn't find anything after retirement, but Becker had great streams of income and still ballsed it up.
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Ace of Aces
Semi-Pro
It’s difficult to make the deterrent against not giving the state your money the state taking your money. Prison is probably a better motivator.
Mustard
Bionic Poster
The big crime with Becker is declaring bankruptcy in order to get rid of his debts, but then concealing his assets from the authorities. What's worse is that he seems to have enough assets (on the surface) to have paid off his debts, so why declare bankruptcy and then basically money launder hundreds of thousands of pounds into the accounts of ex-wives and 7 other people? And then there's that Central African Republic business in 2018, when Becker said that he had "diplomatic immunity" from prosecution because of it. Becker basically wanted to be free of his debts, but keep all his assets.
socallefty
G.O.A.T.
I’ve never heard djokovic speak like that about a colleague. He’s a decent gentleman. Murray speaks not like a knight but like a cranky old woman.
If you don’t understand why, I prefer to keep you in your savage state. Stay as you are.
