Andy Murray: I have no sympathy for Boris Becker - he broke the law

wangs78

Legend
None of us know Boris personally. The fact pattern points to him INTENTIONALLY breaking the law (and at an age when he should clearly understand the gravity of the law) so I don't think there is anything mean spirited in saying he's getting what he deserves and having no sympathy for him. The tricky part here is that because he was a charismatic player and commentator, we all kind of had him in our living rooms, seeing him battle on the court (if we're old enough), hearing his voice in the commentator's box, etc. and in that setting he seemed like a super nice guy with whom we could talk tennis over a beer. So in that sense many of us feel sympathy. But the reality is none of us really know him, so that sympathy is kind of misplaced. And furthermore, saying "I have sympathy for" or "I'm heart broken" is generally meaningless. Actions are what count. Will Djokovic go visit Boris in jail? Or at least send him a note? If not, saying he's heart broken is meaningless.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
Just few days back he justified dozens of WCs he got saying "how quickly people forget". He thinks he deserves special treatment just because once British media hyped him as an ATG. But OTOH he wants Becker (A real ATG) to be treated like roadside criminal. Bloody hypocrite.

Apples and oranges. Tennis is a business, I have nothing against big name players who bring more $$$ getting showtime courts and wildcards (when they drop in rankings). Many tennis tournaments especially during recent covid era were struggling, they need to make rational business decisions.

Court of law is a different thing all-together. It is founded on the belief that law should strive to be as just as fair to all as possible, equal justice under law is a pursued ideal.

In the eyes of the law, Becker's sporting achievements should be irrelevant. He's basically just another white collar criminal.

I disagree with Murray on most things and think he's a hilarious woke cliche but on this one I side with him. Becker is just facing just consequences for his actions.
 

JCF

Semi-Pro
Andy would have been calling the nazis on Anne Frank if he lived in Holland back in the 40s.
A little authoritarian thug.
 

JCF

Semi-Pro
He is always causing arguments where there doesn't need to be one, like in that famous interview saying "male player" to virtue signal about what a great feminist he is.
I mean this is an ATP match, the context here is ATP, him bringing WTA into it was just childish and was looking to argue.

What a class A *****!
 

reaper

Legend
I disagree, I think tax crimes should be paid with money, not jail time
Confiscate everything he has, and turn the German state into a new ex-wife that gets an extra large chunk of all the new money he makes

Confiscate everything he has? That's an ordinary provision of bankruptcy not a penalty for fraud perpetrated to try and avoid the consequences of bankruptcy.
 

intrepidish

Hall of Fame
Andy would have been calling the nazis on Anne Frank if he lived in Holland back in the 40s.
A little authoritarian thug.

Candidate for most ridiculous post in a sea of ridiculous posts.

Saying a serial tax cheater in multiple jurisdictions deserves punishment is somehow analogized to calling the Nazis on Anne Frank.

Absolute rubbish.

Becker deserved punishment well before now and received clemency where many would not have over the past several decades. He's entirely to blame for his current state.
 

tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
Now imagine if Becker was a woman. Murray would be the first to wave that "free Borisa" sign in a demonstration.
 

40L0VE

Professional
“He broke the law, and if you do that, I don’t think you should get special treatment because of who you are or what you’ve achieved” Murray said. “I feel sorry that he’s in that situation, but I also feel sorry for the people that he’s affected with his decisions.”

Who are the creditors he owes money to? Murray needs to know this before feeling sorry for the creditors. They could easily be morally more dubious than Boris. Far more.
 

UnderratedSlam

G.O.A.T.
None of us know Boris personally. The fact pattern points to him INTENTIONALLY breaking the law (and at an age when he should clearly understand the gravity of the law) so I don't think there is anything mean spirited in saying he's getting what he deserves and having no sympathy for him. The tricky part here is that because he was a charismatic player and commentator, we all kind of had him in our living rooms, seeing him battle on the court (if we're old enough), hearing his voice in the commentator's box, etc. and in that setting he seemed like a super nice guy with whom we could talk tennis over a beer. So in that sense many of us feel sympathy. But the reality is none of us really know him, so that sympathy is kind of misplaced. And furthermore, saying "I have sympathy for" or "I'm heart broken" is generally meaningless. Actions are what count. Will Djokovic go visit Boris in jail? Or at least send him a note? If not, saying he's heart broken is meaningless.
If Djokovic visits him in jail he'll make sure everyone knows. Immediately. He'll alert the media. He'll strut in there like the politician he is.

Might even kiss a baby in the head.

No, wait, no infants at prisons...
 
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