Will Nadal ever win a slam after becoming a father?

TMF

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Becoming a professional tennis player takes hard work, training, time and will power to be successful player. It's much less difficult for a single player since he has way more free time, no baggage and can focus to tennis 100% of the time. However when a player becomes a devoted father, it's a different ballgame

Federer and Djokovic have won many slams after becoming a father. Remarkable achievements, especially Federer who was busy raising 4 kids but was able to win won 3 more slams in 2017 and 2018.

Will Nadal ever join the elite group ?
 

The Blond Blur

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Seeing as how he’s the only Juan of the Big 3 to win schlems in his teen’s, 20’s and 30’s:

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TMF

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Interesting to note that Pete Sampras who won his last slam(USO) in 2002 was expecting his new first born child in November.

It's possible that Sampras would still be playing had he was still a single man in 2002
 

octobrina10

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Becoming a professional tennis player takes hard work, training, time and will power to be successful player. It's much less difficult for a single player since he has way more free time, no baggage and can focus to tennis 100% of the time. However when a player becomes a devoted father, it's a different ballgame

Federer and Djokovic have won many slams after becoming a father. Remarkable achievements, especially Federer who was busy raising 4 kids but was able to win won 3 more slams in 2017 and 2018.

Will Nadal ever join the elite group ?
Rafa said at his press conference in Mallorca in the middle of June: “… I'm going to be a father. I don't know how this is going to change my life, but I don't expect it to change my professional career.” (Translated from Spanish via Google)

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Zara

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Slams won after becoming a parent

Djokovic -13
Federer - 5
Connors - 3
Wawrinka - 3
Agassi - 1
Becker - 1
Sampras - 0
Nadal - 0

Sampras, really? Didn't he retire before his sons were born?

The Nadal - 0 part did crack me up LMHO

Where's Murray btw?
 
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Also I think Federer's retirement will help extend Nadal's career a lot, because he'll see how terrible retirement is, plus he'll enjoy having the spotlight all to himself :cool:
 

mahatma

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If people are able to concentrate on their work after they have a kid, which clearly they are as they raise their kids ( most of the world), it won't surprise me if Nadal is able to concentrate on his work. Nothing to look here.
 
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Also Nadal may want his kid to see him play, so he'll play for as long as possible until his kid is smart enough to appreciate Nadal's tennis (y)
 

Kralingen

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Federer raised 4 kids, had to laugh at this one - with their army of nannies he could have raised about 50
Yeah, obviously Fed is no struggling single father.. but on the other hand he’s one of the few who actually brought his family on Tour with him as well, which is a challenge in its own right. It’s very different to have a family at home who you see occasionally but travel to most events alone, vs. a 365 day fatherhood obligation even while competing.
 

octobrina10

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Yeah, obviously Fed is no struggling single father.. but on the other hand he’s one of the few who actually brought his family on Tour with him as well, which is a challenge in its own right. It’s very different to have a family at home who you see occasionally but travel to most events alone, vs. a 365 day fatherhood obligation even while competing.
He brought also nannies and a cook on Tour with him.
 
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Why stop there. Why not wait till Father - Son duo can be doubles #1. Why.
Nadal is good enough to play and win in his 40s, but I have my doubts about 50s, but of course we can't predict what science will achieve by then.
The biggest hurdle is that Nadal won't be sure that his son will become a tennis player, so Nadal may just retire after his matured son (4 or 5-year-old) has watched him play a couple of years.
Nadal won't wait around for doubles with his son, because his son may choose soccer or golf....
 
Yeah, obviously Fed is no struggling single father.. but on the other hand he’s one of the few who actually brought his family on Tour with him as well, which is a challenge in its own right. It’s very different to have a family at home who you see occasionally but travel to most events alone, vs. a 365 day fatherhood obligation even while competing.
Federer had/has a gaggle of nannies taking care of his kids. I remember reading that each kid had/has their own nanny. He is hardly like a regular working person in any regard, kids included. These people are not doing all of this child-rearing. They pay other people to do it for them.

As for if Rafa can win any more slams now that he is a father, I am not so sure about that. Rafa tends to be the anxious worrier type, so I can see him struggling to concentrate with a kid around. He struggled mightily in NY due to his wife having pregnancy complications. He was clearly preoccupied with family stuff there and it showed. Time will tell if he can do it, but I would not be surprised if he doesn't adapt very well.
 

ChrisRF

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I honestly don't think Nadal will do anything different now concerning his tennis career. He is so serious about his practice that I doubt his kid(s) will ever come close to the court as long as the session is ongoing.

And apart from that a tennis player has more time with his family/kids than a normal family father with a regular job, so I don't see any issues. His motivation will stay the same. You don't fight for GOAT on the biggest stages for so many years only to lose focus when the decisive final battles are upcoming.
 

Kralingen

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Federer had/has a gaggle of nannies taking care of his kids. I remember reading that each kid had/has their own nanny. He is hardly like a regular working person in any regard, kids included. These people are not doing all of this child-rearing. They pay other people to do it for them.

As for if Rafa can win any more slams now that he is a father, I am not so sure about that. Rafa tends to be the anxious worrier type, so I can see him struggling to concentrate with a kid around. He struggled mightily in NY due to his wife having pregnancy complications. He was clearly preoccupied with family stuff there and it showed. Time will tell if he can do it, but I would not be surprised if he doesn't adapt very well.
Sure he’s obviously richer than Croesus himself and has every possible luxury possible, but it’s not like he is a “father in name only” is my point. He still brought the kids everywhere he went, and I don’t care if everything is being cooked and cleaned for him, managing two sets of twins just in day to day life isn’t easy, lol… by all accounts he is not an absent father, especially for athlete standards, and it’s one of the things I admire most about him.

I think I agree on Rafa, especially as he will be feeling the pressure of retirement as he ages… I mean, his body has gone through so much, a young child at home, I fear that his next “serious” injury may be his last. Zoom out a bit, he’d be 37-38 and now has a young kid he wants to play with - maybe looking at the mountain of rehab and practice doesn’t seem worth it anymore.

On the other hand, he has said that he plans to continue his career as long as possible and if anyone can fight through it’s him.
 

WeekendTennisHack

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Didn't Nadal at one point say he won't have a child until his career is over?
Nadal said that many times, but then in 2021 he changed his mind and said he's lasted longer than he ever expected and that he may need to have children while on the tour.
 
I think it is more important for kids if the parent is there to share in the milestones that the kids have, rather than the other way around.

On that count, you can guarantee that Nadal will be a great parent. He will do the same level of support that his father Sebastian and Uncle Toni have done in supporting the younger generation.

It would be so cool if we had another generation of Nadal in tennis, but he will probably be more interested in futbol.

Spain is one of the absolute best countries in the world to bring up a family. Very good family structures and help for parents to raise kids to grow up safely and comfortably.
 
Maybe they want to become great in the eyes of their kids by doing special things in front of their eyes?
Stefan has watched Novak win so many slams, Charlene and Myla also have watched their dad win many slams, these kids will have a lot of happy memories instead of just growing up as a rich man's kid and nothing else.
So if we see from that perspective it is good to have kids while you have an active career.
Sounds like the height of narcissism to me to have kids just so they can watch you win some tennis tournaments. Also sounds like a way to raise a spoiled brat who thinks they are special simply because they had the luck to be born to a successful/rich parent. Nope, not good parenting, imo.
 

JustMy2Cents

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Maybe they want to become great in the eyes of their kids by doing special things in front of their eyes?
Stefan has watched Novak win so many slams, Charlene and Myla also have watched their dad win many slams, these kids will have a lot of happy memories instead of just growing up as a rich man's kid and nothing else.
So if we see from that perspective it is good to have kids while you have an active career.
on the flip side the kids have also seen some heart breaking losses of their Dads... that would have been tough!
seeing the father stressed may not be a gtreat experience.
Doubtful. Serena has shown it’s difficult to return after childbirth.
Rafa does look great considering he has just had his baby:laughing:

 
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Football is more logical for Rafael Nadal Jr.
If he takes up Tennis then he will be under pressure by everyone (except his own parents) to be as great as Nadal, the media will make ridiculous comparisons, that way Football is a clean slate or some other career with no pressure.

Fair.
 

JustMy2Cents

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Football is more logical for Rafael Nadal Jr.
If he takes up Tennis then he will be under pressure by everyone (except his own parents) to be as great as Nadal, the media will make ridiculous comparisons, that way Football is a clean slate or some other career with no pressure.
there is a famous Nadal in the family in football too... Miguel Angel who had a 15 year career at the top with being on the national team and participating in 3 world cups, 3 Euros etc.
When Rafa won RG, he was asked if he's related to famous footballer Miguel.

Rafa says in his book, as a kid he understood the hard work that goes behind sports success because of his Uncles.
as a 5 year old, he'll tell his Uncles who were both pros... we have a match tomorrow. let's train.
and he'll lead the drills.... he thought he was genuinely helping them, only later he realized they were humoring him, doing the drills behind him

anyway, may be good genes run in the family
 

vernonbc

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Maybe they want to become great in the eyes of their kids by doing special things in front of their eyes?
Stefan has watched Novak win so many slams, Charlene and Myla also have watched their dad win many slams,
Both Roger and Novak have said that they wanted to have kids early enough that their kids could see and appreciate what their dad did in his career. Rafa on the other hand said that he'd wait until his career was over before having kids because it was more important for his kids to see what he did as a father rather than as a tennis player. It will be interesting to see how much longer Rafa carries on.
 
Federer raised 4 kids, had to laugh at this one - with their army of nannies he could have raised about 50
For sure, Federer was not doing most of the work to take care of the kids, and yet him making sure his children were travelling with him everywhere means he was trying to be as involved as he could in theur lives without abandoning his tennis career. I don't think Roger deserves special credit for being a normal parent who cares about his children, but at the same time, people shouldn't automatically minimize his parenting role just because he has a lifestyle that affords to have help with kids when it is required.
 

JustMy2Cents

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Kids pick up their mothertongue from their mother, so that blame should go to Mirka.
Teaching the Kids swiss-german is her responsibility, not Roger's.
the girls were 11, I was quite surprised they only spoke English and why the nannies had more influence over the kids.
I thought the grandpa could have spent some time with them if he was so particular.
 
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