kevin qmto
Hall of Fame
I think the green/red EX looks way ahead of its time. First person I handed it to asked if it was a new release.
Yamaha Secret Appreciation Thread
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michael valek
Hall of Fame
Me neither. Email me mvalek@live.co.uk
tennistiger
Professional
Secret EX 110 has a measured RA strung of 59 !
More soft than stiff compared to the others:
EOS 110: 72
EOS 100: 70
EOS RZ 110: 65
EOS RZ 100: 66
Secret 04 100: 79
Secret 04 110: 73
Secret 10: 68
Secret EX 110: 59
Secret EX 100: 67
I love my Kuebler Resonanz 50 and Wilson Profile Hammer 110 with RA 90! So to be correct all other rackets are soft!!!
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gold325
Hall of Fame
Do you know thickness of the beam on the one you quoted as 59? Could it be because it was designed for Sabbatini who was moving over from a softer POG (also 110 as things were quoted back then)?
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LOBALOT
Hall of Fame
Any YFG-20's? I have 2 brand new that someone here sold me but wouldn't mind adding to my collection.
d-quik
Hall of Fame
any of those 100s or the YFG come with 18 mains?
ongbenghui
New User
My Ex110 meaured ~22.3 (top) 22.3 (3 o'clock/6 o'clock), 23.3 (lower of head), 23.3 (above grip)
Ex110 Tour (Yellow) measured ~20.6 constant beam.
I still love the 2 sticks and playing with them from time to time.
Ex110 Tour (Yellow) measured ~20.6 constant beam.
I still love the 2 sticks and playing with them from time to time.
You don't have to be physically strong to play with heavy racquet, what you have to have is a good classic technique and good footwork.
The other top pros used it were Gabriela Sabatini and Ronald Agenor.
Great forehand! Noise like rifle shot!
kevin qmto
Hall of Fame
I really dig Agenor’s game and form.
Fun Fact: Ronald Agenor’s final professional match (only a few months from his 37th birthday) was against reigning world No. 1 Kuerten, and despite losing, he was up a set and a break at one point, stood a decent chance of winning it.
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
I got my arse handed to me memorably 30+ years ago by a nationally ranked junior wielding one of these “Stop and Go” Yonex racquets. Felt like he never missed a shot.This arrived yesterday, I was waiting for one of these to pop up online for a decent price, and in good shape to boot! The Secret EX! Slightly thinner in beam, but actually heavier than the Secret 04 (368g strung!) This is my favorite Yamaha paint job, and probably my favorite racket case ever.
love the little Yamaha branded zippers on the inside and outside of the case!
yet another effortlessly cool word mark.
a e s t h e t i c
I think he was the only Haiti born pro tennis player such a top level.
I accidentally got my first Yamaha Secret-10 just to put it to my collection, but after played with it once i loved this stick and after sometime got another one. As i understand, the best one is 04, the top model, but i never was lucky to get one. In general i consider Secret-10 quite a modern racquet even with it's 90" head size.
If you hit flat then you don't have to be physically strong because the weight of the racquet provides the power. But, to hit with spin, you have to be strong because the swing is longer and timing needs to be better.
Timing and technique yes not physical power.
I used to do this thing (playing tennis) since 1982
tennistiger
Professional
Yes it was the retail Sabatini frame, 22mm straight beam. But it feels not as soft because of the construction. The later Tour Edition is different to the normal one.Do you know thickness of the beam on the one you quoted as 59? Could it be because it was designed for Sabbatini who was moving over from a softer POG (also 110 as things were quoted back then)?
Notice: Sabatinis rackets had a different mold than the retail one!
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tennistiger
Professional
Secret 10 is 100 which means 97 sq Inch in the Yamaha world.
No way it's 100". The only 100" head size racquet in my collection is Rafa's APD 1st edition and it is visibly bigger. I was mistaken about 90" of Secret-10, i would say it is around 95".
I used to do this thing (playing tennis) since 1982
I've been playing since 1980. I had a Secret 10 (my best friend and frequent opponent played with a Secret 04). The too light and stiff Secret 10 was a disaster for my ground strokes - they had no power. The Secret 10 only seemed to flex on volleys and overhead smashes. I sold it as soon as I could to a friend who hit with slice/flat off both wings. The Secret 10 was marketed as a more flexible Secret model but it was still very stiff. To this day I am still not a fan of racquets that are too light and too stiff.
tennistiger
Professional
Size is always marketing! Yamaha Katalog says 97 for all the 100 Secret and EOS. So it is. Notice that in real Pure Aero and Drive are slightly bigger than 100! But Babolat would sell only half of that If they would say that they are 102.
michael valek
Hall of Fame
Hit me up for 04/110/eos
What do you mean 100 Secret? My racquet is Secret-10. It's not the size that marketing but top players that use that racquet (mostly just endorse it). Babolat could not even notice the head size of their PD and APD after they signed Moya, Roddick and especially Nadal. So many times i saw how beginners asked for "Nadal racquet" in tennis pro shops, they just didn't care about head size and other specs.
I can assume,that Babolats are bigger, don't care about it, i don't like their stuff, i compare my Yamaha with other racquets in head size, especially Dunlop. And i could say that visibly Yamaha is very close to all my 95" sticks, it could be a little bigger, say 96 (even 97, but it is also marketing as you've been mentioned about catalogue data), but no way it is 100" as you posted before. I could compare to other racquets from my collection and i have around 200 of them at the moment.
tennistiger
Professional
Yamaha produced most of the rackets in two sizes and called them 100 and 110. But the real size of the 100 is 97. Thats a bit unlucky.
Where did you get this information? During some short period? Yamaha produced many different racquets in various head sizes, from mid to oversize.
tennistiger
Professional
We spoke about the EOS and Secret time beginning 1990.
tennistiger
Professional
More: Christian Ruud, Dan Goldie, Juan Aguilera, Javier Sanchez (both only a few times despite longer contracts), Akiko Kijimuta, coach Dennis Ralston
As a player Dennis Ralston used Head Arthur Ashe Competition.
Long-time Yamaha user was Bob Lutz, also John Sadri.
michael valek
Hall of Fame
Don’t show me this I just sold my ex110
kevin qmto
Hall of Fame
I wish I had the stomach to make it through a Tennis Spin video of that length, but I just can’t stand that guy. I watched a few moments on mute.
ongbenghui
New User
Check it out.
kevin qmto
Hall of Fame
Oh no, not another Tennis Spin video…
gold325
Hall of Fame
Is it because prices spike and they get harder to find soon after? I assume it does cause it to an extent...
Or it is the cringe factor?
Just read you cant tolerate his voice either..
I typically just move to the SPEC CHECK section of this videos now just for curiosity atleast... sometimes followed by purchases but my 2 attempts to get a Prince Mono at TENNIS SPIN specs failed.
kevin qmto
Hall of Fame
Main thing I can’t tolerate is his inability to check his facts, I’m not even an expert compared to most of the gurus here, and in the dozen or so videos I’ve seen of his he’s constantly getting stuff wrong. Which rackets were used by what pros, what years stuff came out, what racket is stiffer and by how much compared to another, just terrible fact checking and no one seems to call him out on it. He strikes me as someone who doesn’t know nearly as much as they think they do…
And that he’s one of those channels that is clearly trying to generate as much content as possible, solely for ad money and algorithm gaming. Not because he has some great insight to share.
Grafil Injection
Hall of Fame
Yes, in this episode it was the wrong racket to say Gabriela Sabbatini used. She used the oversize. Then he compared the EX's strung specs to his guesses of today's Blade unstrung specs! I mean it's literally 5 minutes to check these things before recording. Pretty racket though.
Can’t help you with the OS, but the closest thing to the MP would be the RF97A.
East Lions
Rookie
I managed to hit with me 06 it during a set of an indifferent set of doubles with some friends. This frame is almost unreal. Thinking about its production date makes it far more unreal. Never experienced a frame thus far with so much power yet so much feel. EXCELLENT serving frame and you dont feel the weight at all. I will certainly be coming back to it periodically. Never leaving my bag for sure.
ongbenghui
New User
Just curious what do you string them with and which tension ?
They are all nice frame to hit from time to time.
michael valek
Hall of Fame
reviving this.....hit with my 04 this morning. anyone yet found anything close? something which makes the same distant thud of heavy artillery but a bit lighter?
kevin qmto
Hall of Fame
The Secret X I had was about 15g lighter than my Secret 04. But that’s 350g strung vs 365g lol. Neither would ever be considered light..
The Wilson Profile 3.6 95 is close in terms of stiffness and power. But not much lighter.
