Sorry, but it is 97 sq. in.No way that thing is 97 sq. in. Looks smaller like a 90.
No, it is not. Just look at that above pic. Have you ever seen a MW200G 90? That pic is not of a 90.It is a OLD Muscle weave 200 G 90 sq inch racket. i have seen it up close.
It is a OLD Muscle weave 200 G 90 sq inch racket. i have seen it up close.
It is a OLD Muscle weave 200 G 90 sq inch racket. i have seen it up close.
Racketdesign once said the closest thing (mold that is and not weight) you could get to the Haas racquet is the old HM yellow 200g XL (but in an 18x20 pattern)
Thus, it is 97 sq. in.
not the graphite lay up, i've been told that he actually tried the HM yellow and didnt like it.
Well, both the Tecnifibre T-Fight 320/335 and the Dunlop M-Fil 200 16x19 are listed as 97 sq. in. and Haas' racquet uses the same mold so I think it's pretty safe to say that it's also 97 sq. in.We have no way of knowing what little idiosyncrasies the racquet manufacturers employ when measuring their frames (Head, Prince) so there is no way we can say, "thus, it is 97sq". Could really be 98sq or 100sq for all we know.
It is a OLD Muscle weave 200 G 90 sq inch racket. i have seen it up close.
Sure looks like the Muscles weave to me. Look at the weaving of the graphite where it is broken, there is no other like it.
Actually it is a common Dunlop. The frame originally started out as the big brother to Flips old 90 si Revelaiton Pro. Scottie D****r used this model, and I have one or two of them around. The 200G XL comes up out of this mold as well. Haas, Berdych, Blake,, amongst others past and present use frames like this. Granted the lay ups of graphite might have been different, but the mold was the same, and the frame is a Dunlop. I started the Tyger thing, stating that at that time, the closest yo u could buy to a Haas frame commercially at that time was a Tyger Xcel Drive 630, now better yet, if you do not mind a more open string bed, and lighter weight, the 200G XL is straight up out of that mold and wears Dunlop colours. And Haas did try the yellow and black paint for the 200G, he and his coach agreed they didn't like it. Dunlop has and continues to bust their butts to find something he likes. And listen to what Racket Design has to say, dude used to work there, and helped create this one from scratch.
Here are pics of my Muscle Weave 200G 90... Fedace has no clue what he's talking about... so sad...
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=158357&highlight=Muscle+Weave+200G
Um...no, he doesn't. Haas uses a custom racquet that is not sold in the stores. The Tecnifibre T-Fight 335 18x20 is the closest thing to what Haas actually uses.he uses dunlop 300 aerogel
That is not a MW 200g 90 by any stretch of the imagination. I have 3 of these and it's not even close to what he uses. The 90's I have most resemble a PC600 mold and what Tommy Haas is holding looks nothing of the sort. The custom mold information in the 97" range is the only viable info out available. Especially since the information came from Paul at Vantage who worked for Dunlop.
You wanna sell one of those? Haha.
Back to the subject, uhh, I'm not a racket expert so I'm not going to say who's right or wrong. But I think it would be pretty hard to tell what racket he's really using without getting our hands on it or somehow have him tell us the truth.
alfa,I've owned both Haas' racket (with the Dunlop 300 M-Fil paintjob) and Blake's racket (300G Hotmelt paintjob and 200 M-Fil paintjob). Breakpoint is right that Haas' mold seems identical to the TF335. His racket weighed 12.7 ounces strung after I removed all the lead tape. With lead it was wel over 13 ounces (he had it at 3&9 and under the the top of the handle). Blake's mold was NOT the same as Haas', but it was not the stock 300G or 200G mold either. The interesting thing about Haas' 300 M-Fil paintjob was that part of the paint around the throat was left "matte" (like the old MW model, but it was in no way the stock MW mold). Like it's been mentioned, think TF335 mold. I have no idea of what the actual layup of the racket was. His grip shape was very rectangular, like Head rackets, but it was molded, not pallets. Haas had a blue Gamma Hi-Tech grip under the overgrip. It was a pretty playable racket without the lead and rock solid. Hope this helps.
It's one of my favorite racquets so i'll probably never sell them. Worth searching for though, it pockets the ball beautifully.
I have an old original Haas frame with the MW pj here at home. It is surely the same mold as the T.Fight 320/335. I put a TF bumper on it and it fits! Also it is quit heavy and has a pretty soft frame. But a friend of mine who strung his rackets several times over the last years said that his frames became stiffer since the times of the MW pj.
Another friend who strings his rackets very often said that in the last months he dropped the racket weight a lot and also went down to 28 kilo string tension due to his shoulder problems.
I have an old original Haas frame with the MW pj here at home. It is surely the same mold as the T.Fight 320/335. I put a TF bumper on it and it fits! Also it is quit heavy and has a pretty soft frame. But a friend of mine who strung his rackets several times over the last years said that his frames became stiffer since the times of the MW pj.
Another friend who strings his rackets very often said that in the last months he dropped the racket weight a lot and also went down to 28 kilo string tension due to his shoulder problems.
It is a OLD Muscle weave 200 G 90 sq inch racket. i have seen it up close.
Sorry, but it is 97 sq. in.
my friends, haas uses an old head stick!! i know the stringer at IMG academies who strung them and who has some of his older M_fil frames..the frame looks identical to an old Pro Tour 630. especially it can be seen clearly at the throat area and at the aera shortly before the grip begins..this stringer told me that haas still uses and old Twintube radical tour 630( uncustomized specs similar to prestige MP, but a little higher swingweight). The Pro Tour 630, Head twintube radical tour 630, or even the head prestige MG Mp have an identical mold. These molds ar so common on the tour that almost every racquet company has them. For example, Tecnifibre's T-Fight 335, 320 come from this mold. The T-fight 325 is actually a Head prestige XL..same mold..and the Head prestige XL is a longer version of a Pro Tour 630...I am not saying that u are buyin an old pro tour 630, when u are buyin a head liquidmetal Prestige MP..The liquidmetal series have a slightly different mold.especially in the throat area..there are places that are not as smooth as the Pro Tour. Back to the Topic...Haas uses a standard lenght stick..with uncustomized specs that are very similar to a head Prestige MP. he adds lead to 3+9 O'clock and in the gripp. I was told that he is experimenting with balances because of his shoulder. he tried a 28 cmbalance..i dont know if he is stil using it..and his racquet is about 370-380 gr. unstrung. Full natural Gut. Actually such a combination must be paradise on earth. Nobody can tell what is exactly under the PJ of his racquet but it is not false to say that it is based on a head racquet. The Dunlop M-Fil 200 Plus frames, as well as the Dunlop AG 300 tour..are very similar molds but with different drill patterns.
IT is the OLD muscle weave racket. very solid frame, that is no longer made. I believe his model is heavier than than the retail version was being sold.