Nadal wins head to head against all the TOP 10 players!!!

Nadalator · Feb 22, 2009

Wow!

Since tomorrow Nadal dominates the head to head against all the top 10 players! Amazing!

Nalbandian is falling from the top 10 this and Monfils is the new guest

Nadal head to head against the top 10.

Federer 13-6
Djokovic 10-4
Murray 5-2
Davydenko 3-2
Roddick 4-2
Del Potro 3-0
Simon 3-1
Verdasco 7-0
Monfils 4-1

Nadal is 52-18 against the top 10! Wow!

Has any number 1 had a favourable head to head against every top 10 player???

LanceStern · Feb 22, 2009

Federer? I don't know because he might not have had a favorable head 2 head vs. nalbandian and hewitt. When he finally got that, Nadal showed up.

That's a very impressive stat of Nadal's. Should be no reason why he's not number 1

P_Agony · Feb 22, 2009

I see Murray changing that record...Murray owns Nadal and Federer on hard courts.

But interesting to see Davydenko is the top 10 who gives Nadal the most trouble.

beneszilo · Feb 22, 2009

52-18 WOW That is impressing!

sheq · Feb 22, 2009

wow that'S an extraordinary statistic

Love Game · Feb 22, 2009

Nadalator said:
Wow!

Since tomorrow Nadal dominates the head to head against all the top 10 players! Amazing!

Nalbandian is falling from the top 10 this and Monfils is the new guest

Nadal head to head against the top 10.

Federer 13-6
Djokovic 10-4
Murray 5-2
Davydenko 3-2
Roddick 4-2
Del Potro 3-0
Simon 3-1
Verdasco 7-0
Monfils 4-1

Nadal is 52-18 against the top 10! Wow!

Has any number 1 had a favourable head to head against every top 10 player???

Interesting stat!

janipyt05 · Feb 22, 2009

Andy Murray who

Cyan · Feb 22, 2009

P_Agony said:
I see Murray changing that record...Murray owns Nadal and Federer on hard courts.

But interesting to see Davydenko is the top 10 who gives Nadal the most trouble.

On clay, grass and slow Hard Courts, wont be easy for Murray to beat Rafa.

Spider · Feb 22, 2009

Thats an impressive record and shows utter dominance against his opponents. A 75% winning record against your closes rivals, wow, simply impressive!!

Did Federer have this record (winning against your nearest rivals). I ask because Nadal broke into the top 10 in 05 and has been Fed's biggest rival since then. And prior to that Nalbandian (and Hewitt) lead the head to head versus Federer till Fed found a way to beat these guys. So I was wondering whether Fed held this record during his reign as the world number one player? I would appreciate your input.

Spider · Feb 22, 2009

In other word did Hewitt and Nalbandian get out of the top 10 (before Nadal entered into the scenes) during Fed's reign?

Rickson · Feb 22, 2009

That's bad news for Rafa regarding Roger. Rafa now has the curse of 13 working against him and until he takes his licks, he's in some trouble.

danb · Feb 22, 2009

Well, Rafa still can't do ballet so Fed is the better player (kidding).
Then, let's remember, according to tennis experts Murray owns Rafa (???!!!???) on HC

LanceStern · Feb 22, 2009

Murray currently owns Fed and Nadal on Hardcourts in 3 setters (and technically 5 setters for Nadal)

Noveson · Feb 22, 2009

Wow that is a crazy statistic

helloworld · Feb 22, 2009

Nadalator said:
Wow!

Since tomorrow Nadal dominates the head to head against all the top 10 players! Amazing!

Nalbandian is falling from the top 10 this and Monfils is the new guest

Nadal head to head against the top 10.

Federer 13-6
Djokovic 10-4
Murray 5-2
Davydenko 3-2
Roddick 4-2
Del Potro 3-0
Simon 3-1
Verdasco 7-0
Monfils 4-1

Nadal is 52-18 against the top 10! Wow!

Has any number 1 had a favourable head to head against every top 10 player???

Wow, your name says it all.

chrisdaniel · Feb 22, 2009

...

That is very, very impressive.

crazylevity · Feb 22, 2009

Federer holds the record of 26 consecutive matches won against top ten ranked opponents. The streak lasted from October 2003 to January 2005, when he lost to Marat Safin in a semifinal of the Australian Open.

Nadal's statistic is very impressive as well, though. Funny that with that record against top ten opponents, he hasn't won a Masters Cup yet. I think the most impressive thing to achieve against top ten opposition is to go unbeaten at the Masters Cup.

babbette · Feb 23, 2009

You better recongnize! :mrgreen:

I miss him.Does anyone look like him and is willing to go out with a desperate girl?

edmondsm · Feb 23, 2009

That is an amazing stat. I can't believe how many time Nadal and Djokovic have played already. Not that far off from the number of times he's played Federer

allcourter2008 · Feb 23, 2009

It's a very impressive statistic, but lets keep in mind that 24 of the 58 wins (+41%) were on clay.

Cyan · Feb 23, 2009

crazylevity said:
Federer holds the record of 26 consecutive matches won against top ten ranked opponents. The streak lasted from October 2003 to January 2005, when he lost to Marat Safin in a semifinal of the Australian Open.

Nadal's statistic is very impressive as well, though. Funny that with that record against top ten opponents, he hasn't won a Masters Cup yet. I think the most impressive thing to achieve against top ten opposition is to go unbeaten at the Masters Cup.

Indoors is Rafa's worst surface.

icedevil0289 · Feb 23, 2009

allcourter2008 said:
It's a very impressive statistic, but lets keep in mind that 24 of the 58 wins (+41%) were on clay.

that's true, but than that also means that 59% of the wins were not on clay and for someone who was labeled only a clay courter, that is impressive.

allcourter2008 · Feb 23, 2009

icedevil0289 said:
that's true, but than that also means that 59% of the wins were not on clay and for someone who was labeled only a clay courter, that is impressive.

Of course it's still very impressive, but if you take clay out of the picture Nadal's stat against the top10 is 28:17.

LanceStern · Feb 23, 2009

I don't want to diminish from Nadal's awesome stat there at all, but that does paint the picture a little bit better for me.

Then again, his clay court record is unbeliavable to (like 105+ Wins / 2 Losses the past few years?).

tahiti · Feb 23, 2009

Interesting statistics, I suppose that's why he's no. 1.

Nadal is improving on indoor courts but he really plays best in "home conditions", hot and clay.

jackson vile · Feb 23, 2009

allcourter2008 said:
Of course it's still very impressive, but if you take clay out of the picture Nadal's stat against the top10 is 28:17.

You are kidding me right, that is about the most moronic thing I have ever heard of.

Get your head out from where the sun don't shine!

Try as they might, twist as hard as they can, they can't stop Nadal from dominating their favorite players.

DEAL WITH IT

Deleted member 21996 · Feb 23, 2009

janipyt05 said:
Andy Murray who

Andy "i bageled the world's number one , the same one who was aced 7 times by a man 36 years old man with ciatica" Murray... you never heard of him?

svijk · Feb 23, 2009

don't know how you guys have time to do this but thats a great stat and a great pointer (clay ct wins). useful thread unlike many other out there. can't believe someone actually started a thread on who has the best smile???? dumb.

allcourter2008 · Feb 23, 2009

jackson vile said:
You are kidding me right, that is about the most moronic thing I have ever heard of.

Get your head out from where the sun don't shine!

Try as they might, twist as hard as they can, they can't stop Nadal from dominating their favorite players.

DEAL WITH IT

How old are you? 12, or 13?

veroniquem · Feb 23, 2009

danb said:
Well, Rafa still can't do ballet so Fed is the better player (kidding).
Then, let's remember, according to tennis experts Murray owns Rafa (???!!!???) on HC

Nobody owns Rafa. That's why he has a winning record vs the top 10. Very impressive statistic. Against the whole (current)tour Nadal has only 2 losing head to heads (I'm not counting single encounters as that's not very significant): Nalby and Blake and even those would not qualify as "ownage": 2-0 for Nalby and 3-2 for Blake.

veroniquem · Feb 23, 2009

allcourter2008 said:
How old are you? 12, or 13?

Older than you and less dumb for sure. Hey let's take indoor hard out of the picture for Fed and he has never won the Master Cup, interesting, hum? Heck let's take all hard court stats out of the picture for Fed, wow he has only won 5 slams, fewer than Nadal and all on one surface, that's really bad + he's lost 4 slam finals, ah what a loser!

veroniquem · Feb 23, 2009

LanceStern said:
Murray currently owns Fed and Nadal on Hardcourts in 3 setters (and technically 5 setters for Nadal)

Technically Murray owns Rafa in best of 5 because he won ONE match? (they're actually 1-1 in best of 5 on hard court) Interesting way to look at things. And Murray doesnt "own" Rafa in best of 3 either as he has only won 1 of them vs 3 for Nadal. Murray owns Federer in best of 3 as he has won 5 of those matches vs only 1 for Fed, that would qualify as ownage, yes.

edmondsm · Feb 23, 2009

veroniquem said:
Nobody owns Rafa. That's why he has a winning record vs the top 10. Very impressive statistic. Against the whole (current)tour Nadal has only 2 losing head to heads (I'm not counting single encounters as that's not very significant): Nalby and Blake and even those would not qualify as "ownage": 2-0 for Nalby and 3-2 for Blake.

veroniquem said:
Older than you and less dumb for sure. Hey let's take indoor hard out of the picture for Fed and he has never won the Master Cup, interesting, hum? Heck let's take all hard court stats out of the picture for Fed, wow he has only won 5 slams, fewer than Nadal and all on one surface, that's really bad + he's lost 4 slam finals, ah what a loser!

veroniquem said:
Technically Murray owns Rafa in best of 5 because he won ONE match? (they're actually 1-1 in best of 5 on hard court) Interesting way to look at things. And Murray doesnt "own" Rafa in best of 3 either as he has only won 1 of them vs 3 for Nadal. Murray owns Federer in best of 3 as he has won 5 of those matches vs only 1 for Fed, that would qualify as ownage, yes.

Very good posts. Although I will say, if anybody owns Nadal, it is my boy Nalbandian. David was past his prime and only on a hot streak, and Nadal got obliterated on both occasions. Vamos!!!!:twisted:

veroniquem · Feb 23, 2009

edmondsm said:
Very good posts. Although I will say, if anybody owns Nadal, it is my boy Nalbandian. David was past his prime and only on a hot streak, and Nadal got obliterated on both occasions. Vamos!!!!:twisted:

Yep Nalbandian can be proud of himself: his record vs Rafa is the best there is!

edmondsm · Feb 23, 2009

veroniquem said:
Yep Nalbandian can be proud of himself: his record vs Rafa is the best there is!

It's really too bad that all tournaments don't take place on carpet in an air-conditioned indoor arena. If that was the case, David would be GOAT. Maybe he needs to convert to racquetball.

ESP#1 · Feb 23, 2009

I wonder if Nadal could beat Nalbandian now, I get the impression that Nalby has his number but who knows,

edmondsm · Feb 23, 2009

ESP#1 said:
I wonder if Nadal could beat Nalbandian now, I get the impression that Nalby has his number but who knows,

I would put my money on Nadal regardless of venue.

roddickfan90 · Feb 24, 2009

against roddick, they played twice on clay and when rod was injured.

roddickfan90 · Feb 24, 2009

and actually,if you take away clay, nadal dont have a great record over top 10, but a great stat none the less

veroniquem · Feb 24, 2009

edmondsm said:
It's really too bad that all tournaments don't take place on carpet in an air-conditioned indoor arena. If that was the case, David would be GOAT. Maybe he needs to convert to racquetball.

I don't know, I think David is struggling with consistency even indoors.

veroniquem · Feb 24, 2009

ESP#1 said:
I wonder if Nadal could beat Nalbandian now, I get the impression that Nalby has his number but who knows,

Let's not get carried away now, both wins were back to back in fast indoor tournaments. We'd have to see what happens on other surfaces and also in best of 5 (both matches were in best of 3)

rubberduckies · Feb 24, 2009

edmondsm said:
Very good posts. Although I will say, if anybody owns Nadal, it is my boy Nalbandian. David was past his prime and only on a hot streak, and Nadal got obliterated on both occasions. Vamos!!!!:twisted:

Fed got beaten by Nalbandian in those same tournaments. So did everybody else. Does Nalby own Fed?

luckyboy1300 · Feb 24, 2009

Nadalator said:
Wow!

Since tomorrow Nadal dominates the head to head against all the top 10 players! Amazing!

Nalbandian is falling from the top 10 this and Monfils is the new guest

Nadal head to head against the top 10.

Federer 13-6
Djokovic 10-4
Murray 5-2
Davydenko 3-2
Roddick 4-2
Del Potro 3-0
Simon 3-1
Verdasco 7-0
Monfils 4-1

Nadal is 52-18 against the top 10! Wow!

Has any number 1 had a favourable head to head against every top 10 player???

impressive! however let nadal break first the record of 27 consecutive wins against top 10 players then we can talk again about serious domination of the top 10 players.

edmondsm · Feb 24, 2009

rubberduckies said:
Fed got beaten by Nalbandian in those same tournaments. So did everybody else. Does Nalby own Fed?

Has Federer played and beaten Nalbandian elsewhere? Yes. Has Nadal? No.

And what I posted wasn't even a slight against Nadal, it was more of a compliment. I said "if anyone owns Nadal, it's Nalbandian." Of all the great players out their, the only one that has truly handled Nadal in their meetings is Nalbandian. And it isn't really even ownage, they've only met twice.

veroniquem · Feb 24, 2009

luckyboy1300 said:
impressive! however let nadal break first the record of 27 consecutive wins against top 10 players then we can talk again about serious domination of the top 10 players.

I disagree. I find overall winning head to heads vs the top 10 a more impressive record. 27 consecutive wins if you have losing records vs some of the top 10 just means you didn't get to meet the guys that bother you for a few months, not being dominated by anyone is more difficult to achieve IMO.

luckyboy1300 · Feb 24, 2009

veroniquem said:
I disagree. I find overall winning head to heads vs the top 10 a more impressive record. 27 consecutive wins if you have losing records vs some of the top 10 just means you didn't get to meet the guys that bother you for a few months, not being dominated by anyone is more difficult to achieve IMO.

top 10 change every now and then. the player who totally owns you might drop out some time, screwing the record. well, to each his own. nalby and blake were top 10 last year too. during those 27 wins federer had met nalby, hewitt, henman, and agassi, all of them having very good h2hs vs federer before the run, so i don't know how your statement holds in this situation.

veroniquem · Feb 24, 2009

luckyboy1300 said:
top 10 change every now and then. the player who totally owns you might drop out some time, screwing the record. well, to each his own. nalby and blake were top 10 last year too. during those 27 wins federer had met nalby, hewitt, henman, and agassi, all of them having very good h2hs vs federer before the run, so i don't know how your statement holds in this situation.

It's a very good record I'm sure but I'd also take overall highest win % if I had a choice. Was the 27 consecutive wins in 2006? It was definitely an extraordinary year by any standards! However careerwise Nadal's win % is higher than Federer's. Would you rather have a couple amazing years or a more consistent high level overall? I don't know, it's a matter of opinion I guess.

luckyboy1300 · Feb 24, 2009

veroniquem said:
It's a very good record I'm sure but I'd also take overall highest win % if I had a choice. Was the 27 consecutive wins in 2006? It was definitely an extraordinary year by any standards! However careerwise Nadal's win % is higher than Federer's. Would you rather have a couple amazing years or a more consistent high level overall? I don't know, it's a matter of opinion I guess.

t'was from late 2003 until safin stops it in 2005 ao semis. so he's undefeated in the whole year of 2004 vs top 10 players. oh well to each his own i guess.

edmondsm · Feb 24, 2009

veroniquem said:
It's a very good record I'm sure but I'd also take overall highest win % if I had a choice. Was the 27 consecutive wins in 2006? It was definitely an extraordinary year by any standards! However careerwise Nadal's win % is higher than Federer's. Would you rather have a couple amazing years or a more consistent high level overall? I don't know, it's a matter of opinion I guess.

Federer averaged more then 2 slams a year over six years, and was #1 for the majority of that stretch, and you are saying that he had a "couple amazing years"? You would take Nadal's career over Fed's? If I didn't know better, I would think you were joking.

flying24 · Feb 24, 2009

edmondsm said:
Federer averaged more then 2 slams a year over six years, and was #1 for the majority of that stretch, and you are saying that he had a "couple amazing years"? You would take Nadal's career over Fed's? If I didn't know better, I would think you were joking.

If Federer only had a couple amazing years than Nadal must have had no amazing years since Federer has had FOUR years clearly greater than Nadal's thus far best year (2008 ).

Nadal wins head to head against all the TOP 10 players!!!

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