Whats your problem?
Ease off the angry sauce.
This thread went from legitimate discussion to J011y hate to LeeD hate, got to love it.
My problem are uneducated and low skilled tennis players who seem to be oracles on the internet forums.
I started playing my best when I stopped worrying about winning and losing and started concentrating on how to play well and making sure I'm doing what set out to do in the match ie. game plan. The winning always takes care of itself...and if not, and you lose and you gave it your all, well he was just better, move on, tomorrow is another day. Gallwey in Inner Game talks about this and explains it very well.
LeeD I'm 30 as well, I'm not going anywhere with my tennis either...well, meaning not like I'll make a living playing tournaments.
Yes. What he said! 8)
Originally Posted by tennis_balla
I started playing my best when I stopped worrying about winning and losing and started concentrating on how to play well and making sure I'm doing what set out to do in the match ie. game plan. The winning always takes care of itself...and if not, and you lose and you gave it your all, well he was just better, move on, tomorrow is another day. Gallwey in Inner Game talks about this and explains it very well.
Jolly hate kinda makes me nostalgic. Those were some fun days of name calling back and forth. Sure nothing got accomplished but I was entertained for a little.
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Well, you look young and fit, strong and still active.
LawMan had stated he tried once around age 21, but injuries kept him off the courts on and off for the next 6 years, then life came into perspective.
Clint was too full of himself, and being a skinny tiny guy like myself, would need some extraordinary shot to make it. He didn't have one. His serve was much weaker than mine, and I didn't come close to winninga Q.
TonLars we know could hit some of the best groundies of anyone, had match experience, was level headed, just needed a serve to win some easy points and a head that allows for a big serve, but still hit consistent groundies.
You had the most potential of all, but maybe the wisest also.
His serve was much weaker than mine, and I didn't come close to winninga Q.
Yeah, that last post was a dozy. Clint Thomson made it to 466 and if Lee has a "much better" serve, I would love to see that. It must be sweet. Also, no offense to TonLars but his forehand does not have nearly the racquet speed of Clint's. To say he had the best groundies of anyone is silly. The difference between these forehands is huge.
http://www.youtube.com/user/TonLars#p/u/12/rRRt8jXJ-is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZhlwcdUxOE&feature=related
Laugh if you must, or want. I know you didn't hit any 129 mph serves ever.
Dude its a forum take a chill pill. Is Leed a bs artist sure but he isnt hurting anyone. You act like he is tying down virgins and sacrificing them to the gods.
Sure, but consider...
I claim about 110 nowadaze. I'm 62. I assume I hit a faster serve then, as would you.
Now about the 110. Nobody wants to hit with me, and you know I"ve posted my phone # more than 10 times. Rain happens often, and the one solid lead was for hitting on Monday at around 7PM, when I had to be in Oakland at 5;30PM, the other side of the flyover traffic and tied up with g/f. AND, I didn't get the notice until 11AM that day. Could you get notice at 11AM, then drop everything on a day rain was supposed to hit by evening, to forego finish dimensions on g/f's cabinet's, to be done with said g/f, just to chance a possible hit with somebody who had to drive 40 miles into BayArea traffic?
You poo poo my "110". Consider, I have played doubles with a few Div1 singles players, and a few Opens. Mostly they stand in, close to the baseline, to return serves. I hit a few right at them, and they stand back 4' to return my first serves. They don't stand that far back for anyone else's serves.
Consider, I have played doubles with a few Div1 singles players, and a few Opens. Mostly they stand in, close to the baseline, to return serves. I hit a few right at them, and they stand back 4' to return my first serves. They don't stand that far back for anyone else's serves.
First off, Im hitting with a 4.0 player in the video you posted of mine. You may like how another stroke looks better than mine, but ill take my forehand with almost anyones. From a front view in this video there is no racquet head speed difference at all:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwVEKGSVJBQ
You think 12 and 14 year olds are better than division 1 college players though so I cant be surprised with any garbage you say.
Dude, you do not understand that people here are looking for real advices? The last thing they need are semi-smart advices of an uneducated and low-skilled tennis player who seems to know everything and who seems to play as Federer (or better). This is a real problem for me. This should be a real problem for you, too.
It was very entertaining, especially since it was usually j011y, joel, and dennis against drak, topaz, and tw mac. Pretty fun days, now it's just listening to LeeD's ridiculous posts
Only one way to solve this. We all have to convince Clint Thomson to play the upcoming 15,000 dollar opens tournament in Victoria. Then we could have the TTW showdown: Tonalrs vs. Clint
Sure, but consider...
I claim about 110 nowadaze. I'm 62. I assume I hit a faster serve then, as would you.
Now about the 110. Nobody wants to hit with me, and you know I"ve posted my phone # more than 10 times. Rain happens often, and the one solid lead was for hitting on Monday at around 7PM, when I had to be in Oakland at 5;30PM, the other side of the flyover traffic and tied up with g/f. AND, I didn't get the notice until 11AM that day. Could you get notice at 11AM, then drop everything on a day rain was supposed to hit by evening, to forego finish dimensions on g/f's cabinet's, to be done with said g/f, just to chance a possible hit with somebody who had to drive 40 miles into BayArea traffic?
You poo poo my "110". Consider, I have played doubles with a few Div1 singles players, and a few Opens. Mostly they stand in, close to the baseline, to return serves. I hit a few right at them, and they stand back 4' to return my first serves. They don't stand that far back for anyone else's serves.
Are you serious with this.
There is so much bad advice given here on a daily basis but you choose Leeds to attack.
I thought I mentioned I qualify for SocialSecurity back in Feb. That's 62.
No. He did.
Ahhh and I am reminded of why people demand videos from LeeD. He just said he has a much better serve than a guy who was ranked 466 in the world.
Just wondering, what is your definition of "making it" as a player? I mean Clint goes multiple rounds in futures events and is currently 685 in the world. Sure, he's not a superstar, but that's pretty good.
You know, your grandpa is a sage.
But if you see my serve now, extrapolate back 35 years, you MIGHT be impressed.
What do they say? You lose about 10 % for every 10 years after 30?
So I lost 32%. Even if I spin a fast second serve in at 100mph, something I can do with a really high percentage that bothers most players more than my flat 110 serve, you'd have to think I could hit that serve around 115 in my younger years. So extrapolate what additional speed I'd get for a pure flat, and it might be right arouned the mid 120's, like I always said! :shock:
Kinda like...my average first try no warmup standing long jump right now is right at the 6'6" mark. 45 years ago, with no warmup and first attempt, right around 9'. Well, I've gained over 30 lbs since, have a currently swelling sprained ankle, and out of shape from 3 years of no running or jogging.
Life is tough, then you die.
You know, your grandpa is a sage.
But if you see my serve now, extrapolate back 35 years, you MIGHT be impressed.
What do they say? You lose about 10 % for every 10 years after 30?
So I lost 32%. Even if I spin a fast second serve in at 100mph, something I can do with a really high percentage that bothers most players more than my flat 110 serve, you'd have to think I could hit that serve around 115 in my younger years. So extrapolate what additional speed I'd get for a pure flat, and it might be right arouned the mid 120's, like I always said! :shock:
Kinda like...my average first try no warmup standing long jump right now is right at the 6'6" mark. 45 years ago, with no warmup and first attempt, right around 9'. Well, I've gained over 30 lbs since, have a currently swelling sprained ankle, and out of shape from 3 years of no running or jogging.
You know, your grandpa is a sage.
But if you see my serve now, extrapolate back 35 years, you MIGHT be impressed.
What do they say? You lose about 10 % for every 10 years after 30?
So I lost 32%. Even if I spin a fast second serve in at 100mph, something I can do with a really high percentage that bothers most players more than my flat 110 serve, you'd have to think I could hit that serve around 115 in my younger years. So extrapolate what additional speed I'd get for a pure flat, and it might be right arouned the mid 120's, like I always said! :shock:
Kinda like...my average first try no warmup standing long jump right now is right at the 6'6" mark. 45 years ago, with no warmup and first attempt, right around 9'. Well, I've gained over 30 lbs since, have a currently swelling sprained ankle, and out of shape from 3 years of no running or jogging.
Haha, serve you probably have me beat but Ive got you on the standing jump. At the Olypmic training center last fall they had a place on the floor that measured it out, and I did it for fun and got about 9 3/4 feet.
Yes, and that is why I've always respected TonLar's game. He has movement, but more important, he's WILLING to move for each point. Lots of guys, like Monfils, can leap huge distances...in his case, easily 10'. But it's the willingness to use your athletic ability on every point that makes a player stand out from all the posers.
You can look up SanFrancisco's AbrahamLincoln standing long jump record all around the top of the boy's gym. From 1964 thru 1982, I had the 10'2" record. In my mid '30's, going there to play 3 on 3, I saw my name was no longer up there, some guy did 11', but I don't know his nationality or size.
By the time I started tennis at age 24, I'd already collected two compound fractures of my tib/fib on different legs, one collarbone, several dislocates.
Wow, this is a comedy routine. Tony slaps at his forehand for goodness sakes. Clint has amazing racquet head speed and was once in the top 500. Give me a break.
Yeah, he has got the ranking and who can say different that he is the better player? But what is your issue with me? I have told you that I have beaten and played close with guys similar to that ranking and level. You dont like the way my forehand looks, but that doesnt mean a thing. I dont play futures and tour around, but when I beat or play close with those kind of players at open events it makes you look stupid when you keep ragging on me.
You can look up SanFrancisco's AbrahamLincoln standing long jump record all around the top of the boy's gym. From 1964 thru 1982, I had the 10'2" record. In my mid '30's, going there to play 3 on 3, I saw my name was no longer up there
From 1964 thru 1982, I had the 18'2" record. In my mid '50's,
going there to play 3 on 3, I dunked on Shaquille O'Neal and I saw my
name was no longer up there.
By the time I started tennis at age 24, I'd already had broken every bone
in my body and was diagnosed by doctors to now be an invertebrate -- but I still had
very poor flexibility.