Roger loves to poke Murray, doesn't he?

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Latest comments from Roger about Murray -
"I'm not taking anything away from what Andy did, but was Asia the strongest this year?' asked Federer in the Daily Telegraph. "I'm not sure. Novak wasn't ther, I wasn't there and Rafa lost early (in shanghai)"
 
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Strange comment seeing that Federer didn't play anybody in the top 4 to win his last 2 titles.:-?
Furthermore, Murray came back from a set down to beat the guy whom Federer generally takes a big crap against. LOL! Nadal in the finals of Tokyo. That was a damn good win for Murray. Also take note it was Murray who wiped the court with Federer in Shanghai last year. 6-3, 6-2.
 
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This was the biggest 'oh snap' comment about Murray's post USO season though -
"It has been a good effort by him after losing to Kevin Anderson in Montreal [in August]," Federer offered. "Don't forget how things were looking then"

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Man, Roger can be snarky, hehehe.
 
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Mike Sams said:
Strange comment seeing that Federer didn't play anybody in the top 4 to win his last 2 titles.:-?
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Who's going to say something to Roger though?

Novak and Nadal have clearly had a better year than Roger and don't need to trash talk to prove anything. Murray really can't say anything back because he'll have to back it up and you know how well undue pressure affects him. What interest do the others in the top 8 have in defending Murray?

So excellent mind games by Roger to spook his biggest threat at the wtf.
 
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nikdom said:
Who's going to say something to Roger though?

Novak and Nadal have clearly had a better year than Roger and don't need to trash talk to prove anything. Murray really can't say anything back because he'll have to back it up and you know how well undue pressure affects him. What interest do the others in the top 8 have in defending Murray?

So excellent mind games by Roger to spook his biggest threat at the wtf.
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Well he tried to spook Murray before Toronto and Shanghai last year and paid the price. Murray was aggressive and blew Federer off the court did he not? :lol: Federer needs to be careful with his words. P*ssing off Murray will not benefit him in a best of 3 hardcourt where Murray is the most dangerous. Just my opinion.
 
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Yeah I was going for 'eff with', but poking sounded close enough.
 
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Mike Sams said:
Well he tried to spook Murray before Toronto and Shanghai last year and paid the price. Murray was aggressive and blew Federer off the court did he not? :lol: Federer needs to be careful with his words. P*ssing off Murray will not benefit him in a best of 3 hardcourt where Murray is the most dangerous. Just my opinion.
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Doesn't matter to Roger. He has everything to gain and nothing to lose. Murray has won plenty of times against Roger. The fact that it's never been at a slam and also that Murray is the only slam less guy in the so called Top Four means that even if murray wins the wtf next week, it won't change his aura one bit.
 
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nikdom said:
Who's going to say something to Roger though?

Novak and Nadal have clearly had a better year than Roger and don't need to trash talk to prove anything. Murray really can't say anything back because he'll have to back it up and you know how well undue pressure affects him. What interest do the others in the top 8 have in defending Murray?

So excellent mind games by Roger to spook his biggest threat at the wtf.
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They don't need to say anything to Roger. All they need to do is remind Roger of who has won most of the titles this year. Djokovic = 3 Slams and 5 Masters. Nadal = 1 Slam and 1 Master, Murray = 2 Masters, and Federer = 1 Master. Basically it's Federer who has to play catch up and he's the defending champion here. He's basically fighting just to have a chance to finish at #3. Murray is looking to bump him off. Of course Federer doesn't want to go lower down the rankings. He'll do what he can to give himself any kind of advantage.
 
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Mike Sams said:
Strange comment seeing that Federer didn't play anybody in the top 4 to win his last 2 titles.:-?
Furthermore, Murray came back from a set down to beat the guy whom Federer generally takes a big crap against. LOL! Nadal in the finals of Tokyo. That was a damn good win for Murray. Also take note it was Murray who wiped the court with Federer in Shanghai last year. 6-3, 6-2.
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Exactly. Fed is always making these arrogant kind of remarks. Never giving credit to whoever just kicked his ass and giving himself credit always.(Well I played well, its been a long season, my record is etc. etc.) I hope he gets destroyed at the WTF. I hope Mirka cries to. What a dick.
 
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nikdom said:
Doesn't matter to Roger. He has everything to gain and nothing to lose. Murray has won plenty of times against Roger. The fact that it's never been at a slam and also that Murray is the only slam less guy in the so called Top Four means that even if he wins here, it won't change his aura one bit.
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Do you really think Federer wants Murray to improve his game? It just means another massive threat to Federer's chances of winning any more Slams in his career. Federer can't even deal with Djokovic and Nadal at the Slams as it is and soon Murray will be another major rival for him there.
 
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nikdom said:
Who's going to say something to Roger though?

Novak and Nadal have clearly had a better year than Roger and don't need to trash talk to prove anything. Murray really can't say anything back because he'll have to back it up and you know how well undue pressure affects him. What interest do the others in the top 8 have in defending Murray?

So excellent mind games by Roger to spook his biggest threat at the wtf.
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Murray could point out his superior 2011 record in the majors compared to Federer's.
 
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SAFINATORZ said:
I have a feeling murray could end up meeting fed in the final and probably end up beating him.
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Murray's most feared in best of 3 hardcourts. And he's crunched Federer in numerous hardcourt finals. This isn't a Slam which means Murray is going to be a very dangerous proposition for Federer.
 
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If Murray from the Tokyo finals shows up, Federer is toast. The Super-Murray from that 3rd set who blew Nadal off the court is not a guy Federer wants to meet. That Murray is basically unplayable.:)
 
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I'm more interested in whether Federer told Wawrinka to put his friendship with Murray on ice, or if he just kept out of it altogether. I can't remember Stan once referring to his "pal Andy" since 2009. What was it Roger, WHAT DID YOU DO??
 
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Safin did it as well, saying "Andy Murray? He is a great player, a smart player and I respect him, but I don't see much hope for him (at this event). Sorry" adding that he thinks the Djoker will win it all.
But thats Safin, who knows when he actually means it and when he's just saying something to get reporters off his back :)

http://tennis.com/articles/templates/news.aspx?articleid=15135&zoneid=25

I read the OP's linked article, and while Fed did have some encouraging words for Murray saying he would win a Slam soon, the rest of it is bemusing. And there was nothing on the Djoker, now that would have been interesting.
 
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This makes about as much sense as Murray wanting more pay for a day off at the US Open. Yeah, Fed and Novak weren't in Asia, but Nadal was and Murray played him in Tokyo. Also, Murray and Nadal weren't present in Basel (although Murray and his baffling logic should have been), with Nadal also skipping Paris. Not taking anything away from Fed for winning big titles with deep fields, but come on, to say Murray's competition was any worse is just silly.

Wouldn't surprise me if Federer is just playing games with Murray. Old hat for him.
 
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So... fed didn't even put himself in a position where he needed to comeback from a set down. What does that mean that you lose a set, it doesn't mean anything. Look you just want to get your cheer for murray or you wanna bad mouth fed, and I hardly think Berdych and Tsonga are nobodys. And your last comment, yeah well federer beat him in straights in a grandslam event. In fact a few US Open and recently aussie open, so why are you making that an argument? Look you just wanna hate on certain people, can't you just get past this?


Mike Sams said:
Strange comment seeing that Federer didn't play anybody in the top 4 to win his last 2 titles.:-?
Furthermore, Murray came back from a set down to beat the guy whom Federer generally takes a big crap against. LOL! Nadal in the finals of Tokyo. That was a damn good win for Murray. Also take note it was Murray who wiped the court with Federer in Shanghai last year. 6-3, 6-2.
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Crikey, I hope Mirka doesn't spot this thread. It could make her very jealous.I don't expect she's ever thought of Andy M as THAT kind of a rival!! :shock::lol:

Seriously, Roger just loves to play mind games with Murray doesn't he? I love his opening comment, " I'm not taking anything away from what Andy did, BUT.." and then proceeds to try and take it away from him!

He's done this before. I recall he did it on the eve of their 2010 AO final. He went on and on about how difficult it must be for Murray to handle the expectations from the British press blah blah given that Britain hasn't had a slam winner 'for about a hundred thousand years' HA HA whereas he, Roger was well used to big occasions like slam finals by now etc.etc. I really hoped at the time that Murray would rub those comments in his nose but, alas, they worked only too well unfortunately.

So Roger can put a sock in it. His own recent run of good form didn't exactly involve any of the very top players did it? At least Murray beat Nadal in one of his finals! Just hope Andy's experienced enough by now with Roger's 'charming' little ways to ignore him and let his racquet do the talking!
 
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Fed <3 Trolls better than any of us, with zero time spent procstinating on the internet... mad skills.
 
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I don't like Roger because of the image his fans/the media paint of him. He's speaking truth here, but he's also being quite a dick.
 
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Mike Sams said:
Strange comment seeing that Federer didn't play anybody in the top 4 to win his last 2 titles.:-?
Furthermore, Murray came back from a set down to beat the guy whom Federer generally takes a big crap against. LOL! Nadal in the finals of Tokyo. That was a damn good win for Murray. Also take note it was Murray who wiped the court with Federer in Shanghai last year. 6-3, 6-2.
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Seems right on par to me, I don't know at what point people are going to stop being surprised by the crap that comes out of Roger's mouth and stop pretending that he is such a stand up guy.
 
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Roger just isn't a nice guy. Many examples of that. He pokes on basically everyone. Total embarrassment to the game of tennis.
 
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That's right Federer keep making fun of the guy who has won more tournaments than you and done better in majors in 2011 than you. Funny how Federer hasn't won a tournament by beating any of the top 3 all year. I'd like to see him pull that crap on Novak or Rafa.
 
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Mike Sams said:
Strange comment seeing that Federer didn't play anybody in the top 4 to win his last 2 titles.:-?
Furthermore, Murray came back from a set down to beat the guy whom Federer generally takes a big crap against. LOL! Nadal in the finals of Tokyo. That was a damn good win for Murray. Also take note it was Murray who wiped the court with Federer in Shanghai last year. 6-3, 6-2.
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I'm sure he would agree with that. How was this quote brought up too? What was the question for Federer's response?
 
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Mustard said:
Murray could point out his superior 2011 record in the majors compared to Federer's.
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Bringing up that he beat GOAT candidates Chela and Lopez in slam quarterfinals and Ferrer in a semifinal is sure to make Federer seethe with envy
 
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Mustard said:
Murray could point out his superior 2011 record in the majors compared to Federer's.
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nikdom said:
Latest comments from Roger about Murray -
"I'm not taking anything away from what Andy did, but was Asia the strongest this year?' asked Federer in the Daily Telegraph. "I'm not sure. Novak wasn't ther, I wasn't there and Rafa lost early (in shanghai)"
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Murray bagled rafa in the final set. Roger didn't have to play any of the top 3 when he was in Paris
 
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How can you guys say Murray did better at slams in 2011? At AO he got to the final sure, but Federer was closer to beating Djoker in the semi than Murray ever was. At FO, Fed got further. At Wimby, Murray got further. At USO fed was closer to getting to the final than Murray ever was. One can hardly say Murray did better at the slams.
 
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nikdom said:
Latest comments from Roger about Murray -
"I'm not taking anything away from what Andy did, but was Asia the strongest this year?' asked Federer in the Daily Telegraph. "I'm not sure. Novak wasn't ther, I wasn't there and Rafa lost early (in shanghai)"
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It's a good thing Federer won Paris by defeating the elite of tennis' elite. I know Tsonga is certainly a greater challenge than Nadal, whom Murray beat. After all, Tsonga hits the ball harder and plays in a flashier way--and therefore is better--according to TW rules.

(That being said, I'm pretty sure Federer was being facetious.)
 
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If the way Murrya lost to Berdych at Bercy is any indication of form then he is toast. He did nothing, played un-creatively for the most part and didn't hit deep enough basically for the entire match. At least if he was a truly in-control player he would have changed it up a bit to try something but really he just bent over.

Federer may not have played too many of the top cluster at Basel and Bercy either but comfortably beating Gasquet, Berdych and Tsonga is a hell of a lot more impressive than beating Roddick and losing to Berdych.
 
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cork_screw said:
So... fed didn't even put himself in a position where he needed to comeback from a set down. What does that mean that you lose a set, it doesn't mean anything. Look you just want to get your cheer for murray or you wanna bad mouth fed, and I hardly think Berdych and Tsonga are nobodys. And your last comment, yeah well federer beat him in straights in a grandslam event. In fact a few US Open and recently aussie open, so why are you making that an argument? Look you just wanna hate on certain people, can't you just get past this?
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What are you on about? I just mentioned that Murray tore apart the man who makes Federer sh*t bricks. Nadal crushed Federer many times this season. But Federer for some strange reason didn't even mention that Murray beat Nadal in Tokyo. He completely omitted the fact. That was a great win for Murray to come back from a set down to beat Nadal.
 
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Murrayfan31 said:
Roger just isn't a nice guy. Many examples of that. He pokes on basically everyone. Total embarrassment to the game of tennis.
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He'd poke on Nadal too but it's impossible for him now seeing that Nadal has smashed his hopes and dreams countless times.
 
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Bobby Jr said:
If the way Murrya lost to Berdych at Bercy is any indication of form then he is toast. He did nothing, played un-creatively for the most part and didn't hit deep enough basically for the entire match. At least if he was a truly in-control player he would have changed it up a bit to try something but really he just bent over.
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Murray hardly bent over for Berdych. He was a set up and just 2 points away from winning the match at 5-5 all in the 2nd set tie-break. He hit a good serve out wide forcing Berdych to scramble to make the return. All he then had to do was volley it into the open court, a normally bread and butter shot for him but he hit it long otherwise it would have brought up a match point. He should have won the match there and then but he didn't. But it was always close.
 
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Mainad said:
But he did. He made 1 final and 3 semis. Federer made 1 final, 2 semis and a quarter.
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Yes on paper it's true, but it hardly warrants calling 'better' going one extra round overall, especially considering Federer was closer to winning the FO slam against the clay GOAT than Murray was against 1-slam wonder (at the time) Djoker. AND that Federer was the only player to actually beat the best player in the world of 2011 when he was healthy and almost did it again at USO. Murray was nowhere close to any of that at any of the slams.
 
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Mainad said:
Murray hardly bent over for Berdych. He was a set up and just 2 points away from winning the match at 5-5 all in the 2nd set tie-break. He hit a good serve out wide forcing Berdych to scramble to make the return. All he then had to do was volley it into the open court, a normally bread and butter shot for him but he hit it long otherwise it would have brought up a match point. He should have won the match there and then but he didn't. But it was always close.
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He lost and was a poor loss for him. Fact. If he'd been more adaptable during the match he would have found a way to beat him, but he didn't. You say he almost beat Berdych - by contrast you could view that as he gave Berdych the match. That's not exactly an indicator of someone in top form.
 
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Bobby Jr said:
He lost and was a poor loss for him. Fact. If he'd been more adaptable during the match he would have found a way to beat him, but he didn't. You say he almost beat Berdych - by contrast you could view that as he gave Berdych the match. That's not exactly an indicator of someone in top form.
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Did you see the match? He didn't hand it to Berdych, he fought him every step of the way and, as I said, almost took it in the 2nd set tie-break. He made too many UEs at crucial points, some of them uncharacteristic and he paid the price. Also I think you're underrating Berdych who can be almost unbeatable when he's hitting his serves and forehands. Berdych was in top form for the Murray match and already had a slight winning H2H against him which gave him confidence. Nevertheless, the match lasted for 3 and a quarter hours so no-one was giving anything to anyone. As a consequence, Berdych was a bit of a spent force by the time he met Federer the next day unsurprisingly.
 
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