If Djoker wouldve had the same rest for the AO finals as Nadal....
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MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Lol hilarity. He wasn't anymore tired than he would have been with 50 days of rest.
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Nathaniel_Near
Guest
Lol. Djokovic would have definitely been fresher, he needed a set to get his legs going and to mug it up towards the end of set 4 just for Nadal to fall to his knees in glory and pride, after which Djokovic prolonged his agony before taking him to clutch school.
Clarky21
Banned
Exactly. Don't you have an MJ gif that you can use to describe this pathetic thread? Lol.
cknobman
Legend
Disagree, watching the match you could definitely tell in the early going that Novak was still feeling his short rest from the semis. Of course he still had plenty in the tank and once he warmed up, loosened the muscles, and had a little adrenaline pumping it was pretty much all even.
Id dont think it would have been a demolition if Novak had the same rest but Novak may have won that first set.
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Nathaniel_Near
Guest
I think that's right, actually. Novak had a hard time getting his legs moving and his shorter rest and more grueling semi certainly affected him quite negatively in the final. Despite not being in his best physical condition and playing significantly below his top form, he was able to get the job done -- albeit, he was on the ropes in the 5th. Still though, it was a wonderful triumph of heart and will and his outstanding superior mental strength in the match-up did pay some dividends in the end. It reminds me of Nadal vs Fed but Nadal is more willing to fight.
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Nathaniel_Near
Guest
LOL. You're so cool.
Clarky21
Banned
Do you also believe that Nadal was exhausted in the Madrid final in 2009 after his gruelling semi that he played the day before? I have a feeling that your tune is going to change when it comes to that match.
And FrankenCvac was not tired. If that excuse doesn't fly for Nadal,it does not fly for FrankenCvac.
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Nathaniel_Near
Guest
I would certainly have to agree, Nadal was tired after his Madrid 2009 semi and he could have certainly arrived to the final in better condition!
Nole was in a similar spot to him, Nadal put him through hell but Nole came out the other side a winner. Kudos to both warriors. Nadal needs to go back to clutch school though, preferably in Serbia.
Yours sincerely,
Captain Objective
Netzroller
Semi-Pro
Yeah, the last time Nole went very well rested into a top match he played Federer at the FO and lost. Then apparently it was he was too rested and had lost his rythm...
But now we even have to find excuses after he matches he won:lol:
Towser83
G.O.A.T.
haha well done, you showed Doomsday Cassandra Nostradamus Clarky who is so defensive so assumes everyone is biased against nadal. I also think nadal was tired in the Madrid match, although still proud that Federer did not find a way choke the match :lol:
Nadal was likely a bit tired in the AO 2009 Final as well, but playing against Federer tired is better than playing against Nadal tired like Djokovic had to, because Federer is not going to engage you in 30+ shot rallies. In Madrid nadal didn't look up for it, in Australia he knew a slam final is a different matter and that tiredness didn't effct him. Novak didn't look effected once he lost the first set and he had been warmed up and then shocked into action. From then on his mind ignored what his body was feeling, and apart from a laspse in the end of the 4th set/beginning of the 5th, he was solid. But I'm sure he was effected by the long semi a bit.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Yeah, the last time Nole went very well rested into a top match he played Federer at the FO and lost. Then apparently it was he was too rested and had lost his rythm...
But now we even have to find excuses after he matches he won:lol:
daddy federer needed a hushing after he said djoker was "unimpressive" and being lucky again.
master djoker was trying to save match points as he did against federer. we've realized that federer and nadal don't win 5 setters when they face match points.
bow down to the goat djoker....
master djoker was trying to save match points as he did against federer. we've realized that federer and nadal don't win 5 setters when they face match points.
bow down to the goat djoker....
achokshi99
Rookie
I agree, the real final was the Murray/Djoker match, I think either would have beaten Nadal. But Murray came away with a great AO and I think he's got Djoker's number soon this year.
achokshi99
Rookie
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Neither Djokovic or Nadal were tired. They both have "aids" to help them recover more quickly. Know what I mean?
DjokovicForTheWin
Banned
Quoted for truth. This is what I've been saying all along. Nadal is delusional if he thinks he's figured anything out. Fresh Djoker would have destroyed Nadal. If anything, the beating are going to be worse than 2011.
LOL, it's amazing how history repeats itself. Federer at one point says he's figured out Nadal and the beatings just got worse. The difference was Fed was no longer prime after that. Nadal is still peak it's only downhill from here.
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
That still doesn't answer why Andy took him to five. Was he tired prior to the semis? Or has Andy figured him out?
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
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celoft
Guest
Murray has the game to beat Djokovic. Just like Federer does as well. They both have the variety needed to beat Nole 2.0
merlinpinpin
Hall of Fame
I seriously doubt he was tired. He could have kept on running for 10 more hours if he needed to. However, he was very tense and played a pretty poor final (I guess he was feeling the pressure of defending his title, something he'd never done before), so yes, I think it's way too premature to say that Nadal has him figured out. Djokovic should clearly have won in straights had a not played such a dismal first set. And he choked big time in the fourth, giving Nadal his chance in the fifth (the Spaniard should have won, had he not choked away his lead, too).
Bottom line--agree with you that there is more of a gap than the score would suggest between Djokovic and Nadal, not that Djokovic was tired.
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
Well, last year AM was summarily despatched in 3. I am more suspecting that was not Nole 2.0 we saw. Anyway, the upcoming season will tell who improved and who fell back.
DjokovicForTheWin
Banned
Towser83
G.O.A.T.
Can I ask, what the hell is with all the michael jackson GIFs on tennis warehouse??
:lol:
DjokovicForTheWin
Banned
Can I ask, what the hell is with all the michael jackson GIFs on tennis warehouse??
I agree, these gifs are unrelated to tennis and should not be posted. Mods?
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
The first set in the final showed he was completely out of it. Look at his UE count in that first set and how lethargic he looked.
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
Can I ask, what the hell is with all the michael jackson GIFs on tennis warehouse??
Frankly Michael Jackson relates to everything and anything in some way!
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
Are you kidding? Thriller is Djokovic's favourite song! He even danced to it at a party.
http://youtu.be/S-T5qnm6lXM
DjokovicForTheWin
Banned
Sure but MN always posts them when he's crying and has no more arguments left in his bag.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Hilarious, nothing on here bothers me that much. I post them in any situation I feel them necessary
and you love it.Frankly Michael Jackson relates to everything and anything in some way!
Towser83
G.O.A.T.
Hilarious, nothing on here bothers me that much. I post them in any situation I feel them necessary
why MJ though, is there any relevance i'm missing, or you just like MJ?
dudeski
Hall of Fame
Anyone understood any of this?
dudeski
Hall of Fame
Can I ask, what the hell is with all the michael jackson GIFs on tennis warehouse??
They make about as much sense as adjusting water bottles or toweling off after every point.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Lol, yeah im a fan, and conveniently there's a gif for like every occasion, so it just works out.
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Clarky21
Banned
Lol, yeah im a fan, and conveniently there's a gif for like every occasion, so it just works out.
:lol:
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Towser83
G.O.A.T.
Ah ok. I think you may be reading more meaning into MJ gifs than most people, but fair enough, you are a fan
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Nathaniel_Near
Guest
I do think Nadal played a fighting match, retrieving like a madman and making Nole come up with big plays time and time again. I reckon if Nole had equal rest the match could have still been close but perhaps it would have been a 3 or 4 set victory something like, 6-4 6-1 7-6 or 6-7 6-4 6-1 6-2(to hazard a guess).
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
hey why did you quote it, i have it on ignore!
Yeah, MN we love your gifs, it's when you post some words that I am likeHilarious, nothing on here bothers me that much. I post them in any situation I feel them necessary
:evil:
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Completely agree, he was pretty out of his mind the last 10 years of his life on drugs though and I think he definitely had B.D.D (the condition). This is how I choose to remember MJ though:
imo it had nothing to do with djoko not being fresh, he just didnt bring his A game except for a brief period towards the end of the 3rd set. you just cant play your best tennis every day no matter how much you rest in between
the fact that he still won it despite that by gringind it out in a 6h match shows that fitness was deffo not what kept him from finishing it sooner
the fact that he still won it despite that by gringind it out in a 6h match shows that fitness was deffo not what kept him from finishing it sooner
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Nathaniel_Near
Guest
Completely agree, he was pretty out of his mind the last 10 years of his life on drugs though and I think he definitely had B.D.D (the condition). This is how I choose to remember MJ though:
MJ was a great man who used the most profound strict vegetarian diet in the history of fine eatery. It's the strict vegetarian diet that resulted in his fluid changing forms (paraphrasing the great man himself).
Towser83
G.O.A.T.
Is that the only post dev has posted that didn't attack Federer? wow :lol:
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Actually many sources, accounts, and friends say his favorite thing to eat in the world was KFC chicken without the skin. The vegetarian thing was a cover lol, something to add to the myth.
sbengte
G.O.A.T.
Can I ask, what the hell is with all the michael jackson GIFs on tennis warehouse??
My MJ Thriller gif was posted to indicate how thrilled I was about the AO final after having rooted for a Djokodal thriller in the final all through
(Besides I thought all true Nadal fans are expected to post MJ gifs ;-))
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