Nadal wins 3 slams on 3 different surfaces in calendar year AGAIN?

nadalwon2012 · Mar 13, 2012

Nadal is already the only man ever to win 3 slams on 3 different surfaces in a calendar year. If Nadal accomplishes this AGAIN, that would surely represent the most incredible feat in history. It would be more impressive than 16 slams (though the feat would put him at 13 slams anyway, so he would likely reach 16). The only question is whether it would be more impressive than Laver's double-calendar year grand slam, which came in an era that wasn't as deep as today (I think even Laver would admit this). Either way, another triple-surface-triple would put Nadal ahead of Federer in history.

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pvaudio · Mar 13, 2012

That would not be even remotely more impressive than 16 slams when the AO hard court is slower than the French clay...which is barely slower than the Wimbledon grass. When players say grass plays like "mowed clay" and that you have faster points on the French red clay, it's not really impressive anymore. The only impressive part is winning the three tournaments.

tennis_pro · Mar 13, 2012

Luckily you don't have to worry about it.

nadalwon2012 · Mar 13, 2012

It would also move Nadal from 102 weeks ranked number one to at least 150, maybe 200+.

nadalwon2012 · Mar 13, 2012

tennis_pro said:
Luckily you don't have to worry about it.

It wouldn't surprise anyone though. Only one player is as good/better than Nadal at the slams over the last 12 months. Murray continues to fail in slam semis, and Federer continues to be eaten up by Nadal.

Clarky21 · Mar 13, 2012

I am convinced that Bullzilla/Nadalwon/Vamospunch etc. is NOT a Nadal fan at all. I think he is a Fed or Djesus fan who trolls the mess out of this board to ramp up the already insane dislike of Nadal another notch. His act got old and tired a very long time ago.

nadalwon2012 · Mar 13, 2012

And just for the record, Nadal is off to a much better start in 2012 than 2011, with that dazzling Australian Open performance (which actually was more impressive than his 2011 Roland Garros form too).

Cup8489 · Mar 13, 2012

nadalwon2012 said:
And just for the record, Nadal is off to a much better start in 2012 than 2011, with that dazzling Australian Open performance (which actually was more impressive than his 2011 Roland Garros form too).

No.

And no to the OP.

You care to make a bet on it? If he doesn't, you and all of your various accounts leave the boards forever, and if he does I'll leave in return?

nadalwon2012 · Mar 13, 2012

Cup8489 said:
No.

And no to the OP.

You care to make a bet on it? If he doesn't, you and all of your various accounts leave the boards forever, and if he does I'll leave in return?

Various accounts of what?

And I predicted nothing anyway.

Rock Strongo · Mar 13, 2012

No. Won't happen this year. With Djokovic and the impending Ivanisevic scenario I seriously doubt it.

nadalwon2012 · Mar 13, 2012

Rock Strongo said:
No. Won't happen this year. With Djokovic and the impending Ivanisevic scenario I seriously doubt it.

I never said it would happen.

nadalwon2012 · Mar 13, 2012

I guess this hypothetical is too scary for some to even consider. This question wasn't whether he would, but rather what the implications would be.

aphex · Mar 13, 2012

Djokovic is already the only man ever to crush the nadal 6 times on 3 different surfaces in a calendar year. If Djokovic accomplishes this AGAIN, that would surely represent the most incredible feat in history. It would be more impressive than 10 slams (though the feat would put him at 8 slams anyway, so he would likely reach 10). The only question is whether it would be more impressive than the nadal's 10 slams, which came in an era that wasn't as deep as today (I think even the nadal would admit this). Either way, another triple-surface-six-love beatdown would put Djokovic ahead of the nadal in history.

FlashFlare11 · Mar 13, 2012

The way you phrased the title, you made it seem like he's already done it twice.

No, I don't think it's possible. There is one person who is consistently better than Nadal, but that doesn't rule out an early exit at Wimbledon or the US Open (which he has come close to before). At Wimbledon, a big hitter on fire can take him out, and Murray is continually getting better across all surfaces. That doesn't even account for Djokovic.

I don't understand the point of the thread, to be honest. I don't think anyone is going to think it's possible given the current landscape of the tour.

nadalwon2012 · Mar 13, 2012

aphex said:
Djokovic is already the only man ever to crush the nadal 6 times on 3 different surfaces in a calendar year.

Still, he has never beaten Nadal in a clay slam. And slams are what greatness is really measured by. Nadal won his first 5 slam meetings with Djokovic, and that included Roland Garros, Wimbledon and US Open. That's 3 slam surfaces.

FlashFlare11 · Mar 13, 2012

As for the implications, well, you're really grasping at straws, clinging to the one thing remotely significant that Nadal has done that Federer hasn't. No, it wouldn't put Nadal ahead of Federer because the surfaces aren't really that different anymore. And Nadal would have still achieved less than Federer.

nadalwon2012 · Mar 13, 2012

FlashFlare11 said:
The way you phrased the title, you made it seem like he's already done it twice.

No, I don't think it's possible. There is one person who is consistently better than Nadal, but that doesn't rule out an early exit at Wimbledon or the US Open (which he has come close to before). At Wimbledon, a big hitter on fire can take him out, and Murray is continually getting better across all surfaces. That doesn't even account for Djokovic.

I don't understand the point of the thread, to be honest. I don't think anyone is going to think it's possible given the current landscape of the tour.

Well, Nadal has already done it once. 2010, very recently. Only 2 things in the landscape have changed since then. Djokovic has beaten Nadal at 3 straight slams (on 2 different surfaces). And Nadal has beaten Murray at 3 straight slams (on 3 different surfaces, in a calendar year). It evens out.

Homeboy Hotel · Mar 13, 2012

Are you just trying to convince yourself?

Hint of desperation and/or giving yourself a sense of false security about Nadal repeating 2010.

FlashFlare11 · Mar 13, 2012

nadalwon2012 said:
Well, Nadal has already done it once. 2010, very recently. Only 2 things in the landscape have changed since then. Djokovic has beaten Nadal at 3 straight slams. And Nadal has beaten Murray at 3 straight slams. It evens out.

Murray the played very well in Australia. You can account that to Djokovic not playing well if you want, but I think Murray is going to surprise a lot of people this year.

aphex · Mar 13, 2012

nadalwon2012 said:
Well, Nadal has already done it once. 2010, very recently. Only 2 things in the landscape have changed since then. Djokovic has beaten Nadal at 3 straight slams (on 2 different surfaces). And Nadal has beaten Murray at 3 straight slams (on 3 different surfaces, in a calendar year). It evens out.

At least, we can always count on the constancy of your dimwitedness.

nadalwon2012 · Mar 13, 2012

Homeboy Hotel said:
Are you just trying to convince yourself?

Hint of desperation and/or giving yourself a sense of false security about Nadal repeating 2010.

It's called a hypothetical. No need to get so defensive. You seem to fear it, even though I never even said it would happen. Strange that.

Clarky21 · Mar 13, 2012

nadalwon2012 said:
Still, he has never beaten Nadal in a clay slam. And slams are what greatness is really measured by. Nadal won his first 5 slam meetings with Djokovic, and that included Roland Garros, Wimbledon and US Open. That's 3 slam surfaces.

Just wait until RG this year should Nadal make the final. He will lose to Djesus again just like he has over the past year. Nadal is incapable of beating Djesus. Everyone knows it except for you.

Wilander Fan · Mar 13, 2012

I am pretty sure Wilander did this in 88. Grass at AO, clay at RG and HC at USO.

jones101 · Mar 13, 2012

Nadal has as much chance of that this year with Djokovic's emergence as Sharapova has of hitting a conventional winning volley in a match - ITS NOT GONNA HAPPEN!

celoft · Mar 13, 2012

No.

IF and that is a big IF... he wins a slam this year it will be only Roland Garros.

If the Spaniard loses at RG, he will go slamless this year.

He will only win RGs from now on or just plain nothing.

jackson vile · Mar 13, 2012

Let the flame wars begin!

This is as likely as Federer making it to #2

nadalwon2012 said:
Nadal is already the only man ever to win 3 slam on 3 different surfaces in a calendar year. If Nadal accomplishes this AGAIN, that would surely represent the most incredible feat in history. It would be more impressive than 16 slams (though the feat would put him at 13 slams anyway, so he would likely reach 16). The only question is whether it would be more impressive than Laver's double-calendar year grand slam, which came in an era that wasn't as deep as today (I think even Laver would admit this). Either way, another triple-surface-triple would put Nadal ahead of Federer in history.

Rock Strongo · Mar 13, 2012

nadalwon2012 said:
I never said it would happen.

I answered your title

jones101 · Mar 13, 2012

Wilander Fan said:
I am pretty sure Wilander did this in 88. Grass at AO, clay at RG and HC at USO.

I think he did too,

but VamosFire I think was referring to 3 different slams of different surfaces consecutively, but thanks for ripping him a new one.

Very Observant

Carsomyr · Mar 13, 2012

1988 was the first year that the Australian Open was played on Rebound Ace.

celoft · Mar 13, 2012

nadalwon2012 said:
Still, he has never beaten Nadal in a clay slam. And slams are what greatness is really measured by. Nadal won his first 5 slam meetings with Djokovic, and that included Roland Garros, Wimbledon and US Open. That's 3 slam surfaces.

If he beats Nadal at RG, it's game over for the Spaniard.

DjokovicForTheWin · Mar 13, 2012

If Nadalwon2012 is truly a Fed fan in disguise then hats off to him, it's quite a job keeping a facade for that long with so much annoying effort.

nadalwon2012 · Mar 13, 2012

Wilander Fan said:
I am pretty sure Wilander did this in 88. Grass at AO, clay at RG and HC at USO.

The 1988 Australian Open was on rebound ace (hard court).
The 1988 French Open was on red clay (clay).
The 1988 US Open was on deco-turf (hard court).

nadalwon2012 · Mar 13, 2012

DjokovicForTheWin said:
If Nadalwon2012 is truly a Fed fan in disguise then hats off to him, it's quite a job keeping a facade for that long with so much annoying effort.

I hope Nadal and Federer meet at Wimbledon, so Nadal can even the grass h2h at 2-2.

FlashFlare11 · Mar 13, 2012

nadalwon2012 said:
It has been about 8 years since I last saw Federer play, apart from his matches vs Nadal which I obviously watch. Federer has become the only player I hate to see (or hear of) win.

Then I suggest you leave any threads about Federer or his matches alone, since you obviously have nothing to offer in those threads but trolling.

*Glad I quoted that before you deleted your post.

nadalwon2012 · Mar 13, 2012

FlashFlare11 said:
Then I suggest you leave any threads about Federer or his matches alone, since you obviously have nothing to offer in those threads but trolling.

I actually edited that post, because its not true. I have seen Federer play, a lot on tv. Just never in attendance. I've seen every Federer slam semi/slam final, ever played (on tv).

Limpinhitter · Mar 13, 2012

tennis_pro said:
Luckily you don't have to worry about it.

Hahaha! Bingo! I like Nadal's game. But, it seems the other top pros are adjusting and are now able to exploit his deep backcourt positioning.

nadalwon2012 · Mar 13, 2012

Limpinhitter said:
Hahaha! Bingo! I like Nadal's game. But, it seems the other top pros are adjusting and are now able to exploit his deep backcourt positioning.

Hahaha! Nadal has just made 4 straight slam finals for the first time in his career (and SEVEN of the last EIGHT). His ownership over the top pros has never been greater.

Nadal beat Murray at their last 4 slam encounters (2010 Wimbledon, 2011 Roland Garros, 2011 Wimbledon, 2011 US Open) and has beaten Federer in their last 5 slam encounters (2008 Roland Garros, 2008 Wimbledon, 2009 Australian Open, 2011 Roland Garros, 2012 Australian Open)....

All that is left is Djokovic. Only one player separates Nadal from winning every slam over the next couple of years (as Nadal looks even stronger now than 2011).

Limpinhitter · Mar 13, 2012

nadalwon2012 said:
Hahaha! Nadal has just made 4 straight slam finals for the first time in his career (and SEVEN of the last EIGHT). His ownership over the top pros has never been greater.

Nadal beat Murray at their last 4 slam encounters (2010 Wimbledon, 2011 Roland Garros, 2011 Wimbledon, 2011 US Open) and has been Federer in their last 4 slam encounters (2008 Roland Garros, 2008 Wimbledon, 2009 Australian Open, 2012 Australian Open) too....

All that is left is Djokovic. Only one player separates Nadal from winning every slam over the next couple of years (as Nadal looks even stronger now than 2011).

Unfortunately, Djokovic is at his peak and Nadal is past his peak. If Ralph learns to play from the baseline and hit on the rise, he's got a chance to regain #1. 3 majors in one year? The odds are too remote to even think about. Let him win 1 major this year before you start talkin' that kind of smack.

Limpinhitter · Mar 13, 2012

nadalwon2012 said:
I hope Nadal and Federer meet at Wimbledon, so Nadal can even the grass h2h at 2-2.

I hope so too! But, he'll probably get another beating in the final anyway.

nadalwon2012 · Mar 13, 2012

Limpinhitter said:
Unfortunately, Djokovic is at his peak and Nadal is past his peak. If Ralph learns to play from the baseline and hit on the rise, he's got a chance to regain #1. 3 majors in one year? The odds are too remote to even think about. Let him win 1 major this year before you start talkin' that kind of smack.

Don't you worry about that, Djokovic needed 6 hours and was down 4-2 to Nadal in the 5th set on Djokovic's favorite slam surface. The tide is seriously turning.

Limpinhitter · Mar 13, 2012

nadalwon2012 said:
Don't you worry about that, Djokovic needed 6 hours and was down 4-2 to Nadal in the 5th set on Djokovic's favorite slam surface. The tide is seriously turning.

'**** on my man. But, I don't think you're being realistic!

nadalwon2012 · Mar 13, 2012

Limpinhitter said:
'**** on my man. But, I don't think you're being realistic!

Well, I saw the Australian Open final. Guess you didn't....

Limpinhitter · Mar 13, 2012

nadalwon2012 said:
Well, I saw the Australian Open final. Guess you didn't....

You're talking about the 2012 AO? Yeah, I saw Djokovic playing at a lower level than he did in the preceeding W and USO, beat Nadal who gave everything he had. The only matches I've seen Nadal play better were the 2008 FO final and 2010 USO final. For Nadal to beat Djoko, he has to play from, or closer to, the baseline. Unless Djoko has an injury, it's that simple.

nadalwon2012 · Mar 13, 2012

Limpinhitter said:
You're talking about the 2012 AO? Yeah, I saw Djokovic playing at a lower level than he did in the preceeding W and USO, beat Nadal who gave everything he had. The only matches I've seen Nadal play better were the 2008 FO final and 2010 USO final. For Nadal to beat Djoko, he has to play from, or closer to, the baseline. Unless Djoko has an injury, it's that simple.

Well, you just saw Nadal take a 4-2 lead in the 5th set on Djokovic's best slam surface. You know Nadal can do that now. So do you know Djokovic will win every time he's down 4-2 in the 5th set?

nadalwon2012 · Mar 13, 2012

BTW, Nadal played far from perfect in the AO 12 final. That's why everyone keeps talking about the crucial missed wide-open backhand when he was serving for a 5-2 lead.

Towser83 · Mar 13, 2012

eh, if you're going to compare eras and say Laver's was less impressive, then let's compare what Federer had to deal with. Nadal on clay. Nadal is the clay GOAT yes? Without whom, Federer would have 2 back to back calendar slams. Who does Nadal have to stop him at Wimbledon? Djokovic who never made a wimbledon final or won a grass title before last year? He is rated as being average on grass, it's his worst surface. Even at the US Open, Djokovic has to battle to save match points against old man Federer. Thus if we must downgrade laver's achievements, we must do the same for Nadal. Pity he never did the 3 surface slam when Federer was a force on grass and Hardcourt.

Limpinhitter · Mar 13, 2012

nadalwon2012 said:
Well, you just saw Nadal take a 4-2 lead in the 5th set on Djokovic's best slam surface. You know Nadal can do that now. So do you know Djokovic will win every time he's down 4-2 in the 5th set?

Yes, Nadal can get a lead against Djokovic but can't hold it. Very good.

nadalwon2012 · Mar 13, 2012

Limpinhitter said:
Yes, Nadal can get a lead against Djokovic but can't hold it. Very good.

Well of the 3 slam finals Nadal has lost to Djokovic, Nadal has only had ONE lead. He lost the first 2 sets at Wimbledon, lost the first 2 sets at US Open. So we don't have a lot to go by as far as converting/not converting leads go. Fact is, the tide is turning. Djokovic has no more room left.

Deleted member 21996 · Mar 13, 2012

nadalwon2012 said:
Well, you just saw Nadal take a 4-2 lead in the 5th set on crippled Djokovic's best slam surface and still get shafted

i agree...

Vamos

Tony48 · Mar 13, 2012

nadalwon2012 said:
Well of the 3 slam finals Nadal has lost to Djokovic, Nadal has only had ONE lead. He lost the first 2 sets at Wimbledon, lost the first 2 sets at US Open. So we don't have a lot to go by as far as converting/not converting leads go. Fact is, the tide is turning. Djokovic has no more room left.

Yes, and that tide started almost a year ago in the Indian Wells final

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