PV Audio's Playtest Thread

pvaudio · Apr 7, 2012

There is. The original big banger doesn't have anything special about it while ALU does.

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Lux...ough_16L_String/descpageACWILSON-ALUPR16.html

vs.

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Luxilon_Big_Banger_Rough_16_String/descpageACWILSON-BBR16.html

kiteboard · Apr 7, 2012

bbo is more powerful, while alu power has more control, and loses tension faster, due to the snap back effect wearing off fast as the teflon coating rubs off quickly.

rdis10093 · Apr 7, 2012

thanks gents

pvaudio · Apr 7, 2012

Do not like Silverstring/OGSM. It truly seems as though the spin potential is less than just syn gut and I'm not sure why. The Baseline/OGSM had worlds more spin. It also doesn't have the crisp feeling that I'm looking for. I think I'm going to stick with my prior favorite for the year then (until baseline comes out and I can use that until I leave): Tornado/Xcel FO. I loved that setup. It's not neutral, but it's got the crisp response I'm looking for.

Wikky · Apr 8, 2012

Whats your favorite cost/performance set up so far? Just interested if you thought that one of the lower price point polys played significantly better than you thought it would.

pvaudio · Apr 8, 2012

^^^ Baseline/OGSM by 182748739 country miles.

bigmalik76 · Apr 8, 2012

Wikky said:
Whats your favorite cost/performance set up so far? Just interested if you thought that one of the lower price point polys played significantly better than you thought it would.

For me its Blackout/Forten sweet 17g excellent cost performance

Up&comer · Apr 8, 2012

Do you have plans to test out mantis power poly?

pvaudio · Apr 8, 2012

I sir do not have any!

mixedmedia · Apr 8, 2012

Might you make some?

Up&comer · Apr 8, 2012

pvaudio said:
I sir do not have any!

So you plan to buy some, right

?

TLy963 · Apr 8, 2012

can anyone comment on tension stability and playability of pro's pro strings like vendetta, blackout, plus power, or concept

anything is much appreciated, thanks

pvaudio · Apr 9, 2012

You should do a search, there is already a huge Pros Pro thread. Either that or contact BigT since he's an authorized vendor.

ManuGinobili · Apr 10, 2012

TLy963 said:
can anyone comment on tension stability and playability of pro's pro strings like vendetta, blackout, plus power, or concept

anything is much appreciated, thanks

there are reviews on stringforum can can be beneficial

finalfantasy7 · Apr 10, 2012

just wondering anyone know when luxilon 4g string, will come out

TexasTennisbum · Apr 12, 2012

Help for the string ignorant

Hello string experts...
I need options:

4.5 player serve/volley, loopy forehand with heavy topspin, 1hbh, settled on Prestige Pro IG

1. The PP I purchased off of **** had Babolat Pro Hurricane 16 full bed at something like 60 pounds. This was too tight for me and was sneaking up on my tennis elbow at times. It was like a wooden plank at times.

2. I then, per the advice of a tennis shop strung it with a full bed of Luxilon ALU Power Big Banger Fluoro 17 at 50 pounds. I played with it for four hours yesterday, had mild elbow tinge, nothing too bad. I didn't get much more of a pop over the PH setup mentioned in 1, which surprised me. I got an increase in topspin forehand and lefty spin on the serve, maybe 25% more.

I don't think I am sacrificing anything that great if I move away from these setups to remove the risk of significantly damaging my elbow.

Whoever reads this thread or the OP certainly know strings, what am I missing, what should I try next if anything?

bigmalik76 · Apr 12, 2012

TLy963 said:
can anyone comment on tension stability and playability of pro's pro strings like vendetta, blackout, plus power, or concept

anything is much appreciated, thanks

I just got done Testing some Pro's Pro strings and will try another round by the end of this month. I will be posting some reviews soon. I have tried Blackout, Vendetta, Hexaspin, and Gutex Ultra all 17g. All the polys as hybrid with Forten sweet 17g as Cross. the Multi as a full bed. For me playability was good for all the strings other than Hexaspin which for me was just too muted and had no feel. I will have more detail in the reviews.

bigmalik76 · Apr 12, 2012

TexasTennisbum said:
Hello string experts...
I need options:

4.5 player serve/volley, loopy forehand with heavy topspin, 1hbh, settled on Prestige Pro IG

1. The PP I purchased off of **** had Babolat Pro Hurricane 16 full bed at something like 60 pounds. This was too tight for me and was sneaking up on my tennis elbow at times. It was like a wooden plank at times.

2. I then, per the advice of a tennis shop strung it with a full bed of Luxilon ALU Power Big Banger Fluoro 17 at 50 pounds. I played with it for four hours yesterday, had mild elbow tinge, nothing too bad. I didn't get much more of a pop over the PH setup mentioned in 1, which surprised me. I got an increase in topspin forehand and lefty spin on the serve, maybe 25% more.

I don't think I am sacrificing anything that great if I move away from these setups to remove the risk of significantly damaging my elbow.

Whoever reads this thread or the OP certainly know strings, what am I missing, what should I try next if anything?

Try Multi's read Mikeler's Multi thread for recommendations. Your elbow will thank you

rdis10093 · Apr 12, 2012

just got back from club. I played the full bed of that stupid black string. I hate it so much. If syn gut is neutral, then that stuff is negative. I would be perfectly happy to play with a full bed of syn gut, but not this crap. It just takes so much work to get anything out of it. You really have to work for every single shot. Worst tennis string in the world. I don't even know why it is made.

pvaudio · Apr 12, 2012

rdis10093 said:
just got back from club. I played the full bed of that stupid black string. I hate it so much. If syn gut is neutral, then that stuff is negative. I would be perfectly happy to play with a full bed of syn gut, but not this crap. It just takes so much work to get anything out of it. You really have to work for every single shot. Worst tennis string in the world. I don't even know why it is made.

LOL my man, bring me your sticks and I'll redo them. I told you it's atrocious, did I not? For those wondering, he's talking about Forten Nylon 15L. :lol:

pvaudio · Apr 12, 2012

I don't remember stringing any Forten recently though, did you get that done at home on spring break?

rdis10093 · Apr 12, 2012

actually you did it, It even has your sticker on. It was a more than a month ago, but I had not hit with it yet, and I was like semi fresh strings, why not? Nope I was wrong, I will take dead strings over that forten any time.

pvaudio · Apr 12, 2012

Wow, that was a long time ago then. I just looked in my records, and the last time I strung for you was 01/25/2012. That was the Adrenaline Rough/Yonex 850.

rdis10093 · Apr 12, 2012

not sure about that, one of the stickers says 3/8, but anyway I just don’t understand, on the reel is says competition nylon. No pro would use this. Also nylon is the same stuff prince syn gut is made out of, so why is it not even close to playing like syn gut?

pvaudio · Apr 12, 2012

Aha! You are correct. Looked at the wrong info form. Either way, yes, it's nylon, but all string is not made equal! Just about all premium multifilaments are made of nylon in some shape or form as well. Why Forten Nylon is so atrocious, I don't know, but it is pretty much the best string to learn to string with.

rdis10093 · Apr 12, 2012

yeah, I am trying to scrounge up some money to get some new strings. I can't get the cheap lux stuff untill I get back home. I'll text you when I need help with the labor part. Also on tennis warehouse I noticed that they have a string called big hitter silver rough. Is this anything like alu rough? Also you find out which days if at all you can hit?

alidisperanza · Apr 12, 2012

pvaudio said:
LOL my man, bring me your sticks and I'll redo them. I told you it's atrocious, did I not? For those wondering, he's talking about Forten Nylon 15L. :lol:

I'd rather string with twine...Atrocious indeed

pvaudio · Apr 12, 2012

rdis10093 said:
yeah, I am trying to scrounge up some money to get some new strings. I can't get the cheap lux stuff untill I get back home. I'll text you when I need help with the labor part. Also on tennis warehouse I noticed that they have a string called big hitter silver rough. Is this anything like alu rough? Also you find out which days if at all you can hit?

I have big hitter silver rough if you want to try it. And nope, it's nothing like ALU.

Given your new avatar, do you like Huey Lewis and the News?

pvaudio · Apr 12, 2012

Gosh that is one of my all time favorite movies. The subtle off-white coloring. The tasteful thickness of it. Oh my god, it even has a watermark. If you guys don't know what I'm talking about, I'm just returning some videotapes.

rdis10093 · Apr 13, 2012

I pray you have read the book, the movie doesn't do it justice, but still a great movie in its own right

pvaudio · Apr 13, 2012

Fun fact: in Australia, you cannot buy the book unless you are over the age of 18, and it's only fit for sale if it's shrink-wrapped so that people can't thumb through it in the store lol

Smasher08 · Apr 13, 2012

bigmalik76 said:
I just got done Testing some Pro's Pro strings and will try another round by the end of this month. I will be posting some reviews soon. I have tried Blackout, Vendetta, Hexaspin, and Gutex Ultra all 17g. All the polys as hybrid with Forten sweet 17g as Cross. the Multi as a full bed. For me playability was good for all the strings other than Hexaspin which for me was just too muted and had no feel. I will have more detail in the reviews.

Nice. I've just had some black force and ichiban arrive -- looking forward to the test drive.

rdis10093 · Apr 13, 2012

have you read any of his other books? The man is a good author though, the first time I read AP I almost got sick, but I read the whole thing in one day.

Up&comer · Apr 13, 2012

It really is an interesting book to read.

rising · Apr 13, 2012

Has anybody here tried pro supex platinum string?

pvaudio · Apr 13, 2012

Cannot say that I have!

I'm not sure I'm going to even finish the Silverstring/OGSM review. It's not what I'm looking for. The 18g OGSM is not the one to go for, and that's obvious.

CRWV · Apr 16, 2012

You mentioned that you test the full bed for every poly you use in a hybrid, would you mind writing up a review for a few of those (doesn't need to be as detailed as the big'uns).

I'm specifically looking for a full bed review of Scorpion, B5E, and silverstring.

pvaudio · Apr 17, 2012

Unfortunately I cannot and don't have the time at the moment to find it, but I believe mixedmedia asked me that same question. The answer is in this thread if you use the "search in thread" feature

CRWV · Apr 17, 2012

No big deal, I'm in college too (grad school), so I understand.

alidisperanza · Apr 18, 2012

CRWV said:
You mentioned that you test the full bed for every poly you use in a hybrid, would you mind writing up a review for a few of those (doesn't need to be as detailed as the big'uns).

I'm specifically looking for a full bed review of Scorpion, B5E, and silverstring.

I can give you a quick rundown of 2/3

B5E:

If I had to pick one adjective to describe this string, it would simply be "control." The string is literally designed with the power player in mind that needs a string that can temper either a lively racquet or a lively arm. Spin is good if you use proper technique but it's not going to be anything ridiculous. What you'll find is that the spin is more appropriate for keeping the ball in play as opposed to making it jump off the court. Tension stability for this string is another forte. Most of the WC strings have very positive reviews in this aspect. Power is going to be pretty low for this string: definitely lower than SilverString

SilverString:
For the longest time this was my go-to poly. It combines a nice set of characteristics that plays stable for the life of the string. Fairly low powered, SS is a control poly as well. Personally, I thought that I got more spin/ better strokes out of the silverstring than the B5E but that's just me. You'll notice a bit more pop than B5E. What I really like about the silverstring is that it gives consistent results. You get what you put in to your shots and it's reliable. My favorite combination for this string is natural gut/ss since it perfectly tempers the extra power of the gut. If SS were a touch more spin friendly, this would probably still be my go-to. Again, consistency is going to be the forte of this string but I'd say more in the playability of the stringbed and the consistency of stroke production.

polytheist · Apr 18, 2012

alidisperanza said:
If SS were a touch more spin friendly, this would probably still be my go-to.

Amen. SS is almost perfect for power and feel, but there is no free poly spin. As others have indicated, it's a very "honest" poly. If i was a flatter hitter, this would be the grail.

polytheist · Apr 18, 2012

I need CoFocus, SS, and Scorpion to do a menage-a-trois and give me the perfect poly.

CRWV · Apr 18, 2012

I can give you a quick rundown of 2/3...

thank you!

anyone mind giving a brief rundown of Scorpion and/or co-focus in full beds?

RetroSpin · Apr 19, 2012

CRWV said:
thank you!

anyone mind giving a brief rundown of Scorpion and/or co-focus in full beds?

I tried scorpion in a fullbed. Dunlop 4D200T at 45. I liked it, but it wasn't magical in any particular way. Good spin, controllable, decent power on serve. Pretty comfortable. Held tension pretty well.

I also tried B5E and BHBR. I concur with the opinion a few posts above about B5E. My experience totally. Very controllable but not the string for ripping winners from all over the court unless you are a real animal.

I loved the BHBR. Maybe I was just on the days I used it, but I found it a sublime blend of power and spin. Seemed to go dead quicker than the B5E though.

mikeler · Apr 19, 2012

RetroSpin said:
I tried scorpion in a fullbed. Dunlop 4D200T at 45. I liked it, but it wasn't magical in any particular way. Good spin, controllable, decent power on serve. Pretty comfortable. Held tension pretty well.

I also tried B5E and BHBR. I concur with the opinion a few posts above about B5E. My experience totally. Very controllable but not the string for ripping winners from all over the court unless you are a real animal.

I loved the BHBR. Maybe I was just on the days I used it, but I found it a sublime blend of power and spin. Seemed to go dead quicker than the B5E though.

I guess I'm a real animal then. Sidenote, it was only B5E mains...

rdis10093 · Apr 19, 2012

checked my exam schedule first saturday final in my life. woe is me. anyway, are you going to the tennis social tonight?

rdis10093 · Apr 19, 2012

Up&comer said:
It really is an interesting book to read.

I dont think I have ever heard someone say Bret Easton Ellis' books are "interesting" to read.

Up&comer · Apr 19, 2012

rdis10093 said:
I dont think I have ever heard someone say Bret Easton Ellis' books are "interesting" to read.

I think it's interesting how he talked about how, especially AP, was to show what he was feeling in his life at the time. He talked about how he felt like he was Bateman.

pvaudio · Apr 19, 2012

Hit with the PPA for about 45mins today. I guess this setup has 3 playing hours on it by this point, and about the same for the silverstring. The difference is truly startling. I was working on my BH, and shots going into the net with the SS were landing seriously 1/3 past the service line aka perfect rally depth with the BHB7/PPA. To those who've used it, does PPA fray? It's looking nice and white like Thunderblast, but it doesn't seem to be fraying

Ramon · Apr 19, 2012

pvaudio said:
Hit with the PPA for about 45mins today. I guess this setup has 3 playing hours on it by this point, and about the same for the silverstring. The difference is truly startling. I was working on my BH, and shots going into the net with the SS were landing seriously 1/3 past the service line aka perfect rally depth with the BHB7/PPA. To those who've used it, does PPA fray? It's looking nice and white like Thunderblast, but it doesn't seem to be fraying

PPA isn't immune from fraying, but it's definitely highly resistant to fraying for a multi. If you do see fraying it's micro-fraying like RIP Control. It eventually wears down till it''s paper thin and then it snaps. It doesn't move much and it notches, which seems to lock it in place. In terms of durability, it's up there next to RIP Control. I never tried Thunderblast, but I know that the black dye on black PPA seems to act similarly to what Mikeler described about Thunderblast. It comes off and you can see where you've been hitting the ball, and the string appears white underneath.

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