iPhone 5 or Samsung Galaxy s3?
- Thread starter quest01
- Start date
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
You just saying that to be sarcastic. Iphone 5 is tiny in comparison to other smartphones. Small screen is really annoying. Look at Galaxy S3 then look at Iphone 5, it is like " ohhhhhhh, i hate this small screen" Why didn't apple make this bigger ? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
They do. They are called home computers, which I wouldn't want to carry around in my pocket. Too heavy and bulky.
Feña14
G.O.A.T.
To be fair, the S3 is 7 grams lighter than the 4s
I've not had a problem with either in my pocket, but maybe I don't notice it as much as I prefer the bigger screen.
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
To be fair, the S3 is 7 grams lighter than the 4s
I've not had a problem with either in my pocket, but maybe I don't notice it as much as I prefer the bigger screen.
Not knocking the S3. While we were at the store and she was having her phone set up, I was toying around with the S3. Very impressive, and the screen is simply awesome. That said, the Iphone ( I have a 4 and haven't decided if I'm going to upgrade), simply put, feels and works for me, much easier and smoother. Still, I would say I'm still in the market and open to looking at other phones.
monkey-ranch
Banned
Galaxy III all the way. Im an android guy, the way it works for me is great, I only,had to upgrade OS and thats it. The hardware in general still works perfect and its been 2 years with the same phone. iOS doesnt have what Im looking for/what I need. Nothing against iphones, they are great phones but they simply dont work for me.
Tennisguy3000
Semi-Pro
I use the Tom Tom app for directions on my iPhone... much better & I don't need another GPS in my car ;-)
Feña14
G.O.A.T.
Yeah, I was an iPhone 4 user myself and I was a big fan of the build quality, finish and of iOS in general. Having just started using Android it's a nice feeling to come across things I don't like, and be able to change them. iOS is nearly perfect but not everyone wants their phone to work in exactly the same way.
I've mentioned about the lack of timestamps on messages, no times and dates for photos etc.. just simple little tweaks like that for me would of meant I wouldn't of had to look for alternatives. So far with the S3 i've totally changed the look of it, custom icons, a few widgets and the like. I wasn't a fan of the standard keyboard so just downloaded one from the market place and it's fantastic. The apps and widgets on the lockscreen mean you don't even need to unlock your phone to get what you need.
It's just things like that where you can make it your phone that i'm enjoying.
Eh? What do you mean no time stamps? Genuine question as I'm not AV iPhone user.
Sid_Vicious
G.O.A.T.
Fena is talking about the lack of time stamps on messages. On most phones, the date and time of the message is reported with every text. On the Iphone, if you sent or received a text from someone after a significant time period (ex. a few hours), a time stamp shows up next the text. Now, if you continue texting this person back and forth for the next 2 hours, none of the messages will have a time stamp.
Additionally, the Iphone does not show basic information about the pictures and videos you took. Unless you upload the photos to your computer, there is no way to look at the time and date that a picture in your photo album was taken.
DRII
G.O.A.T.
Feña14
G.O.A.T.
Sid is correct yeah. Just tiny little things that some people don't care about, but others can't really live without.
Earlier in the thread I mentioned about working in the legal profession. Employers use records of text messages in files about meetings, and they are also used in court for cases about abuse, stalking etc.. Messages that are just there without a time and a date to place them into context are worthless.
Pictures are the same, I can be looking at photo's from a birthday a year or so ago. If I wanted to look at the date to work out which friends party it was, well, I can't.
I understand they want to leave it plain as standard, but I see it as a bit of a lack of respect to the user to not let them make tiny changes like that.
soyizgood
G.O.A.T.
15 million views on the Samsung S3 ad. The amount of venom between Android and Apple fans over their phones is hilarious.
I wonder if the S3 will perform better with a Jellybean update. Strange that the European version came with a quad-core processor while the US version is on a dual-core. Then again, the US version has a couple extra features.
Maybe the S3 success will get the phone carriers off their butts to rolling out OS updates faster. Because all this talk about Android 4 and yet very few Android phones have that OS installed. Yeah you can root, but just like with Linux most users don't want to go that route.
Motorola isn't going to upgrade my Atrix 2 from Gingerbread, I'm pretty sure. I might wait until the of the year for a phone.
I wonder if the S3 will perform better with a Jellybean update. Strange that the European version came with a quad-core processor while the US version is on a dual-core. Then again, the US version has a couple extra features.
Maybe the S3 success will get the phone carriers off their butts to rolling out OS updates faster. Because all this talk about Android 4 and yet very few Android phones have that OS installed. Yeah you can root, but just like with Linux most users don't want to go that route.
Motorola isn't going to upgrade my Atrix 2 from Gingerbread, I'm pretty sure. I might wait until the of the year for a phone.
Feña14
G.O.A.T.
Yeah i'm not sure what the reasoning behind the quad core is. I have the International with it and it's very fast. The only major difference I think is that we don't have 4G on it (although we don't have 4G networks anyway so it's not really a problem
).The following post is UK specific.
I was reading this article from the Times and it was saying that if you buy an iPhone5 now, you will not be able to use 4G on it through Vodafone or O2 in future as the iPhone5s that are sold now are designed to operate on specific 4G frequency which will not be used by O2/Vodafone in future once they get/roll out their 4G services. It seems that you will need a specific (yet to be released) 4G iPhone specifically tailored to the O2/Vodafone network.
Make of that what you will.
CONSUMERS rushing to buy an Apple iPhone 5 are being urged to avoid contracts with Vodafone and O2 if they want to take advantage of the next generation of the super-fast mobile internet services.
The phone went on sale on Friday, but Vodafone and O2 customers will not be able to access 4G mobile internet — one of the device’s key new features.
The 4G network is being launched in Britain in stages over the next 12 months. It promises internet speeds that are more than twice as fast as the current 3G network, allowing customers to download films and music as if they were using broadband at home.
Customers with Orange and T-Mobile — part of Everything Everywhere (EE) — will have access to 4G services before the end of the year via the iPhone 5. Customers with 3 will have access to 4G through the new iPhone, but not until 2013.
No other provider will be able to offer 4G with the new iPhone — even after they launch their own 4G services next year — due to the radio frequency used by the handset to receive and transmit 4G signals.
However, analysts warn that millions of Vodafone and O2 customers may think they will be able to use 4G services on the iPhone. Kate Murphy at moneysupermarket.com, the comparison site, said: “Consumers must be aware that not all networks are able to support the 4G capability of the iPhone 5 handset.”
When will 4G be available?
EE says it will offer 4G services in 16 cities by Christmas. These are London, Edinburgh, Cardiff, Birmingham, Bristol, Belfast, Glasgow, Manchester, Hull, Leeds, Liverpool, Derby, Nottingham, Newcastle, Sheffield and Southampton.
Other providers, such as Vodafone and O2, will have to wait. This is because Ofcom, the regulator, has allowed EE to launch its service before its rivals. The 4G auction for other providers will take place before the end of the year.
How do I access 4G if I am with Orange or T-mobile?
Customers will be able to cancel their existing contract and transfer to a new deal with EE. If they go for an equivalent or more expensive tariff there will be no cancellation charge. However, it is likely you will have to lock in for another 24 months. Details of the EE tariffs are yet to be released.
Why can’t I get 4G with O2 or Vodafone?
The iPhone 5 has been designed to receive 4G at a frequency of 1,800Mhz only. This frequency is owned by Orange and T-Mobile.
Other providers have some access to it because European Union competition rules required EE to sell part of it to rivals when T-Mobile and Orange merged to form the new company.
The majority of this was sold to 3. Vodafone and O2 have too small a portion to make it worthwhile offering it to their customers.
O2 said: “As we have so little of that spectrum, it would not have much of an impact on customers’ experiences.” Vodafone said: “The current version of the iPhone will not operate on our 4G network.”
New 4G frequencies will be auctioned later this year, but while 4G-capable phones such as the Samsung Galaxy S3 and the new Nokia Lumia 900 will use these frequencies, the iPhone 5 will not. Later versions of the iPhone are expected to offer 4G through more frequencies. Apple declined to comment.
Can I switch providers?
If you have signed up to a Vodafone or O2 contract, but want to switch, you can do so within seven days of receiving your new handset, without having to pay a cancellation fee. Otherwise you will have to buy out your contract.
What about 3?
This network gained the lion’s share of the 1,800Mhz frequency that was divested by EE. However, EE does not have to release this frequency until September 2013. It means 3 customers may have to wait until then to access 4G on their iPhones.
What are the best deals?
The cheapest tariffs are with O2, 3 and Vodafone, according to Moneysupermarket.
The cheapest deal costs £26 a month for 24 months with O2. You get unlimited calls and texts and 1GB of data downloads a month. There is also a one off charge of £249 for the handset.
The cheapest deal allowing 4G this year is from Orange, costing £36 a month. It’s for 24 months and has a one-off fee of £109.
Case study: No signal
Carly Parsons, 25, a trainee solicitor, is disappointed she will not be able to access the 4G network on the iPhone 5 with O2, and may switch to Orange or T-Mobile.
She said: “It was not clear to me that even after O2 launches its 4G service next year, iPhone 5 customers would not have access.” Parsons is pictured with her boyfriend Stephen Kilshaw, 25. They live in Ladbroke Grove, west London.
I was reading this article from the Times and it was saying that if you buy an iPhone5 now, you will not be able to use 4G on it through Vodafone or O2 in future as the iPhone5s that are sold now are designed to operate on specific 4G frequency which will not be used by O2/Vodafone in future once they get/roll out their 4G services. It seems that you will need a specific (yet to be released) 4G iPhone specifically tailored to the O2/Vodafone network.
Make of that what you will.
CONSUMERS rushing to buy an Apple iPhone 5 are being urged to avoid contracts with Vodafone and O2 if they want to take advantage of the next generation of the super-fast mobile internet services.
The phone went on sale on Friday, but Vodafone and O2 customers will not be able to access 4G mobile internet — one of the device’s key new features.
The 4G network is being launched in Britain in stages over the next 12 months. It promises internet speeds that are more than twice as fast as the current 3G network, allowing customers to download films and music as if they were using broadband at home.
Customers with Orange and T-Mobile — part of Everything Everywhere (EE) — will have access to 4G services before the end of the year via the iPhone 5. Customers with 3 will have access to 4G through the new iPhone, but not until 2013.
No other provider will be able to offer 4G with the new iPhone — even after they launch their own 4G services next year — due to the radio frequency used by the handset to receive and transmit 4G signals.
However, analysts warn that millions of Vodafone and O2 customers may think they will be able to use 4G services on the iPhone. Kate Murphy at moneysupermarket.com, the comparison site, said: “Consumers must be aware that not all networks are able to support the 4G capability of the iPhone 5 handset.”
When will 4G be available?
EE says it will offer 4G services in 16 cities by Christmas. These are London, Edinburgh, Cardiff, Birmingham, Bristol, Belfast, Glasgow, Manchester, Hull, Leeds, Liverpool, Derby, Nottingham, Newcastle, Sheffield and Southampton.
Other providers, such as Vodafone and O2, will have to wait. This is because Ofcom, the regulator, has allowed EE to launch its service before its rivals. The 4G auction for other providers will take place before the end of the year.
How do I access 4G if I am with Orange or T-mobile?
Customers will be able to cancel their existing contract and transfer to a new deal with EE. If they go for an equivalent or more expensive tariff there will be no cancellation charge. However, it is likely you will have to lock in for another 24 months. Details of the EE tariffs are yet to be released.
Why can’t I get 4G with O2 or Vodafone?
The iPhone 5 has been designed to receive 4G at a frequency of 1,800Mhz only. This frequency is owned by Orange and T-Mobile.
Other providers have some access to it because European Union competition rules required EE to sell part of it to rivals when T-Mobile and Orange merged to form the new company.
The majority of this was sold to 3. Vodafone and O2 have too small a portion to make it worthwhile offering it to their customers.
O2 said: “As we have so little of that spectrum, it would not have much of an impact on customers’ experiences.” Vodafone said: “The current version of the iPhone will not operate on our 4G network.”
New 4G frequencies will be auctioned later this year, but while 4G-capable phones such as the Samsung Galaxy S3 and the new Nokia Lumia 900 will use these frequencies, the iPhone 5 will not. Later versions of the iPhone are expected to offer 4G through more frequencies. Apple declined to comment.
Can I switch providers?
If you have signed up to a Vodafone or O2 contract, but want to switch, you can do so within seven days of receiving your new handset, without having to pay a cancellation fee. Otherwise you will have to buy out your contract.
What about 3?
This network gained the lion’s share of the 1,800Mhz frequency that was divested by EE. However, EE does not have to release this frequency until September 2013. It means 3 customers may have to wait until then to access 4G on their iPhones.
What are the best deals?
The cheapest tariffs are with O2, 3 and Vodafone, according to Moneysupermarket.
The cheapest deal costs £26 a month for 24 months with O2. You get unlimited calls and texts and 1GB of data downloads a month. There is also a one off charge of £249 for the handset.
The cheapest deal allowing 4G this year is from Orange, costing £36 a month. It’s for 24 months and has a one-off fee of £109.
Case study: No signal
Carly Parsons, 25, a trainee solicitor, is disappointed she will not be able to access the 4G network on the iPhone 5 with O2, and may switch to Orange or T-Mobile.
She said: “It was not clear to me that even after O2 launches its 4G service next year, iPhone 5 customers would not have access.” Parsons is pictured with her boyfriend Stephen Kilshaw, 25. They live in Ladbroke Grove, west London.
Last edited:
Finally, someone who can draw a line under the whole argument! Who won, and what was the score?
Power Player
Bionic Poster
Don't discount your opinion, but the benchmarks say otherwise.
Cup8489
G.O.A.T.
hate to bug you, but can you link me to a few examples of that? I'm seriously considering both phones (Sprint user). I'm leaning towards the GS3 but i want to be sure about which phone I'm going to get.
Don't want to sound like I'm putting the boot in, as I like Apple and its stuff, but it is currently topical.....
'Apple Maps fail to obscure sensitive military locations': http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/web/apple-maps-reveals-high-security-spots-google-maps-adds-the-right-detail-1100729
Just goes to show how little development / care has gone into their maps. But I guess we knew that already.
Meanwhile, in other news, sales of the iPhone 5 in Helmand Province have increased 300 hundred fold....
'Apple Maps fail to obscure sensitive military locations': http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/web/apple-maps-reveals-high-security-spots-google-maps-adds-the-right-detail-1100729
Just goes to show how little development / care has gone into their maps. But I guess we knew that already.
Meanwhile, in other news, sales of the iPhone 5 in Helmand Province have increased 300 hundred fold....
Last edited:
DRII
G.O.A.T.
You sure you want to stick with Sprint?
Which ever network can have a greater effect on a phone than the phone itself...
mikeler
Moderator
My phone beat his.
JoelDali
Talk Tennis Guru
My gf had the S3 and I don't know how anyone can pick that up and feel like its a solid well made phone. Hers blacked out and bricked in the 3rd week and she took it back for replacement. I was glad when she got it so I could see what the hype was about since I had JUST switched to iPhone after using blackberries since 1999.
I'm not loyal to any phone. If the S3 had blown my iPhone 4S away I would have bought one. But the UI and plastic feel and lack of good camera filter apps convinced me I made the right choice then.
The iPhone 5 is such a better phone based on my time with the S3. It's just a better experience overall, UI and ergo wise. No comparison. Yes it's way over priced and Apple sucks. But it's just an awesome device.
But who cares. I sure as hell don't. Go buy that Chinese knock off.
I'm not loyal to any phone. If the S3 had blown my iPhone 4S away I would have bought one. But the UI and plastic feel and lack of good camera filter apps convinced me I made the right choice then.
The iPhone 5 is such a better phone based on my time with the S3. It's just a better experience overall, UI and ergo wise. No comparison. Yes it's way over priced and Apple sucks. But it's just an awesome device.
But who cares. I sure as hell don't. Go buy that Chinese knock off.
Power Player
Bionic Poster
They have been posted multiple times in this thread. Just go look. No one has really had anything to say about them interestingly enough.
Id leave sprint asap. Their unlimited data is only because their coverage is so bad. If you can leave for free do it.
Good podcast about the Apple Maps issue.
I was thought mikeler was joking with his comments but they had problems with the search results trying to find Piccadilly Circus from central London.
Basically they correctly identify that the greatest damage will be to customer trust.
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/111112/whats-on-this-weeks-pc-pro-podcast
I was thought mikeler was joking with his comments but they had problems with the search results trying to find Piccadilly Circus from central London.
Basically they correctly identify that the greatest damage will be to customer trust.
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/111112/whats-on-this-weeks-pc-pro-podcast
Last edited:
Ico
Hall of Fame
I have the iPhone 5, as do several of my friends, and I can assure you no one cares about the Maps issue. In fact, most are just thrilled to have turn by turn navigation baked into the OS. RIP GPS market. The tech sphere makes mountains out of molehills, but the fact remains that Apple is crushing the competition while keeping innovation to a minimum. That is the real disappointment.
DRII
G.O.A.T.
Android is the most popular mobile platform, FYI...
Your underlined words are explained by your "most are just thrilled" phrase and what it represents. If you and your friends, who are Apple consumers, are thrilled to finally have something thats been on the market for years on other phones
, well Apple has little incentive to further innovate. That is after essentially creating the smart phone market in the first place...
DRII
G.O.A.T.
My gf had the S3 and I don't know how anyone can pick that up and feel like its a solid well made phone. Hers blacked out and bricked in the 3rd week and she took it back for replacement. I was glad when she got it so I could see what the hype was about since I had JUST switched to iPhone after using blackberries since 1999.
I'm not loyal to any phone. If the S3 had blown my iPhone 4S away I would have bought one. But the UI and plastic feel and lack of good camera filter apps convinced me I made the right choice then.
The iPhone 5 is such a better phone based on my time with the S3. It's just a better experience overall, UI and ergo wise. No comparison. Yes it's way over priced and Apple sucks. But it's just an awesome device.
But who cares. I sure as hell don't. Go buy that Chinese knock off.
I see you changed your screen image. If that wasn't a pic of your gf, I doubt you have one; or she better not know about it, because then you definitely wouldn't have one anymore...
Rozroz
G.O.A.T.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
many more frowns than smiles for new Iphone 5. Winner prize goes to Galaxy S 3.
http://cnettv.cnet.com/iphone-5-record-sales-record-frowns/9742-1_53-50132092.html?ttag=fbwl
http://cnettv.cnet.com/iphone-5-record-sales-record-frowns/9742-1_53-50132092.html?ttag=fbwl
DRII
G.O.A.T.
Exactly...
thats why I said the new 5 looks cheaper and less substantial than the 4! All aluminum was not a good choice, particularly when painted black (looks and feels much more 'plasticy' than stainless steel)...
I'm glad others have said this, including even an Apple brown-nosing sight, shows I was not just trolling as some have said.
^ But you're not remotely objective either, and see the comparison in extremes when its nothing of the sort. To read your posts, you'd think the iPhone5 was the worst thing ever invented and the S3 the best thing ever invented, when the reality is nothing of the sort.
Last edited:
JoelDali
Talk Tennis Guru
Power Player
Bionic Poster
Lol..look how angry the droider gets over a cell phone. My god. I think it is the lack of OS updates that frustrate him.
People still dont grasp how much faster the new iphone is compared to the s3. That is really the key to a great cell phone. Speed and efficiency. The iphone 5 has won all the benchmarks in that aspect and that is why people love it so much.
People still dont grasp how much faster the new iphone is compared to the s3. That is really the key to a great cell phone. Speed and efficiency. The iphone 5 has won all the benchmarks in that aspect and that is why people love it so much.
Feña14
G.O.A.T.
Do you really notice it all that much though?
On the side by side tests i've seen, apps open up a second or two quicker on the new iPhone. For me, that would be nice to have, but nowhere near as important as the operating system.
I use a brand new Windows machine at work and it's very quick, i'd take my 6 year old, slower MacBook over it anyday though! Same for the phone, it's all about the OS personally.
Rozroz
G.O.A.T.
is this meant at ME???? wtf?
DRII
G.O.A.T.
Samsung Suxxxxx. Don't cry. It's gonna be ok.
I've never owned a Samsung phone, so you're not hurting me any.
However, Samsung must not be that bad, until recently they were Apple's biggest supplier!
I know they make the best flat screens hands down...
DRII
G.O.A.T.
Do you really notice it all that much though?
On the side by side tests i've seen, apps open up a second or two quicker on the new iPhone. For me, that would be nice to have, but nowhere near as important as the operating system.
I use a brand new Windows machine at work and it's very quick, i'd take my 6 year old, slower MacBook over it anyday though! Same for the phone, it's all about the OS personally.
Again, exactly!
and Amen...
Not to mention a scratch prone, cheaper feeling exterior...
Power Player
Bionic Poster
Do you really notice it all that much though?
On the side by side tests i've seen, apps open up a second or two quicker on the new iPhone. For me, that would be nice to have, but nowhere near as important as the operating system.
I use a brand new Windows machine at work and it's very quick, i'd take my 6 year old, slower MacBook over it anyday though! Same for the phone, it's all about the OS personally.
Without a doubt. It is a huge difference. My droids have always had serious choppiness after a few months of use, and I do all the things you are supposed to do (clear both caches, delete unused apps, clear text messages..etc). I havent seen any tests that show anything besides the benchmarks that have been posted 3 times in here. They clearly show that the iphone beats every other phone currently in each test.
I also agree that it is all about the OS as well. I think apple caters to more creative people who like to create art or music on their devices. As we know the only os that works for this is iOS. The internal latency on droids makes it almost impossible to do these things on. In fact his has already been discussed, but the lag time is over 100ms! That is a ton. Many artists are now making their albums on ipads and iphones now, and I believe that will be the future since you can sketch an idea you have anytime it pops into your head.
Here is an example of an app only on iphone and only possible on iOS ( I do not think you have to be a music maker to appreciate how simply amazing this $5 app is...just watch ) :
http://discchord.com/blog/2012/9/10/beepstreets-impaktor-released.html
So people are saying Apple is behind..no it is not behind. It is ahead on things that creative types find valuable. If you are not that type of person then it does not apply, but if you are, there is no other mobile OS that can do these things, including Windows 8.
An app is coming for iOS that will link together all the music apps so you will be able to basically have a studio in your pad or phone with all the apps you own. That is simply amazing. A quote from them with the link to the article on the app :
"Google has made some steps in the right direction with a lower latency audio implementation in Android 4.1, but the only devices supporting that in a decent way have almost no market-share. When we’re talking about iOS and music we’re mainly talking about the iPad – a tablet – and Android tablets make up less than 3% of all Android devices.
Until that changes and Google finds a way to stop fragmentation on Android in a way that gives developers a quasi-standard device specification to develop for, without having to test on 40+ Android devices, the music app market on Android won’t be able to compete with the music app market on iOS.
Windows 8 has a long road ahead before it can prove that it’s a viable market for developers. That’s all I can say about it since I’m not a fan of speculation."
http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2...iobus-how-will-it-change-mobile-music-making/
so once again, the iphone is by far the fastest phone available. It is not even close. So to those of us who care about those things, it is the clear choice. the creative capabilities of the device are far superior to any other option, and I speak from experience.
kalyan4fedever
Legend
Going for Note 2. Awesome at its best
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOX3HYDwTCY&feature=em-uploademail-new
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOX3HYDwTCY&feature=em-uploademail-new
mikeler
Moderator
I have not delved into the 3D stuff but I do use the turn by turn directions on the Tom Tom app which is cool. Google Maps is significantly better at finding places around you. For instance, type in one or two places about 10 miles from where you work and compare the two. I'd be curious if Apple goes 2/2.
