So has Federer secured 300 weeks now??

-RF-

Hall of Fame
I thought he had due to his 0 pointer earlier on, then I read a thread yesterday where people said he actually had to make it to the QF's..... tell me, does he need to beat wawrinka to get 300 or has he already secured it (even if djok wins)??
 
I thought he had due to his 0 pointer earlier on, then I read a thread yesterday where people said he actually had to make it to the QF's..... tell me, does he need to beat wawrinka to get 300 or has he already secured it (even if djok wins)??

He still needs to beat Wawrinka, apparently. Either way, 299/300, what difference does it make? It's just 1 week.
 

The Bawss

Banned
Federer's career is reduced to being Spadea-like at best if he doesn't make 300 weeks. It's 300 or the retirement speech.
 

Gonzo_style

Hall of Fame
Even if he lost to Wawrinka, he can still get 300 weeks in Basel (Djokovic won't play there/will lose 150 points) so don't worry "Fed army"....
 

cork_screw

Hall of Fame
Haha, if fed gets to 300 weeks, the next monumental task will obviously be 1000 career wins. He's at around 860 now. Now I know he needs 1000 career wins.

This is how amazing Fed has become. His stats are becoming video game like. It's like playing Tony Hawk and trying to get a perfect run with all the grabs and tricks.
 

RAFA2005RG

Banned
I hope Federer is stuck on 299 weeks so he is forced to play next year so Rafa can increase the slam h2h from 8-2 to 10-2.
 

adil1972

Hall of Fame
initially i hated nadal, when he won 2008 Wimbledon i hoped that he will be caught taking drugs but now i have respect for nadal. what if nadal, federer, djokovic and murray are all on drugs like but atp excuses them of taking drugs like agassi
 
initially i hated nadal, when he won 2008 Wimbledon i hoped that he will be caught taking drugs but now i have respect for nadal. what if nadal, federer, djokovic and murray are all on drugs like but atp excuses them of taking drugs like agassi

Agassi didn't take performance-enhancing drugs. It didn't concern the ATP in any way.
 

sbengte

G.O.A.T.
Even if he lost to Wawrinka, he can still get 300 weeks in Basel (Djokovic won't play there/will lose 150 points) so don't worry "Fed army"....

Is that right ? Assuming Djoko wins Shanghai and Fed loses to Wawa, how many points does Fed need to defend in Basel to get back to #1 ?
 

Feather

Legend
Is that right ? Assuming Djoko wins Shanghai and Fed loses to Wawa, how many points does Fed need to defend in Basel to get back to #1 ?

Roger has won Basel last year. So he won't gain any points there even if he wins the tournament this year
 

sbengte

G.O.A.T.
Roger has won Basel last year. So he won't gain any points there even if he wins the tournament this year

I know. Though Fed won't gain any points in Basel, I am sure he can't get to no.1 if he loses his first match there. What is the minimum round he needs to make in Basel if he needs to get #1 back ? Also is it official that Djoko won't play Basel ?
 
I know. Though Fed won't gain any points in Basel, I am sure he can't get to no.1 if he loses his first match there. What is the minimum round he needs to make in Basel if he needs to get #1 back ? Also is it official that Djoko won't play Basel ?

Here's how the rankings system works. It's a 1-year rolling system where everything you've done in the past 12 months counts. Let's say you won Wimbledon in 2011 and are holding 12000 points before Wimbledon 2012. 2000 of those 12000 points are from winning the 2011 Wimbledon. If you only make the Finals of Wimbledon in 2012, you gain 1200 points (for making the Final) but the 2000 points from the previous year's Wimbledon drop off. So, effectively, you lose 800 points. Your new ranking points will be 11200. So Federer will not gain any points even if he wins Basel. But he could go past Djokovic because Djokovic will lose his SF points from last year's Basel and won't gain any if he doesn't play this year's Basel.
 

MG1

Professional
Here's how the rankings system works. It's a 1-year rolling system where everything you've done in the past 12 months counts. Let's say you won Wimbledon in 2011 and are holding 12000 points before Wimbledon 2012. 2000 of those 12000 points are from winning the 2011 Wimbledon. If you only make the Finals of Wimbledon in 2012, you gain 1200 points (for making the Final) but the 2000 points from the previous year's Wimbledon drop off. So, effectively, you lose 800 points. Your new ranking points will be 11200. So Federer will not gain any points even if he wins Basel. But he could go past Djokovic because Djokovic will lose his SF points from last year's Basel and won't gain any if he doesn't play this year's Basel.


Most people here know this ..don't repeat it again!
 
I know. Though Fed won't gain any points in Basel, I am sure he can't get to no.1 if he loses his first match there. What is the minimum round he needs to make in Basel if he needs to get #1 back ? Also is it official that Djoko won't play Basel ?

Anyway, to answer your question, if Federer were to lose to Wawrinka, and Djokovic were to win Shanghai, Federer would need to win Basel to get to #1 again, assuming Djokovic doesn't play Basel.
 

adil1972

Hall of Fame
is tennis the only sport with 3 bodies, ATP, WTA and ITF...

how come olympics is governed by ITF and not ATP and WTA
 

adil1972

Hall of Fame
more over, ITF follows ATP and WTA ranking in grand slams

and ATP and WTA award point for matches won in ITF grand slams
 

RAFA2005RG

Banned
I hope Nadal is banned from tennis after it is discovered that he was doping ever since 2005.

I'm happy to say, your post indicates that Rafa is going to be on your mind forever, because you'll always wish he was doping. You are going to be disappointed for the rest of your life, all because of Rafa.
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sbengte

G.O.A.T.
I understand how the ranking system works, I just wanted to know the exact points calculation for the scenario being discussed. For instance, can Fed afford to not win Basel (i.e drop a few points there) and still get back #1 from Djoker who will drop all his Basel points. I guess I would get my answer if I looked up how much the point differential between these two would be if Fed loses to Wawa and Djoker wins Shanghai.

Anyway, to answer your question, if Federer were to lose to Wawrinka, and Djokovic were to win Shanghai, Federer would need to win Basel to get to #1 again, assuming Djokovic doesn't play Basel.

Thanks, that answers my question.
 
I understand how the ranking system works, I just wanted to know the exact points calculation for the scenario being discussed. For instance, can Fed afford to not win Basel (i.e drop a few points there) and still get back #1 from Djoker who will drop all his Basel points. I guess I would get my answer if I looked up how much the point differential between these two would be if Fed loses to Wawa and Djoker wins Shanghai.



Thanks, that answers my question.

Yeah, he can't afford to lose any points. Because the difference between the title and the final is 200 points (title - 500 points, final - 300 points), which is more than what Djokovic will drop if he doesn't play (180).
 

SoBad

G.O.A.T.
Yeah, once they complete the blood tests, it's gonna be more like top 100 ATP for two weeks and all the money will be taken away.
 

Evan77

Banned
I hate Nadal. this overrated moron Nadal. I hope like a Rosol low player kicks Nadal again.

we can see Nadal's bump to player arrogant gamesmanship and ugly protest. and excuse injury again. arrogant sore loser.







sucks nadal
no problem, I hate everyone, myself included :). I think I'm going to get banned again. it's too bad I feel like a major b!tch, just can't help it.
 
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