Federer vs Djokovic

nolefam_2024

G.O.A.T.
Djokovic has slam wins over Federer in
2008 2010 2011 2012 2014 2015 2016 2019

Federer has slam wins over Djokovic in
2007 2008 2009 2011 2012

The slam H2H was like this.

Fed vs Nole

1-0
2-0
2-1
3-1
4-1
4-2
4-3
5-3
5-4
5-5
6-5
6-6
6-7
6-8
6-9
6-10
6-11


Djokovic wasn't waiting for Federer to decline to start his own reign. Back in 2008 Djokovic had already won 1. From 2008 till 2010 the H2H was just 2-2. Djokovic had his own issues which is why he lost to nobodies. Once he figured them out then from 2011 to 2012 Djokovic went 3-2 vs fed.

Before 2008 and after 2012 H2H is due to age. Maybe we can count till 2016 but definitely not post 2016 2 wins which was when fed was very old.
 

nolefam_2024

G.O.A.T.
Between 2008 and 2012 Djokovic went 6-5 vs Federer. This is when Federer was just 27 to 30/31.

There is no age excuse. Djokovic is his equal and a bit superior.

The wins for Djokovic came on hc and clay while for Federer came at hc clay and grass.
 

TearTheRoofOff

G.O.A.T.
They are close to even players. Djokovic just has better work ethic to remain fit in 30s.

Peak level they are dead even.
Well I take Fed's peak level as the highest I've seen at least across the board on aggregate (though agree it's close enough), and I think the work ethic and fitness thing is basically just an assumption. People seem to think stretching turns you into a human stress ball.
 

thrust

Legend
They are close to even players. Djokovic just has better work ethic to remain fit in 30s.

Peak level they are dead even.
Very close to even, however, I do think Federer was mostly in great physical shape into his late thirties, but after playing so much tennis especially against Rafa, Novak and Murray, his body gave out.
 

Pheasant

Legend
They are close to even players. Djokovic just has better work ethic to remain fit in 30s.

Peak level they are dead even.
That's a fair assessment. Fed has the clear advantage on fast hard courts and grass while Djoker has the clear advantage on slow-to-medium hard courts and clay. Djoker has a longer peak than Fed, which allowed him to shatter his records.
 
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